A Pre Meditated Murder? or Accidental?

Pre Meditated Murder Yes or No

  • I have always thought it was pre meditated.

    Votes: 297 36.0%
  • After reading the latest documents I now believe it was pre meditated.

    Votes: 266 32.2%
  • I "absolutely" believe it was not pre meditated.

    Votes: 54 6.5%
  • I am still sitting on the fence and am not sure.

    Votes: 209 25.3%

  • Total voters
    826
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  • #381
Thanks
I am still unclear on the "pre" part. Surely that refers to "some time prior". Can this be as you are carrying out an act, or say seconds before. Is a minute before acting any different? Certainly planning in March would be premeditation, but I don't buy that.

Maybe this will help you, from the FL statutes:

http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/jury_instructions/chapters/chapter7/p2c7s7.2.rtf

7.2 MURDER—FIRST DEGREE
§ 782.04(1)(a), Fla. Stat.

When there will be instructions on both premeditated and felony murder, the following explanatory paragraph should be read to the jury.
There are two ways in which a person may be convicted of first degree murder. One is known as premeditated murder and the other is known as felony murder.

To prove the crime of First Degree Premeditated Murder, the State must prove the following three elements beyond a reasonable doubt:

1. (Victim) is dead.

2. The death was caused by the criminal act of (defendant).

3. There was a premeditated killing of (victim).

Definitions.
An “act” includes a series of related actions arising from and performed pursuant to a single design or purpose.

“Killing with premeditation” is killing after consciously deciding to do so. The decision must be present in the mind at the time of the killing. The law does not fix the exact period of time that must pass between the formation of the premeditated intent to kill and the killing. The period of time must be long enough to allow reflection by the defendant. The premeditated intent to kill must be formed before the killing.

The question of premeditation is a question of fact to be determined by you from the evidence. It will be sufficient proof of premeditation if the circumstances of the killing and the conduct of the accused convince you beyond a reasonable doubt of the existence of premeditation at the time of the killing.
 
  • #382
Thank you Muzikman!
 
  • #383
Cross-posted on the computer forensics thread, but appropriate here as well, IMHO.

Muzikman uploaded KC's photobucket images to icons157.zip. I downloaded these last night and looked through the files today. There are several thousand images here, most of them "icons" with a few hundred pictures of Casey, Caylee, and friends scattered throughout. Most of the pictures have been posted on the web, and a few of the icons.

Executive Summary: Since many won't read my long-winded analysis, I will cut to the chase. Having analyzed KC's Photobucket uploads and the patterns of the uploads, I am convinced now more than ever that the searches for chloroform, household weapons, etc. in mid-March 2008 were meaningless and unconnected to the death of Caylee.

I looked at several things when examining this CD: Date / time files were uploaded, the content of the image or picture that was uploaded, the "theme" of the images, and whether or not "clustering" of images occurred (uploads of several pictures having the same theme at the same time).

Here is a summary of what I found along with some conclusions I drew:
1. Prior to June 16, KC almost always uploaded files before 8:30 AM, from 1:00 PM to 3:00 PM, and after 8:30 PM. While there are a very small handful of exceptions, the overall pattern is very clear.
I would conclude from the above that KC was on the computer when Caylee was asleep (evening) or napping. Nap time seems to be roughly 1 to 3 PM, based on computer activity.

2. Uploads after 6/16 clearly break the pattern established pre-6/16.

I would conclude that KC is no longer worrying about Caylee's sleep habits.

SNIP


JWG, excellent analysis! I have to wonder now if LE has looked at the PB file in this way.
 
  • #384
MuzikmanThank you. We none of us know yet, but several posible scenarios where Caylee's death resulted from something less than that descibed for Murder1 are strong possibilities.
 
  • #385
JWG, excellent analysis! I have to wonder now if LE has looked at the PB file in this way.

HERE, HERE!!
 
  • #386
Wow, JWG that is amazing.
 
  • #387
Okay, then what do you make of the computer searches of neck-breaking, shovels, chloroform, missing children, and the name ZF-G?????

12 minutes of searches in March. I would think it you were planning something this horrid it would be an indepth search. What is up with shovel...everyone knows what a shovel is. ZFG, was search by GA on the 16th of July according to his statement. I don't know what to make of it until someone puts the pieces of this puzzel together. IMO
 
  • #388
MuzikmanThank you. We none of us know yet, but several posible scenarios where Caylee's death resulted from something less than that descibed for Murder1 are strong possibilities.


While that may be true, her undeniable attempted cover-up of what actually happened, plus the duct tape (if true) will not look good to the jury. It could easily be enough to convince a jury of pre-meditation. IMO
 
  • #389
While that may be true, her undeniable attempted cover-up of what actually happened, plus the duct tape (if true) will not look good to the jury. It could easily be enough to convince a jury of pre-meditation. IMO
Yes, but I think it may well be possible to convince a jury because of her appalling behaviour before and after that it was "premeditated" even if it was not.

My personal emotional reaction is that I want to see her burn in hell, but I also want the judicial system to mete out justice.
 
  • #390
Cross-posted on the computer forensics thread, but appropriate here as well, IMHO.

Muzikman uploaded KC's photobucket images to icons157.zip. I downloaded these last night and looked through the files today. There are several thousand images here, most of them "icons" with a few hundred pictures of Casey, Caylee, and friends scattered throughout. Most of the pictures have been posted on the web, and a few of the icons.

Executive Summary: Since many won't read my long-winded analysis, I will cut to the chase. Having analyzed KC's Photobucket uploads and the patterns of the uploads, I am convinced now more than ever that the searches for chloroform, household weapons, etc. in mid-March 2008 were meaningless and unconnected to the death of Caylee.

I looked at several things when examining this CD: Date / time files were uploaded, the content of the image or picture that was uploaded, the "theme" of the images, and whether or not "clustering" of images occurred (uploads of several pictures having the same theme at the same time).

Here is a summary of what I found along with some conclusions I drew:
1. Prior to June 16, KC almost always uploaded files before 8:30 AM, from 1:00 PM to 3:00 PM, and after 8:30 PM. While there are a very small handful of exceptions, the overall pattern is very clear.
I would conclude from the above that KC was on the computer when Caylee was asleep (evening) or napping. Nap time seems to be roughly 1 to 3 PM, based on computer activity.

2. Uploads after 6/16 clearly break the pattern established pre-6/16.

I would conclude that KC is no longer worrying about Caylee's sleep habits.

3. KC uploads in "themes". Multiple themes are often uploaded in a single day, within a very short (minutes) period of time. A theme might be tattoos, love, boyfriends, gangstas, or oral sex.

I would conclude that KC has "internet ADD". She spends a very short period of time on one topic and then bounces into another. I think her twelve minutes of chloroform and household weapons searches fall into this category. It is almost like Homer Simpson talking philosophy and then stopping to pick up a penny he found on a sidewalk.

4. KC likes images of skulls, tatoos, suggestions of being a 🤬🤬🤬🤬 or 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬, and partying.

5. Many of the sayings or quotes collected by KC refer to relationships in either a serious or dark-humor manner.

6. By far the largest and most graphic collection of icons and quotes of a sexual nature were posted mid-2007. By comparison the images uploaded after January 2008 are pretty lame.

While these are not images of KC, I believe that these are the images the FBI was referring to when interviewing George.

7. The largest collection of skulls and other "dark images" also occurred in 2007.

8. The largest collection of party images occurred in 2007 and early January 2008.

9. KC clearly spent a substantial amount of time searching for and collecting the images.
Standing back and putting the chloroform searches into a better context than reasoned above in my earlier posts, I think KC was originally searching for an image similar to the "Win her over ... with chloroform" image, and this search took her to women's self-defense site, then to weapon's sites, then to a zombie poll...then after 12 minutes she got bored and "found a penny", moving on to something else.

Living her life 10 minutes at a time.


Great deduction about Casey downloading and doing most of her surfing while Caylee was napping. I think you are right.

I'd agree that the computer searches were meaningless except: Casey searched for chloroform and how to make it and Casey's car trunk air (where Caylee's dead body had been) was full of chloroform.
 
  • #391
Great deduction about Casey downloading and doing most of her surfing while Caylee was napping. I think you are right.

I'd agree that the computer searches were meaningless except: Casey searched for chloroform and how to make it and Casey's car trunk air (where Caylee's dead body had been) was full of chloroform.

But, the chloroform could have come from:

1. Chlorinated swimming pool water in the lungs reacting with decompositional fluids, if one accepts a drowning death.
2. Solvents used in the manufacture of pesticides, which may have been used by CA to kill flies and maggots in the trunk.
3. An ingredient in dry-cleaning solution that may have been used by CA in an attempt to clean the spot in the trunk.
4. An ingredient in a fumigant which may have been used by CA to kill flies and maggots in the trunk.
5. Any combination of two or more of the above.

Some have reported that the chloroform was some sort of "pure" form, implying that the detected volumes could not have come as a byproduct of any of the above. However, there is no released document that states this or even implies it, and furthermore, the FBI lab report does not state what the concentration level was, other than it was high.
 
  • #392
Cross-posted on the computer forensics thread, but appropriate here as well, IMHO.

Muzikman uploaded KC's photobucket images to icons157.zip. I downloaded these last night and looked through the files today. There are several thousand images here, most of them "icons" with a few hundred pictures of Casey, Caylee, and friends scattered throughout. Most of the pictures have been posted on the web, and a few of the icons.

Executive Summary: Since many won't read my long-winded analysis, I will cut to the chase. Having analyzed KC's Photobucket uploads and the patterns of the uploads, I am convinced now more than ever that the searches for chloroform, household weapons, etc. in mid-March 2008 were meaningless and unconnected to the death of Caylee.

I looked at several things when examining this CD: Date / time files were uploaded, the content of the image or picture that was uploaded, the "theme" of the images, and whether or not "clustering" of images occurred (uploads of several pictures having the same theme at the same time).

Here is a summary of what I found along with some conclusions I drew:
1. Prior to June 16, KC almost always uploaded files before 8:30 AM, from 1:00 PM to 3:00 PM, and after 8:30 PM. While there are a very small handful of exceptions, the overall pattern is very clear.
I would conclude from the above that KC was on the computer when Caylee was asleep (evening) or napping. Nap time seems to be roughly 1 to 3 PM, based on computer activity.

2. Uploads after 6/16 clearly break the pattern established pre-6/16.

I would conclude that KC is no longer worrying about Caylee's sleep habits.

3. KC uploads in "themes". Multiple themes are often uploaded in a single day, within a very short (minutes) period of time. A theme might be tattoos, love, boyfriends, gangstas, or oral sex.

I would conclude that KC has "internet ADD". She spends a very short period of time on one topic and then bounces into another. I think her twelve minutes of chloroform and household weapons searches fall into this category. It is almost like Homer Simpson talking philosophy and then stopping to pick up a penny he found on a sidewalk.


4. KC likes images of skulls, tatoos, suggestions of being a 🤬🤬🤬🤬 or 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬, and partying.

5. Many of the sayings or quotes collected by KC refer to relationships in either a serious or dark-humor manner.

6. By far the largest and most graphic collection of icons and quotes of a sexual nature were posted mid-2007. By comparison the images uploaded after January 2008 are pretty lame.

While these are not images of KC, I believe that these are the images the FBI was referring to when interviewing George.

7. The largest collection of skulls and other "dark images" also occurred in 2007.

8. The largest collection of party images occurred in 2007 and early January 2008.

9. KC clearly spent a substantial amount of time searching for and collecting the images.
Standing back and putting the chloroform searches into a better context than reasoned above in my earlier posts, I think KC was originally searching for an image similar to the "Win her over ... with chloroform" image, and this search took her to women's self-defense site, then to weapon's sites, then to a zombie poll...then after 12 minutes she got bored and "found a penny", moving on to something else.

Living her life 10 minutes at a time.

Very nice. A Royal :gold_crown: to you for the time and stick-to-itness to go through that huge file and post your findings.

It does appear that those searches do not mean much from back in March. I also agree that it will be her behavior from the time that Caylee was last seen that will do her in.
 
  • #393
But, the chloroform could have come from:

1. Chlorinated swimming pool water in the lungs reacting with decompositional fluids, if one accepts a drowning death.
2. Solvents used in the manufacture of pesticides, which may have been used by CA to kill flies and maggots in the trunk.
3. An ingredient in dry-cleaning solution that may have been used by CA in an attempt to clean the spot in the trunk.
4. An ingredient in a fumigant which may have been used by CA to kill flies and maggots in the trunk.
5. Any combination of two or more of the above.

Some have reported that the chloroform was some sort of "pure" form, implying that the detected volumes could not have come as a byproduct of any of the above. However, there is no released document that states this or even implies it, and furthermore, the FBI lab report does not state what the concentration level was, other than it was high.

Regarding the forensics report. On the complete file it falls on page 13 and 14. This is not the air sample testing, this is testing done on physical items. Page 13 is a list of the items tested. Page 14 clearly states of the 6 items tested, 4 of these had residue of chloroform on them, the other 2 had residues consistent with chloroform on them, "No additional chemicals (e.g. acetone or alcohols) were identified within the examined specimens."
e.g means 'for example'. It doesn't mean the only chemicals tested for was chloroform, acetone, and alcohols.
1. No chlorine was found.
2. No other chemical solvents consistent with pesticides other than chloroform was found.
3. No other chemicals consistent with dry-cleaning solution other than chloroform was found.
4. No other chemicals consistent with a fumigant to kill flies and maggots was found.
5. No other chemicals consistant with two or more of the above was found.

This is where at least some people are getting the 'pure chloroform' idea from. There is not a pesticide or dry cleaner or fumigant or chlorine I have ever heard of that completely dissapates leaving nothing, and I mean nothing, behind but chloroform. Most of these common items don't even contain chloroform.
Air testing, on pages 20-34 say this.
The air from the carpet sample sent contained many compounds, primarily chloroform. The control carpet sample contained chloroform, but only in trace amounts.
It talks about "the large concentration of chloroform (not a common ingredient in commercial products) and further in the report states "an unusually large concentration of chloroform-far greater than what is typically seen in human decomposition."

The FBI lab and the Body Farm both found enough chloroform through their testing to report it, and the Body Farm even goes so far to call it 'an unusually large concentration', so I think it is relevant.
Lanie
 
  • #394
Regarding the forensics report. On the complete file it falls on page 13 and 14. This is not the air sample testing, this is testing done on physical items. Page 13 is a list of the items tested. Page 14 clearly states of the 6 items tested, 4 of these had residue of chloroform on them, the other 2 had residues consistent with chloroform on them, "No additional chemicals (e.g. acetone or alcohols) were identified within the examined specimens."
e.g means 'for example'. It doesn't mean the only chemicals tested for was chloroform, acetone, and alcohols.
1. No chlorine was found.
2. No other chemical solvents consistent with pesticides other than chloroform was found.
3. No other chemicals consistent with dry-cleaning solution other than chloroform was found.
4. No other chemicals consistent with a fumigant to kill flies and maggots was found.
5. No other chemicals consistant with two or more of the above was found.

This is where at least some people are getting the 'pure chloroform' idea from. There is not a pesticide or dry cleaner or fumigant or chlorine I have ever heard of that completely dissapates leaving nothing, and I mean nothing, behind but chloroform. Most of these common items don't even contain chloroform.
Air testing, on pages 20-34 say this.
The air from the carpet sample sent contained many compounds, primarily chloroform. The control carpet sample contained chloroform, but only in trace amounts.
It talks about "the large concentration of chloroform (not a common ingredient in commercial products) and further in the report states "an unusually large concentration of chloroform-far greater than what is typically seen in human decomposition."

The FBI lab and the Body Farm both found enough chloroform through their testing to report it, and the Body Farm even goes so far to call it 'an unusually large concentration', so I think it is relevant.
Lanie
Just some possibilities.
A chlorine bleach cleaner tried first, then some solvent cleaner might well interact and produce Cloroform.
Choloform vapour heavier than air and classically used by chemistry teachers to astound pupils.
Largest amounts shown on tire cover pieces. Lowest point? Perhaps the focus of cleaning efforts.
Other chemicals may well have been as volatile "evapourated away" whereas chloform sank down and some absorbed.
We don't know what cleaners the A's had (perhaps very old supplies) We do know somebody went to a lot of trouble to remove and wash contents and open all the windows to "air out" so it's a safe bet they tried every cleaner, bleach and anything they could get their hands on. Even if they did not, KC's lawyer can suggest that they may well have and so explain (reasonable doubt) the presence of chloroform.
 
  • #395
Maybe I'm incredibly myopic, but Casey physically typed something akin to "how to make chloroform" into Google, did she not? I understand and truly appreciate the Homer analogy, but it seems credulity-stretching to chalk those searches up to a very random form of internet ADD AND explain away the actual chloroform as just an unlucky combination of factors.

Like someone else said, chloroform doesn't reduce down to chloroform in a "pure" state. It would be so strange to find a heavy concentration of chloroform in the trunk and *nothing* else. A heavily cleaned trunk would have something that would be discernable from chloroform.

It just seems like we'd have to believe that detached, sociopathic Casey randomly looked up chloroform a few months before her daughter accidentally dies in some random incident, and then the FBI happens to find a high concentration of chloroform and nothing else, and then Caylee's remains are found with no discernable physical trauma to indicate a cause of death.

Hope Casey never gets out and goes to Vegas. She'll lose her whole commisary fund with that luck.
 
  • #396
Maybe I'm incredibly myopic, but Casey physically typed something akin to "how to make chloroform" into Google, did she not? I understand and truly appreciate the Homer analogy, but it seems credulity-stretching to chalk those searches up to a very random form of internet ADD AND explain away the actual chloroform as just an unlucky combination of factors.

Like someone else said, chloroform doesn't reduce down to chloroform in a "pure" state. It would be so strange to find a heavy concentration of chloroform in the trunk and *nothing* else. A heavily cleaned trunk would have something that would be discernable from chloroform.

It just seems like we'd have to believe that detached, sociopathic Casey randomly looked up chloroform a few months before her daughter accidentally dies in some random incident, and then the FBI happens to find a high concentration of chloroform and nothing else, and then Caylee's remains are found with no discernable physical trauma to indicate a cause of death.

Hope Casey never gets out and goes to Vegas. She'll lose her whole commisary fund with that luck.
 
  • #397
Cross-posted on the computer forensics thread, but appropriate here as well, IMHO.

Muzikman uploaded KC's photobucket images to icons157.zip. I downloaded these last night and looked through the files today. There are several thousand images here, most of them "icons" with a few hundred pictures of Casey, Caylee, and friends scattered throughout. Most of the pictures have been posted on the web, and a few of the icons.

Executive Summary: Since many won't read my long-winded analysis, I will cut to the chase. Having analyzed KC's Photobucket uploads and the patterns of the uploads, I am convinced now more than ever that the searches for chloroform, household weapons, etc. in mid-March 2008 were meaningless and unconnected to the death of Caylee.

I looked at several things when examining this CD: Date / time files were uploaded, the content of the image or picture that was uploaded, the "theme" of the images, and whether or not "clustering" of images occurred (uploads of several pictures having the same theme at the same time).

Here is a summary of what I found along with some conclusions I drew:
1. Prior to June 16, KC almost always uploaded files before 8:30 AM, from 1:00 PM to 3:00 PM, and after 8:30 PM. While there are a very small handful of exceptions, the overall pattern is very clear.
I would conclude from the above that KC was on the computer when Caylee was asleep (evening) or napping. Nap time seems to be roughly 1 to 3 PM, based on computer activity.

2. Uploads after 6/16 clearly break the pattern established pre-6/16.

I would conclude that KC is no longer worrying about Caylee's sleep habits.

3. KC uploads in "themes". Multiple themes are often uploaded in a single day, within a very short (minutes) period of time. A theme might be tattoos, love, boyfriends, gangstas, or oral sex.

I would conclude that KC has "internet ADD". She spends a very short period of time on one topic and then bounces into another. I think her twelve minutes of chloroform and household weapons searches fall into this category. It is almost like Homer Simpson talking philosophy and then stopping to pick up a penny he found on a sidewalk.


4. KC likes images of skulls, tatoos, suggestions of being a 🤬🤬🤬🤬 or 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬, and partying.

5. Many of the sayings or quotes collected by KC refer to relationships in either a serious or dark-humor manner.

6. By far the largest and most graphic collection of icons and quotes of a sexual nature were posted mid-2007. By comparison the images uploaded after January 2008 are pretty lame.

While these are not images of KC, I believe that these are the images the FBI was referring to when interviewing George.

7. The largest collection of skulls and other "dark images" also occurred in 2007.

8. The largest collection of party images occurred in 2007 and early January 2008.

9. KC clearly spent a substantial amount of time searching for and collecting the images.
Standing back and putting the chloroform searches into a better context than reasoned above in my earlier posts, I think KC was originally searching for an image similar to the "Win her over ... with chloroform" image, and this search took her to women's self-defense site, then to weapon's sites, then to a zombie poll...then after 12 minutes she got bored and "found a penny", moving on to something else.

Living her life 10 minutes at a time.

:clap::clap::clap:
I was curious about the icon uploads and patterns. You do outstanding work and are to be commended. The shame is many posters who want to believe in a diabolical premediated consistent choloroforming theory will not read what you have posted. Unless they hear it on NG... Say maybe you need to go on NG.
 
  • #398
Maybe I'm incredibly myopic, but Casey physically typed something akin to "how to make chloroform" into Google, did she not? I understand and truly appreciate the Homer analogy, but it seems credulity-stretching to chalk those searches up to a very random form of internet ADD AND explain away the actual chloroform as just an unlucky combination of factors.

Like someone else said, chloroform doesn't reduce down to chloroform in a "pure" state. It would be so strange to find a heavy concentration of chloroform in the trunk and *nothing* else. A heavily cleaned trunk would have something that would be discernable from chloroform.

It just seems like we'd have to believe that detached, sociopathic Casey randomly looked up chloroform a few months before her daughter accidentally dies in some random incident, and then the FBI happens to find a high concentration of chloroform and nothing else, and then Caylee's remains are found with no discernable physical trauma to indicate a cause of death.

Hope Casey never gets out and goes to Vegas. She'll lose her whole commisary fund with that luck.
 
  • #399
Cross-posted on the computer forensics thread, but appropriate here as well, IMHO.

Muzikman uploaded KC's photobucket images to icons157.zip. I downloaded these last night and looked through the files today. There are several thousand images here, most of them "icons" with a few hundred pictures of Casey, Caylee, and friends scattered throughout. Most of the pictures have been posted on the web, and a few of the icons.

Executive Summary: Since many won't read my long-winded analysis, I will cut to the chase. Having analyzed KC's Photobucket uploads and the patterns of the uploads, I am convinced now more than ever that the searches for chloroform, household weapons, etc. in mid-March 2008 were meaningless and unconnected to the death of Caylee.

I looked at several things when examining this CD: Date / time files were uploaded, the content of the image or picture that was uploaded, the "theme" of the images, and whether or not "clustering" of images occurred (uploads of several pictures having the same theme at the same time).

Here is a summary of what I found along with some conclusions I drew:
1. Prior to June 16, KC almost always uploaded files before 8:30 AM, from 1:00 PM to 3:00 PM, and after 8:30 PM. While there are a very small handful of exceptions, the overall pattern is very clear.
I would conclude from the above that KC was on the computer when Caylee was asleep (evening) or napping. Nap time seems to be roughly 1 to 3 PM, based on computer activity.

2. Uploads after 6/16 clearly break the pattern established pre-6/16.

I would conclude that KC is no longer worrying about Caylee's sleep habits.

3. KC uploads in "themes". Multiple themes are often uploaded in a single day, within a very short (minutes) period of time. A theme might be tattoos, love, boyfriends, gangstas, or oral sex.

I would conclude that KC has "internet ADD". She spends a very short period of time on one topic and then bounces into another. I think her twelve minutes of chloroform and household weapons searches fall into this category. It is almost like Homer Simpson talking philosophy and then stopping to pick up a penny he found on a sidewalk.


4. KC likes images of skulls, tatoos, suggestions of being a 🤬🤬🤬🤬 or 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬, and partying.

5. Many of the sayings or quotes collected by KC refer to relationships in either a serious or dark-humor manner.

6. By far the largest and most graphic collection of icons and quotes of a sexual nature were posted mid-2007. By comparison the images uploaded after January 2008 are pretty lame.

While these are not images of KC, I believe that these are the images the FBI was referring to when interviewing George.

7. The largest collection of skulls and other "dark images" also occurred in 2007.

8. The largest collection of party images occurred in 2007 and early January 2008.

9. KC clearly spent a substantial amount of time searching for and collecting the images.
Standing back and putting the chloroform searches into a better context than reasoned above in my earlier posts, I think KC was originally searching for an image similar to the "Win her over ... with chloroform" image, and this search took her to women's self-defense site, then to weapon's sites, then to a zombie poll...then after 12 minutes she got bored and "found a penny", moving on to something else.

Living her life 10 minutes at a time.


:clap::clap::clap:
I was curious about the icon uploads and patterns. You do outstanding work and are to be commended. The shame is many posters who want to believe in a diabolical premediated consistent choloroforming theory will not read what you have posted. Unless they hear it on NG... Say maybe you need to go on NG.
 
  • #400
Maybe I'm incredibly myopic, but Casey physically typed something akin to "how to make chloroform" into Google, did she not? I understand and truly appreciate the Homer analogy, but it seems credulity-stretching to chalk those searches up to a very random form of internet ADD AND explain away the actual chloroform as just an unlucky combination of factors.

Like someone else said, chloroform doesn't reduce down to chloroform in a "pure" state. It would be so strange to find a heavy concentration of chloroform in the trunk and *nothing* else. A heavily cleaned trunk would have something that would be discernable from chloroform.

It just seems like we'd have to believe that detached, sociopathic Casey randomly looked up chloroform a few months before her daughter accidentally dies in some random incident, and then the FBI happens to find a high concentration of chloroform and nothing else, and then Caylee's remains are found with no discernable physical trauma to indicate a cause of death.

Hope Casey never gets out and goes to Vegas. She'll lose her whole commisary fund with that luck.
 
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