Absentee Hotline place in the schools

[gardeness]

I disagree. Once whoever was gone with him, they were gone. No one stopped at the office to let them know they were leaving.

If it was Terri who was a well-known figure in the school, on a day so much was going on, it would have been easy to "just run out" to the truck, either to get something they forgot, or to leave.

What do you disagree with? I'm talking about the teacher's responsibility--if it's true that Terri talked about a dr.'s appt. and the teacher understood that Kyron was leaving for the doctor, she (the teacher) should have received something in writing from the office to validate that he was leaving the school campus. Then, there would have been NO confusion on her end about "Where is Kyron?"--it's the checks and balances procedure of taking a child out of class before school has ended for the day.

 

[hoppyfrog]

We moved from Mass last year, and I was amazed to discover that the school here most definitely does not want the parents to call if a child is absent.

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Meanwhile, if the kid is missing, the school doesn't know it and doesn't care. It's a totally different world than exists in New England, in my experience.

That's absolutely horrible. And where is this, if you care to say?

 

[mmmagique]

What do you disagree with? I'm talking about the teacher's responsibility--if it's true that Terri talked about a dr.'s appt. and the teacher understood that Kyron was leaving for the doctor, she (the teacher) should have received something in writing from the office to validate that he was leaving the school campus. Then, there would have been NO confusion on her end about "Where is Kyron?"--it's the checks and balances procedure of taking a child out of class before school has ended for the day.

Except school had not even started for the day. It wasn't to start for another hour and fifteen minutes. No sense signing a child out for something they haven't been signed in for.

 

[gardeness]

Except school had not even started for the day. It wasn't to start for another hour and fifteen minutes. No sense signing a child out for something they haven't been signed in for.

IIRC, school did start at it's regular time, 8:45, and classes started at 10:00. The bus ran it's usual morning schedule.

 

[mmmagique]

Even if school did start at its regular time, Kyron was under his stepmother's care the entire time he was there, therefore had not been "given over" to the school.

Btw, the "regular time" for school to begin is 8:55 according to Skyline's website.

http://www.sbsd.k12.ca.us/SKY/

Since Terri did not leave him in the care of anyone, she still technically had control of him, so if she were leaving with him, would have no reason to sign him out at that time.

(although, weirdly she claims in that email, that Kyron was walking around with a male chaperone and two girls) but at other times she also claims that she waved goodbye to him as he walked down the hall toward his classroom.

Is she claiming that he was with the chaperone while he was walking down the hall, or that they were given to those chaperones after she left, or this is something that happened before she left, and then she walked him to his hallway btw? I'm sure I'm confabulating with this chaperone and the wave goodbye, but I'm not sure exactly what she's claiming.

 

[gardeness]

Even if school did start at its regular time, Kyron was under his stepmother's care the entire time he was there, therefore had not been "given over" to the school.

Btw, the "regular time" for school to begin is 8:55 according to Skyline's website.

http://www.sbsd.k12.ca.us/SKY/

Since Terri did not leave him in the care of anyone, she still technically had control of him, so if she were leaving with him, would have no reason to sign him out at that time.

(although, weirdly she claims in that email, that Kyron was walking around with a male chaperone and two girls) but at other times she also claims that she waved goodbye to him as he walked down the hall toward his classroom.

Is she claiming that he was with the chaperone while he was walking down the hall, or that they were given to those chaperones after she left, or this is something that happened before she left, and then she walked him to his hallway btw? I'm sure I'm confabulating with this chaperone and the wave goodbye, but I'm not sure exactly what she's claiming.

We'll have to disagree--and that's okay! When a child arrives on a school campus to attend school, they are in the care of the school at that point, even if their parent is still on campus. The parent still has to check the child out if they want to take them home early.

It is the same for all of the children who rode the bus that morning, and all of the children who attended Skyline that day whose parents did not attend the science fair.

The actual time that school started is not my point (but thanks for the correction)--the fact that school started at it's regular time is what matters.

 

[gardeness]

Think of it like this--if a parent spends the day at the school with their child, are they in charge of their child for that day? No, they are not. Their child still has to follow the school and teacher's rules and procedures. The parent cannot overrule the school or teacher just because they attended with their child. The child is in the school's care when they arrive on campus to attend school for the day.

 

[mmmagique]

We'll have to disagree--and that's okay! When a child arrives on a school campus to attend school, they are in the care of the school at that point, even if their parent is still on campus. The parent still has to check the child out if they want to take them home early.

It is the same for all of the children who rode the bus that morning, and all of the children who attended Skyline that day whose parents did not attend the science fair.

The actual time that school started is not my point (but thanks for the correction)--the fact that school started at it's regular time is what matters.

Honestly, (and I don't have a link at this time) when this first came out, on one news cast I watched, they had said that this particular day was a bit different. That people could come and go, and school really wasn't regular that day. I don't know if it's true or not. It's what I saw on tv once, but never again.

I truly wish I knew what the actual rules were, but I just don't.

But even if school was conducted as per usual that day (and we know in several ways it wasn't) if Terri made it seem that they were there to just drop off the project, or to look at the projects, and kept Kyron with her the entire time, and then told the teacher they were leaving to go to the doctor, (at a time I suspect was quite a bit earlier than 8:45, but let's just say it was 8:45) I can see the teacher waving goodbye to the mother and volunteer teacher's aide who was such a well-known figure in the school.

 

[Beyond Belief]

Topic for this thread is:

Absentee Hotline place in the schools

 

[mmmagique]

So, are we not allowed to discuss whether or not an absentee hotline would have made a difference in this case?