Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #188

[Spartygirl]

I was talking about Bob Motta's invitation to Aine and Kevin. He gave them more than 24 hours notice and they ignored him. Not surprising.

IMO MOO

Oh, well in the post from you that I quoted, Mottas name was not there and sounded like you were discussing the other clowns .

sorry for the confusion.

 

[sunshineray]

And he shouldn't. Private conversations should remain private, as he said. He owns what he says. Good on him.

IMO MOO

I watched it, sounded like he was panicked and doing the side-shuffled to me. It didn't surprise. AJMO

 

[sunshineray]

I was talking about Bob Motta's invitation to Aine and Kevin. He gave them more than 24 hours notice and they ignored him. Not surprising.

IMO MOO

Not at all surprising to me that they didn't want to attend a podcast hosted by the very people they find reprehensible in their words and actions. What was surprising to me was that CW didn't chose to attend. Just my thoughts

 

[Quim The Extraordinaire]

Beautiful public post from Becky Patty.

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[Ravenmoon]

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BP is classy and full of grace.
I wish that everyone would take just a moment and think about what it must be like to stand in her shoes!

 

[Quim The Extraordinaire]

Not at all surprising to me that they didn't want to attend a podcast hosted by the very people they find reprehensible in their words and actions. What was surprising to me was that CW didn't chose to attend. Just my thoughts

IMO MOO ETC

Not to mention Motta was a named, active contributor in the messages and said that Murder Sheet is in his “Zone of Pain.”

Whatever that means.

Reference:

‎Murder Sheet: The Delphi Murders: The Secret Messages of the Delphi Defense’s Brain Trust: Part Two: "That’s a Job for a Group of Sleuths" on Apple Podcasts

‎Show Murder Sheet, Ep The Delphi Murders: The Secret Messages of the Delphi Defense’s Brain Trust: Part Two: "That’s a Job for a Group of Sleuths" - Jul 15, 2024

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I’ll report and ask whether Defense Diaries is an allowed source here since posters are referencing as though it were despite the principals’ demonstrated hypocrisy and lack of credibility.

IMO MOO ETC

 

[TTF14]

Not at all surprising to me that they didn't want to attend a podcast hosted by the very people they find reprehensible in their words and actions. What was surprising to me was that CW didn't chose to attend. Just my thoughts

I agree....I wish she had.

 

[TTF14]

I’ll report and ask whether Defense Diaries is an allowed source here since posters are referencing as though it were despite the principals’ demonstrated hypocrisy and lack of credibility.

IMO MOO ETC

Thank you!

Since they are being disparaged by the Murder Sheet, an approved source, it seems only fair that we can at least mention their names and discuss them. It would be hard to talk about the Murder Sheets complaints without saying their names.

IMO MOO

 

[TTF14]

BP is classy and full of grace.
I wish that everyone would take just a moment and think about what it must be like to stand in her shoes!

She's always so on top of things. Doesn't miss a thing. Libby looks so adorable in that pic of her frowning. What a cute baby she was and beautiful girl.

IMO MOO

 

[Ravenmoon]

She's always so on top of things. Doesn't miss a thing. Libby looks so adorable in that pic of her frowning. What a cute baby she was and beautiful girl.

IMO MOO

LG has a radiance in her smile that most people can only wish to have.
She was SO full of life!

How sad that it was stolen!

 

[TTF14]

LG has a radiance in her smile that most people can only wish to have.
She was SO full of life!

How sad that it was stolen!

Yes. My favorite video of her is the one where she's behind Kelsi (who is fake frowning) and she slides up toward her. You can really see her personality and why everyone loved her.

 

[Quim The Extraordinaire]

Thank you!

Since they are being disparaged by the Murder Sheets, an approved source, it seems only fair that we can at least mention their names and discuss them. It would be hard to talk about the Murder Sheets complaints without saying their names.

IMO MOO

IMO MOO

There’s a difference between saying their names and citing unlinked YouTube content.

I’d like to clarify a one-time use allowance for whatever episode you keep referring to. Certainly, though, one is not compelled to listen to it before critiquing it.

I’m certain he followed my predicted playbook:

1) Normalize
2) Minimize
3) Cheer on the amazing professionalism of his sorry band of unethical morons

Did he deny it? My guess is no, he can’t deny it because there are receipts. So instead they’ll spin it using a playbook older than dirt — something an old warhorse might remember.

IMO MOO ETC

 

[katydid23]

Is there a standardized license required to do this sort of work? I can't seem to find info that says X is required, and X is the oversight body??

I don't know if Indiana has a legal requirement or not. But it seems like common sense is required.

B and R have already had bad outcomes with leaks coming from their organisation. I'd think they'd want to lock down those kinds of situations in the future. Having 4 of their closest inner circle hanging out in a Discord group chat, discussing the case strategy and 'making' future plan ideas to take to the defense team seems risky and problematic.

Just the fact that there are defense team members, like CW, openly discussing the release of the jurors info, to anyone who volunteers, is a bad look. It is unprofessional, if not technically illegal. IMO

 

[katydid23]

Why should we take HIS word for it? Why can't we see it for ourselves? In entirity?

So now you want them to release all the screenshotted messages publicly? Do you think CW really wants that?

I suppose they will if CW and MH etc, call for that. But I doubt they will.

But if they keep accusing MS of being misleading they might release all of the messages. That is probably not in CW's best interest. IMO

 

[katydid23]

People have seen them. Great! Why haven't they been released to the public then?

I think some have been released on SM platforms.

 

[katydid23]

I really wish the MS youtubers would just go on a live with the people they are accusing (who have offered to talk like adults about it) and get it all out in the open.

MS already offered to talk about it all together like adults and CW and the others refused the invitation.

And I think we ALL would be embarrassed to have our private conversations made public the way youtubers Aine and Kevin did to CW so I really do not blame her for being mad.

It depends upon what the conversations were about. If I said that seeing pictures of the victims all smiling and happy really bothered me and made me sick, and that seeing the grisly crime photos was not really as bad as I thought--I might be embarrassed.

It was a crappy thing to do and not at all professional.

I think Paul was doing the right thing.

They got a headline out of it though, so mission accomplished. Future juors may see it and be influenced. Clap clap clap.

IMO MOO

I don't think it was all about headlines. IMO

 

[TTF14]

MS already offered to talk about it all together like adults and CW and the others refused the invitation.

Five minutes notice?

 

[Spartygirl]

Why should we take HIS word for it? Why can't we see it for ourselves? In entirity?

Who knows ??
Perhaps you can ask them to display them in their entirety.

I'm sure we would all like to see them.

 

[katydid23]

Why do so many people think social workers are some sort of super human saints? Some are, sure. Many however, are not. Again though, what are her actual credentials? Is she licensed? Just curious. I wonder if her work place will "cancel" her now for her given her remarks about the family?

BBM I hope so. She should not be the one asked to comfort crime victims or orphaned children, IMO.

 

[katydid23]

And he shouldn't. Private conversations should remain private, as he said. He owns what he says. Good on him.

IMO MOO

Right, so that nullifies the false narrative here that MS was somehow faking the messages or lying about them.Or it is a 'he said/she said situation. IMO