AK AK - Tok, WhtMale 25-35, UP12375, one-eyed hitchhiker picked up in ID, Aug'79

[Natasha Mullins]

No, I have not received a response. The doe network said in their original email that I'd only get one if it was a match. I assume they didn't proceed with sending it to investigators since it's been over a year. Is it a good idea to send the match to another agency or just leave it alone?

I'm very glad to see another exclusion on the list, it's good that this case is still being looked at by someone

 

[carbuff]

Matches generally take a lot longer than exclusions. If they make a tentative initial match, they then have to follow up, locate relatives, perform confirming testing, notify other next of kin. That can take a couple of years.

And then there can be issues of ongoing criminal investigation. In this case the crime against the UID has been solved, but there's the possibility the UID himself was wanted for something serious.

So while it's discouraging not to hear anything, it doesn't necessarily mean they aren't following up.

 

[Springrain]

Somebody earlier in the thread mentioned wondering if investigators looked through Oregon's worker's compensation records to see if somebody was reported to have missed an eye in a logging accident about the same time Jack would have lost his. I wonder about that as well. I also do have to wonder if a logging company would go through those measures to report it. Just some thoughts floating around in my head.

 

[Romulus]

Found this profile; his left eye is missing or unknown, and also Height: 6'0" and Weight: 190 lbs is compatible!

4591DMFL - Christopher J. McCoy​

Name: Christopher J. McCoy
Case Classification: Missing
Missing Since: February 02, 1979
Location Last Seen: Perrine, Miami-Dade County, Florida

Physical Description​

Date of Birth: N/A
Age: 22 yrs old
Race: White
Gender: Male
Height: 6'0"
Weight: 190 lbs
Hair Color: Brown
Eye Color: Right eye Brown Left eye Unknown or Missing
Nickname/Alias: N/A
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Christopher has dark curly brown hair; he also had a broken fibula in high school

Identifiers​

Dentals: Not Available
Fingerprints: Not AVailable
DNA: Available

Clothing & Personal Items​

Clothing: Unknown
Jewelry: Unknown
Additional Personal Items: 1966 Blue Ford Fairlane Convertible

Circumstances of Disappearance​

Christopher has been missing since February 02, 1979.

Investigating Agency(s)​

Agency Name: Bloomington Police Department
Agency Contact Person: Detective John Atteberry
Agency Phone Number: 309-820-8888
Agency E-Mail: [email protected]
Agency Case Number: 201127893

NamUs Case Number: MP #11244
NCIC Case Number: N/A

Information Source(s)​

NamUs

4591DMFL - Christopher J. McCoy

 

[HmmMysterious]

Found this profile; his left eye is missing or unknown, and also Height: 6'0" and Weight: 190 lbs is compatible!

4591DMFL - Christopher J. McCoy​

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Name: Christopher J. McCoy
Case Classification: Missing
Missing Since: February 02, 1979
Location Last Seen: Perrine, Miami-Dade County, Florida

Physical Description​

Date of Birth: N/A
Age: 22 yrs old
Race: White
Gender: Male
Height: 6'0"
Weight: 190 lbs
Hair Color: Brown
Eye Color: Right eye Brown Left eye Unknown or Missing
Nickname/Alias: N/A
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Christopher has dark curly brown hair; he also had a broken fibula in high school

Identifiers​

Dentals: Not Available
Fingerprints: Not AVailable
DNA: Available

Clothing & Personal Items​

Clothing: Unknown
Jewelry: Unknown
Additional Personal Items: 1966 Blue Ford Fairlane Convertible

Circumstances of Disappearance​

Christopher has been missing since February 02, 1979.

Investigating Agency(s)​

Agency Name: Bloomington Police Department
Agency Contact Person: Detective John Atteberry
Agency Phone Number: 309-820-8888
Agency E-Mail: [email protected]
Agency Case Number: 201127893

NamUs Case Number: MP #11244
NCIC Case Number: N/A

Information Source(s)​

NamUs

4591DMFL - Christopher J. McCoy

I noticed that DNA is available for both McCoy and John Doe. It might be an automatic exclusion.

 

[carbuff]

Found this profile; his left eye is missing or unknown, and also Height: 6'0" and Weight: 190 lbs is compatible!

4591DMFL - Christopher J. McCoy​

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Name: Christopher J. McCoy
Case Classification: Missing
Missing Since: February 02, 1979
Location Last Seen: Perrine, Miami-Dade County, Florida

Physical Description​

Date of Birth: N/A
Age: 22 yrs old
Race: White
Gender: Male
Height: 6'0"
Weight: 190 lbs
Hair Color: Brown
Eye Color: Right eye Brown Left eye Unknown or Missing
Nickname/Alias: N/A
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Christopher has dark curly brown hair; he also had a broken fibula in high school

Identifiers​

Dentals: Not Available
Fingerprints: Not AVailable
DNA: Available

Clothing & Personal Items​

Clothing: Unknown
Jewelry: Unknown
Additional Personal Items: 1966 Blue Ford Fairlane Convertible

Circumstances of Disappearance​

Christopher has been missing since February 02, 1979.

Investigating Agency(s)​

Agency Name: Bloomington Police Department
Agency Contact Person: Detective John Atteberry
Agency Phone Number: 309-820-8888
Agency E-Mail: [email protected]
Agency Case Number: 201127893

NamUs Case Number: MP #11244
NCIC Case Number: N/A

Information Source(s)​

NamUs

4591DMFL - Christopher J. McCoy

Unfortunately Christopher didn't go missing until after the date when the confessed murderer says he killed the unidentified man, according to the information in this thread"s first post:

"Subsequently an individual in custody in Nevada admitted to murdering a hitchhiker that he had picked up in September of 1978 while driving in Alaska."

But neither Doenetwork nor Namus include that information so maybe it's not accurate--this is probably close enough to submit just to make sure the DNA was tested.

 

[Romulus]

But only I see similarities with the chin and nose? They look similar to me.

 

[Romulus]

In Namus missing eye is right...

 

[Romulus]

Possible this profile?

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Missing Person / NamUs #MP12784
John Paul Koziatek, Male, White / Caucasian
Date of Last Contact: July 30, 1979
Missing From: Cincinnati, Ohio
Missing Age: 21 Years

 

[Romulus]

Missing Person / NamUs #MP80201
Clayton Randolph Quayle, Male, White / Caucasian
Date of Last Contact: June 6, 1978
Missing From: Bozeman, Montana
Missing Age: 24 Years

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Missing Person / NamUs #MP18934
Dwayne Alexander Dicicco, Male, White/Caucasian
Date of Last Contact: August 13, 1974
Missing From: Kalispell, Montana
Missing Age: 25 Years

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

 

[SoulfulSerenade]

This is one of my pet cases that still haven't been solved. It's sad no one misses him

 

[carbuff]

Franklin David Harder has been ruled out dentals but isn't listed on the Namus exclusions.

No new exclusions on Namus, just:

-- Richard Riquier 04/17/1973
MP7696 John Barreto 01/20/1977 Clackamas OR

 

[carbuff]

Missing Person / NamUs #MP80201
Clayton Randolph Quayle, Male, White / Caucasian
Date of Last Contact: June 6, 1978
Missing From: Bozeman, Montana
Missing Age: 24 Years

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OMG. I went to school with Clayton. I didn't realize they still considered him missing--the story at the time was that he had gone out hunting in a rather rugged area with lots of old mines and had fallen down a mine shaft. (He would not have been the first to die that way in that area.)

I didn't know him well and hadn't seen him for years, but...yeah, that could be him.

 

[rose_quartz]

Bumping

 

[JSolt1210]

I've always wondered whether it was sexual, either a consensual encounter that went south, so to speak, or one or the other objecting to an advance from the other one. It's a situation that often produces that kind of violence.

This is exactly what I thought too—especially when I read that the man originally wanted to go to Pendleton, but when Bishop said he was going to Alaska, the man decided to randomly tag along? That's a huge change of plans! Going from a three-hour drive to a two-day trip isn't a decision most people make on a whim. Makes me think they had to have developed some sort of connection and somehow hit it off, so to speak.

 

[rose_quartz]

Is there any DNA from this doe? I wonder if any genetic testing can be done?

 

[rylie113]

This is probably a stretch but I'm throwing it out there anyway.

Brian Guberman bears resemblance to the doe in my opinion, height and weight would be similar. He left from Edmonton, AB in 1974 and was an avid traveller. DoeNetwork suggests he wanted to stay with his cousins in Vancouver but never arrived, and had told other family he was going travelling. Maybe he changed his mind about Vancouver and didn't have their phone number and went into the States? Also, the time frame between Brian going missing and the doe's encounter with the murderer would be enough time to a) lose an eye and b) obtain a new identity in the US.

As for the "annoying behaviour" that caused the doe to be murdered, perhaps driving up through Canada made him nervous if they stopped in locations Brian was familiar with? Oregon and Idaho are both popular places to visit for Canadians.

 

[rose_quartz]

This is probably a stretch but I'm throwing it out there anyway.

Brian Guberman bears resemblance to the doe in my opinion, height and weight would be similar. He left from Edmonton, AB in 1974 and was an avid traveller. DoeNetwork suggests he wanted to stay with his cousins in Vancouver but never arrived, and had told other family he was going travelling. Maybe he changed his mind about Vancouver and didn't have their phone number and went into the States? Also, the time frame between Brian going missing and the doe's encounter with the murderer would be enough time to a) lose an eye and b) obtain a new identity in the US.

As for the "annoying behaviour" that caused the doe to be murdered, perhaps driving up through Canada made him nervous if they stopped in locations Brian was familiar with? Oregon and Idaho are both popular places to visit for Canadians.

Definitely an interesting theory! Him being from Canada is very plausible. Could've explained why he suddenly changed his mind about going to Oregon originally.

Either way, it's crazy he hasn't been identified yet.
I wonder if @othram can take a look? I think this doe has DNA on file.

 

[apearn]

William Harold Fields has a missing eye. He went missing a few years prior and the circumstances don't sound right but he had also cleaned out his bank account so maybe he intended to wander off.
https://www.doenetwork.org/cases/software/mp-main.html?id=6234dmal

 

[getnormd]

"The killer said he had seen the hitchhiker's Oregon driver's license and said his name might have been Jack or John"

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