A Dogs Purpose under fire after TMZ publishes leaked video of German shepherd

[Ray_of_hope]

I am not going to see that movie. That video made me sick! I have been an animal rights activist since childhood. I will not tolerate animals used for entertainment and greed. Well said, gregjrichards.

 

[gregjrichards]

If the dog was "in danger" of being traumatized, then he was in danger.

Personally, I'd like to see some charges laid re: cruelty to animals.

It doesn't look as if this issue will be swept under the carpet.

In addition to everyone at that scene, it is time to shine the spotlight on this so-called "trainer". Any trainer I have met absolutely loves animals and would never put one through this cruelty.

MOO

The animal trainer that threw this poor dog in the water should definitely be charged and the production company heavily fined. It would be great if the director etc could be charged too for their part in this. I still don't understand why the movie hasn't been scrapped yet.

 

[Ray_of_hope]

And thank you to Popsicle for getting the info out there. :loveyou:

 

[gregjrichards]

If the dog was "in danger" of being traumatized, then he was in danger.

Personally, I'd like to see some charges laid re: cruelty to animals.

It doesn't look as if this issue will be swept under the carpet.

In addition to everyone at that scene, it is time to shine the spotlight on this so-called "trainer". Any trainer I have met absolutely loves animals and would never put one through this cruelty.

MOO

I don't know what this "animal trainer" was thinking he should have been putting the welfare of the dog first. If a member of production says "I guess you will have to throw him in" you should refuse point blank to do it regardless of production costs and pressure. I'm glad the guy has been fired and I hope he never works with animals ever again.

 

[mrseeker]

I think if they had worked with the dog over days, trying to make it fun, he might have hopped in. If he doesn't want to do it, he should not be made to. Find a dog that thinks its fun. Or use technology to make the scene. I guess the owner wanted the paycheck so bad, he didn't mind torturing his dog.

 

[cuffem]

With all the technology that is used in film making they could not use some kind of CGI for this scene?

 

[zencompass]

Hi Cuffem,

Great point (as usual ! )

 

[zencompass]

I think if they had worked with the dog over days, trying to make it fun, he might have hopped in. If he doesn't want to do it, he should not be made to. Find a dog that thinks its fun. Or use technology to make the scene. I guess the owner wanted the paycheck so bad, he didn't mind torturing his dog.

Great ideas mrseeker!

 

[JohnPaul]

I started to watch the video, but I just can't. There is nothing more innocent than children and animals.

that is what gets me.....

child actors are very often forced to do things on set that they do not want to do, so whats the difference?.....why is there no public shaming of movie casts when a child is involved as opposed to an animal?

child actor does not want to do/refuses to do a scene....they are forced/coaxed into doing it, everything is fine,

dog does not want to do/refuses to do a scene....they are forced/coaxed into doing it, and its called abuse,

I am an animal lover and a dog lover, i never intended on seeing this film, however these clips would never discourage me from doing so,

the dogs owner signed a contract and is being payed, just like the parents of a child signed a contract and are being payed,

although the dog does not understand why he is there (much like a child actor may not), the guardian (in either case) has signed a contract for the animal/child to perform, and perform they must one way or another,

time is money, and they can't wait around all day waiting for a child or an animal to "behave"....they could be losing hundreds of thousands of dollars per hour....its business people,

we are only seeing very short video clips here and have no idea what happened previous or after these clips and have no right to judge these people based on a 30 second clip,

before this scene was shot maybe the dogs guardian gave verbal permission to the handler/set instructors to get his dog to perform and to get his dog into the water one way or another, and the handler was just doing his job.....it is up to the dogs guardian to control how his dog is handled,

this thread reminds me of the "teacher grabbing the microphone away from child" thread.....don't judge on a 20 or 30 second clip when you have no clue what took place previously



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[jjenny]

that is what gets me.....

child actors are very often forced to do things on set that they do not want to do, so whats the difference?.....why is there no public shaming of movie casts when a child is involved as opposed to an animal?

child actor does not want to do/refuses to do a scene....they are forced/coaxed into doing it, everything is fine,

dog does not want to do/refuses to do a scene....they are forced/coaxed into doing it, and its called abuse,

I am an animal lover and a dog lover, i never intended on seeing this film, however these clips would never discourage me from doing so,

the dogs owner signed a contract and is being payed, just like the parents of a child signed a contract and are being payed,

although the dog does not understand why he is there (much like a child actor may not), the guardian (in either case) has signed a contract for the animal/child to perform, and perform they must one way or another,

time is money, and they can't wait around all day waiting for a child or an animal to "behave"....they could be losing hundreds of thousands of dollars per hour....its business people,

we are only seeing very short video clips here and have no idea what happened previous or after these clips and have no right to judge these people based on a 30 second clip,

before this scene was shot maybe the dogs guardian gave verbal permission to the handler/set instructors to get his dog to perform and to get his dog into the water one way or another, and the handler was just doing his job.....it is up to the dogs guardian to control how his dog is handled,

this thread reminds me of the "teacher grabbing the microphone away from child" thread.....don't judge on a 20 or 30 second clip when you have no clue what took place previously



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Seriously? Are you saying if they were forcing a kid to jump into a water, and the kid clearly didn't want to, and then this kid went under, people wouldn't get upset?

 

[ZoriahNZ]

that is what gets me.....

child actors are very often forced to do things on set that they do not want to do, so whats the difference?.....why is there no public shaming of movie casts when a child is involved as opposed to an animal?

child actor does not want to do/refuses to do a scene....they are forced/coaxed into doing it, everything is fine,

dog does not want to do/refuses to do a scene....they are forced/coaxed into doing it, and its called abuse,

Why does this have to be a zero sum argument? I am sure there are people reading this thread and out in the wider world who believe that both child and animal abuse in entertainment (or other fields) is abhorrent and criminal. It's not an either/or proposition. Why can't people be upset for a poor animal being terrorized without being accused of not caring enough about the mistreatment of human beings as well. There is no evidence to support your claims, unless you would kindly supply them. You might also want to look up relative privation fallacies.

 

[kanzz]

Why does this have to be a zero sum argument? I am sure there are people reading this thread and out in the wider world who believe that both child and animal abuse in entertainment (or other fields) is abhorrent and criminal. It's not an either/or proposition. Why can't people be upset for a poor animal being terrorized without being accused of not caring enough about the mistreatment of human beings as well. There is no evidence to support your claims, unless you would kindly supply them. You might also want to look up relative privation fallacies.

ZoriahNZ, my like-minded friend! Yes - this is most definitely a fallacy of relative privation. Exactly!

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

A Dog's Purpose takes $18m at the U.S. box office... despite boycott attempts by animal rights protesters

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...gs-Purpose-With-26-Million.html#ixzz4XFYu7azd

 

[JohnPaul]

A Dog's Purpose takes $18m at the U.S. box office... despite boycott attempts by animal rights protesters

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...gs-Purpose-With-26-Million.html#ixzz4XFYu7azd

glad to hear it,

even though i have no interest in seeing it

 

[JusticeWillBeServed]

'Dog's Purpose' video mischaracterized events on set, investigation finds

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/04/entertainment/a-dogs-purpose-disturbing-video-investigation/index.html

A video appearing to show a dog in distress during filming of the movie "A Dog's Purpose" was "deliberately edited for the purpose of misleading the public and stoking public outrage," according to an independent, third-party investigation.

American Humane, an organization tasked with ensuring safety of animal actors on set, said the investigation's findings "confirm that no animals were harmed in those scenes and numerous preventative safety measures were in place."

The investigation found the video "mischaracterized the events on set" and notes, "A full spectrum of preparation and safety measures were in place."

But the group does acknowledge handling of the dog when it appeared unwilling to enter pool "should have been gentler and signs of stress recognized earlier."

The statement from Amblin and Universal said that on the day of the shoot, the dog actor named Hercules "did not want to perform the stunt portrayed on the tape so the Amblin production team did not proceed with filming that shot."

American Humane said the investigation found the leaked video failed to show what happened after a second scene in which the dog slips underwater. The dog was "placed in a warming tent and received an examination that found no signs of stress," American Humane said.

 

[cuffem]

'Dog's Purpose' video mischaracterized events on set, investigation finds

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/04/entertainment/a-dogs-purpose-disturbing-video-investigation/index.html

So maybe the dog was just "acting" frightened and stressed.

 

[gregjrichards]

So maybe the dog was just "acting" frightened and stressed.

Exactly I don't believe this report one bit. The dog doesn't know he is acting in a movie as far as it is concerned it is being thrown into treacherous water and is in danger of drowning. I will not see this movie or knowingly see other movies that have caused distress to animals during production.

 

[fred&edna]

IF acting then... Hercules should receive an Academy Award. (I call BS!)

 

[JohnPaul]

'Dog's Purpose' video mischaracterized events on set, investigation finds

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/04/entertainment/a-dogs-purpose-disturbing-video-investigation/index.html

"American Humane, an organization tasked with ensuring safety of animal actors on set, said the investigation's findings "confirm that no animals were harmed in those scenes and numerous preventative safety measures were in place."

hhhmmm.....very interesting.....and my own quote on Jan 23rd.....

we are only seeing very short video clips here and have no idea what happened previous or after these clips and have no right to judge these people based on a 30 second clip......

I am an animal lover and a dog lover, i never intended on seeing this film, however these clips would never discourage me from doing so

:::: Bows and walks off stage :::::



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[neesaki]

WARNING: VERY DISTURBING VIDEO

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals are calling for a boycott of the movie, saying in a tweet that they want to “send the message that dogs & other animals should be treated humanely, not as props.”

http://wtkr.com/2017/01/18/a-dogs-p...mz-publishes-leaked-video-of-german-shepherd/

This makes me so f'n angry and it tears my heart out. I don't like the h word but I really hate some people sometimes.

This is horrific, I say throw all those SOB's in the water and let them fight for their lives. And the movie needs to be shut down, the theaters should refuse to show it. That poor precious dog, how cruel. :tears: THIS is something worth protesting.