AK - Samantha Koenig, 18, Anchorage, 01 Feb 2012 - #6

[Psychic Sleuth]

Yep, I don't think there was anything about it other than this:
The abduction was apparently so stealthy that a person seen in the video, sitting in a pickup about 50 feet from the stand, didn't appear to notice anything strange, Tyler said.

"They were just oblivious," he said.

Well I wonder just how long that truck sat there? Can someone refresh my memory as to why I thought it was reported that the abductor and Sam left on foot?

 

[ak81]

Well I wonder just how long that truck sat there? Can someone refresh my memory as to why I thought it was reported that the abductor and Sam left on foot?

They did.. they walked west until they were out of camera view (Plus it was snowing hard that night so that might not have been that far).

 

[Snowbunny]

If you listen to the press conference someone asked if Keyes was helping with the renovations at the Athletic Club there and LE would say yes or no. Makes you wonder.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

They did.. they walked west until they were out of camera view (Plus it was snowing hard that night so that might not have been that far).

Well that certainly wouldn't make sense if it was his truck sitting there. Unless he moved the truck down the street and walked back and grabbed her? Obviously the owner that saw the video assumed the truck was sitting there at the moment Samantha was abducted right? What am I missing here?

 

[Snowbunny]

LE also wouldn't comment on whether or not JK or SK were connected to Keyes somehow.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Well they wouldn't comment on most of the questions So I don't know how much we can read into the 'no comment' thing.

Does anyone know where exactly that truck was parked in relation with the hut? What direction?

 

[ak81]

Well that certainly wouldn't make sense if it was his truck sitting there. Unless he moved the truck down the street and walked back and grabbed her? Obviously the owner that saw the video assumed the truck was sitting there at the moment Samantha was abducted right? What am I missing here?

The only way I can make the truck work into the scenario is if he had someone else there too.. A lookout in the truck (or Keyes being the lookout).. then when the two walk out of camera range, the truck leaves and picks them up a little farther down on Tudor. I wish someone could ask Tyler Duncan what color the truck was.. or if they could see when it drove away.

 

[LucyOso]

I was just reading the latest news...

http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/03/27/2085022/man-linked-to-missing-barista.html

Going back to a point that has been made before...was this a manufactured crime for money? Was Sam involved? Maybe things got out of hand later, but, what is the chance this was really a money scam and IK was just one player who in desperation agreed to go along? Maybe some one offered him money to use the card, so the back would refund the money later and this person turned him in for using the card once the pressure of the other investigation got too close to him-hence the delay.

I still don't understand why someone from IK's past has not come out of the woodwork for their 15 minutes of fame...

 

[ak81]

I was just reading the latest news...

http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/03/27/2085022/man-linked-to-missing-barista.html

Going back to a point that has been made before...was this a manufactured crime for money? Was Sam involved? Maybe things got out of hand later, but, what is the chance this was really a money scam and IK was just one player who in desperation agreed to go along?

That's my opinion. For whatever reason Keyes got involved, I don't believe it was abduction/rape/or murder situation, at all. I don't trust JK and I go back and forth about Sam's and DT's level of involvement, but I do believe it was a scam that went bad. And I still think JK Sr. might be a player as well. JMO!

 

[Whisperer]

If the card they found on Keyes is not related to SK or anyone connected to her, how is he a POI? Did they say?

 

[Whisperer]

According to a video I saw with LE, SK was scared and he says she was clearly abducted.

Does a terrified gal walk away with someone who is abducting her? No fight? She just walks along beside him for a little while. I don't get these girls that go meekly into the night..

 

[Whisperer]

According to a video I saw with LE, SK was scared and he says she was clearly abducted.

Does a terrified gal walk away with someone who is abducting her? No fight? She just walks along beside him for a little while. I don't get these girls that go meekly into the night..

 

[Ransom]

I was just reading the latest news...

http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/03/27/2085022/man-linked-to-missing-barista.html

Going back to a point that has been made before...was this a manufactured crime for money? Was Sam involved? Maybe things got out of hand later, but, what is the chance this was really a money scam and IK was just one player who in desperation agreed to go along? Maybe some one offered him money to use the card, so the back would refund the money later and this person turned him in for using the card once the pressure of the other investigation got too close to him-hence the delay.

I still don't understand why someone from IK's past has not come out of the woodwork for their 15 minutes of fame...

We don't know doodly about IK's past. He's playing the I' broke/single dad routine now, but records get expunged all the time. Read here at WS enough and your jaw would hit the floor when it all comes out in court. AND sometimes others get caught and others get away. Mind boggling. JMO


Night folks. Bring Samantha home!

 

[GutFeeling!]

According to a video I saw with LE, SK was scared and he says she was clearly abducted.

Does a terrified gal walk away with someone who is abducting her? No fight? She just walks along beside him for a little while. I don't get these girls that go meekly into the night..

Nor do I, but from personal experience, you just never know. Often it is that if you are being raped to just take it and not anger the rapist.

I have never been abducted. But I was robbed at gunpoint. I have done 100's of stories of what to do according to police in that situation. I am usually a pretty calm person but I was a total mess, it was a nightmare. I had no idea I would be that bad. Really hard to explain but you just never know how you would act or wwhat you would do.

 

[GutFeeling!]

If the card they found on Keyes is not related to SK or anyone connected to her, how is he a POI? Did they say?

After the press conference today I think it is the truck and I think it is on the CCTV footage.

 

[Whisperer]

I've been waiting for 8 min. so far for the "Live Feed". I think it is more like a "Dead Feed". I was asked if I wanted to "kill the pages"...guess I should have.

 

[Ransom]

According to a video I saw with LE, SK was scared and he says she was clearly abducted.

Does a terrified gal walk away with someone who is abducting her? No fight? She just walks along beside him for a little while. I don't get these girls that go meekly into the night..

A kidnapper abducted 18-year-old Samantha Koenig at gunpoint from the coffee stand in Alaska where she worked as a barista on Feb. 1.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/06/samantha-koenig-missing-a_n_1258565.html

NO video has been shown to the public, but LE has the video.

 

[Whisperer]

So did IK rob her, then rape her? Did he then go to another truck and steal a debit card after he was done?

I haven't kept up with this case...as you can see..LOL

 

[ConnectedSuitor]

Just thinking about the car IK was arrested in. He says he rented it in Las Vegas but it has TX plates. It looks like a hard top convertible to me. I doubt it's a rental. Any theories?

http://www.ktre.com/story/17148604/suspected-kidnapper-arrested-following-dps-traffic-stop-in-lufkin

 

[Ransom]

I've been waiting for 8 min. so far for the "Live Feed". I think it is more like a "Dead Feed". I was asked if I wanted to "kill the pages"...guess I should have.

http://www.ktuu.com/news/

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