AK AK - Cantwell, WhtMale UP12492, Pre40, in bush, sandy hair, no torso, Sept'92

[MadMcGoo]

Unidentified Person / NamUs UP12492


Date Body Found: September 6, 1992
Location Found: Cantwell, Denali Borough, Alaska
Inventory of Remains: Torso, one or more limbs, and one or both hands not recovered
Condition of Remains: Not recognizable - Partial skeletal parts only
Race/Sex: White/Male
Estimated Age Group: Adult - Pre 40
Height & Weight: Cannot Estimate
Hair Color: Sandy
Eye Color: Unknown
Circumstances of Recovery: Hunters found partial remains in the bush

Investigating Agencies
Alaska Medical Examiner's Office
Stephen Hoage, Investigation Supervisor: (907) 334-2200
ME/C Case Number: 92-61621
Alaska State Troopers - Fairbanks
Lantz Dahlke, Trooper: (907) 451-5100

3 Missing Person Exclusions
MP15627 Jackie Letney 11/01/1986 Fairbanks North Star AK
MP26374 Joseph Filaia 06/01/1982 Fairbanks North Star AK
MP11179 Ralph Jensen 03/03/1981 Juneau AK

 

[iulia]

A NamUs page (UP89841) was created yesterday that seems very similar to this UID. There are many similarities between the two cases, and just a couple of differences, so I am not sure if it's the same set of remains or not.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Similarities between UP12492 and UP89841

Sex Male
Race/Ethnicity White / Caucasian
Estimated Age Group Adult - Pre 40
Height Cannot Estimate
Weight Cannot Estimate
Date Body Found September 6, 1992
Location Cantwell, Alaska
Condition of Remains Not recognizable - Partial skeletal parts only

Differences:

ME/C Case Number 92-61621 (UP12492) vs ME/C Case Number 1994-00532 (UP89841)

Denali Borough (UP12492) vs Fairbanks North Star Borough (UP89841)
From a quick Google search it looks like there is no Cantwell in Fairbanks North Star, but there is one in Denali Borough.

Circumstances of Recovery
Hunters found partial remains in the bush (UP12492) vs Found in the woods by hikers. (UP89841)

Hair Color Sandy (UP12492) vs Brown (UP89841)

 

[creepedout]

Fairbanks North Star Borough does not include Cantwell, and what are the odds two sets of remains were found on that same day? Fat chance. I'd say these are the same, and one has errors.

As far as a possible ID, could John Waterman be a possibility?

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
AAC Publications - Climbing Alone, Alaska, Mount KcKinley

 

[lightofmine99]

Bumping for Cantwell John Doe.

There are still only 3 exclusions. His NamUs was last modified in 2023.

 

[MadMcGoo]

A NamUs page (UP89841) was created yesterday that seems very similar to this UID. There are many similarities between the two cases, and just a couple of differences, so I am not sure if it's the same set of remains or not.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Similarities between UP12492 and UP89841

Sex Male
Race/Ethnicity White / Caucasian
Estimated Age Group Adult - Pre 40
Height Cannot Estimate
Weight Cannot Estimate
Date Body Found September 6, 1992
Location Cantwell, Alaska
Condition of Remains Not recognizable - Partial skeletal parts only

Differences:

ME/C Case Number 92-61621 (UP12492) vs ME/C Case Number 1994-00532 (UP89841)

Denali Borough (UP12492) vs Fairbanks North Star Borough (UP89841)
From a quick Google search it looks like there is no Cantwell in Fairbanks North Star, but there is one in Denali Borough.

Circumstances of Recovery
Hunters found partial remains in the bush (UP12492) vs Found in the woods by hikers. (UP89841)

Hair Color Sandy (UP12492) vs Brown (UP89841)

This NamUs link is no longer working, so I'm guessing they were the same set of remains.

UP12492 Unidentified Male 1992 AK

Clipping found in Daily Sitka Sentinel published in Sitka, Alaska on 9/10/1992. UP12492 Unidentified Male 1992 AK

www.newspapers.com

The skull may have been there for several years.

3474UMAK

Dental records are available.

 

[heartanium]

Possibly David Brown Allen (MP84243)?

DLC: July 25, 1973
Missing From: Denali National Park, Alaska
Age: 21
Hair Color: Blond/Strawberry
Circumstances:
David departed from Eielson Bluffs in Denali National Park for a day hike to the Red Mountain area and never returned. Multiple searches of the area were unsuccessful in locating him.

There's about 43 miles between Red Mountain and Cantwell, not sure what trails/paths you would take though.

 

[heartanium]

Possibly David Brown Allen (MP84243)?

DLC: July 25, 1973
Missing From: Denali National Park, Alaska
Age: 21
Hair Color: Blond/Strawberry
Circumstances:
David departed from Eielson Bluffs in Denali National Park for a day hike to the Red Mountain area and never returned. Multiple searches of the area were unsuccessful in locating him.

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There's about 43 miles between Red Mountain and Cantwell, not sure what trails/paths you would take though.
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Submitted this to DoeNetwork and this match was already sent to law enforcement on January 11, 2023