AK - Samantha Koenig, 18, Anchorage, 01 Feb 2012 - #7

[LucyOso]

I'm jumping off your post, Knox, because it brings up a few thoughts that are on my mind. The whole thing seems like a series of unplanned, desperate, irrational reactions. Sine we learned about Keyes, I've always felt that money was his motivation, and the key is in Texas. Gut Feelings' bank robbery theory seemed plausible from the beginning, and now that we know Keyes was in Texas on the 16th, it seems even more possible, IMO. As for the coffee shop, people who are really desperate don't always think rationally in weighing the benefits to the risks and/or consequences. He might have simply seen an opportunity and acted on it. When it turned out the coffee shop didn't have much cash on hand, he turned to plan B, and from there on to C and D, and so forth.

Apparently, he was posing as Samantha in the text messages, using made up excuses to ask for money. I don't know if LE had them on video at Home Depot, but he was on video at the coffee shop. IMO, LE wasn't convinced the abduction was for real, and I *think* it was something about the coffee shop video that caused them to question it. They might even have been influenced by some of the ugly rumors we heard early on. Poor JK must've known it wasn't really Sam sending the texts, but who would believe him? I doubt LE did until the ransom demands came, which I agree were spawned by the talk of a reward fund, which brought more rumors. Meanwhile, while LE was working to unravel the truth from the BS, Keyes was free to carry on. :tsktsk:

The indictment doesn't name any charges of sexual abuse. On the other hand, we don't know the cause or manner of death. Considering where her body was found and the length of time that passed in between, simple rape would be hard to determine, if not impossible. Other conditions that often go along with sadistic sexual abuse would have been evident, though. Based on the indictment, however, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that wasn't the case.

All JMO

This makes very good sense...it just spiraled out of control. But, why would he take her from the coffee shop? Wouldn't it be easier to just rob the coffee shop? That is the part that makes me question what he was really after. Any ideas? Obviously, he didn't need a hostage to get away...Or maybe, because I am fairly new at this, I am trying to make sense of something that just will never make logical sense ever...:-(

 

[gliving]

In all likelihood, because he was holding a gun to her head, and she was scared to death. She would've given him anything if she thought it would save her life.

Keyes was very brazen to drive right up to her home and force her to steal the debit card from the truck. JK was up all night calling her phone. He or someone else in the house saw the robbery at 3am and later reported it to the police...

 

[bessie]

This makes very good sense...it just spiraled out of control. But, why would he take her from the coffee shop? Wouldn't it be easier to just rob the coffee shop? That is the part that makes me question what he was really after. Any ideas? Obviously, he didn't need a hostage to get away...Or maybe, because I am fairly new at this, I am trying to make sense of something that just will never make logical sense ever...:-(

It's possible that when he couldn't get money from the coffee shop, or not enough money, instead of just running off, he got angry. Samantha was scared and told him she could give him the ATM card. She was a kid. Poor girl was probably scared to death, and in her way of thinking, that was the way to get rid of him. The FBI affidavit doesn't say he tried to use the debit card until Feb 28th, if I recall correctly. But suppose he made Sam try to use it and there was no money. Then he got really angry and killed her. Or, there was some money. Maybe she and the bf had money in savings. Or one of them had just deposited a paycheck or an IRS refund that wasn't there the day before. She gave it to him, and he killed her anyway because she could ID him. Then the next day he hightails it to Texas and figures out a way to extort more money from her family. Beside the bank robbery (IF that was him), I wonder if there are any other unsolved robberies in the Houston or Dallas/FW areas during that time period.

 

[Knox]

Keyes was very brazen to drive right up to her home and force her to steal the debit card from the truck. JK was up all night calling her phone. He or someone else in the house saw the robbery at 3am and later reported it to the police...

IIRC, whoever it was that reported the card missing, said they "saw a man, rummaging through their vehicle".

"The investigation into Israel Keyes and his criminal activities continues," Chief Mew said.

http://www.adn.com/2012/04/18/2429498/authorities-plan-announcement.html#storylink=cpy

I wonder if this means LE thinks IK may have committed that armed robbery at the Texas bank while he was back there. Anyone know where the side by side photo is? I forget the posters name that brought that to our attention.

http://www.adn.com/2012/04/18/2429498/authorities-plan-announcement.html#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy​

 

[Knox]

A man described as "Person A" in the affidavit reported seeing an unknown man about 3 a.m. Feb. 2 wearing a ski mask and dark clothes going through his vehicle, the affidavit says.

Read more here: http://www.adn.com/2012/03/22/23860...-koenig-case.html#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy​

 

[bessie]

IIRC, whoever it was that reported the card missing, said they "saw a man, rummaging through their vehicle".
I wonder if this means LE thinks IK may have committed that armed robbery at the Texas bank while he was back there. Anyone know where the side by side photo is? I forget the posters name that brought that to our attention.

​

GutFeeling first brought the bank robbery to our attention, and I think I was the one who pointed out the similar profiles, but it was Smooth who did the side-by-side composite. Thanks again, SO!

 

[ak81]

(Updated) Timeline of the case
http://www.adn.com/2012/04/18/2429498/authorities-plan-announcement.html

Feb. 1 8 p.m.: Samantha Koenig disappears from Common Grounds Espresso coffee stand on Tudor Road near the end of her shift. The charges made public Wednesday accuse Israel Keyes, an Anchorage self-employed carpenter, of abducting her.

Feb. 2 About 3 a.m.: A man authorities now say was Keyes stole a debit card from a vehicle that Koenig shared. The new indictment says he got the PIN number from her.

Time unknown: Koenig is murdered.

1 p.m.: James Koenig reports his daughter missing. Police issue missing person's bulletin later that day seeking the public's help.

Feb. 3 Police say they are investigating Koenig's disappearance as a kidnapping. Surveillance video shows armed man wearing a dark hoodie walk up to the coffee shack and force her to leave with him, police said. Police won't release video.

Feb. 4: James Koenig announces reward of at least $12,500 for her safe return. Reward eventually grows to many times that.

Feb. 11: Hundreds of people show up at candlelight vigil for Koenig at Town Square park. City Church Pastor Richard Irwin spoke and addressed the abductor directly. "I have an idea that you are probably listening right now," he said. "There is hope for you. But please, we are begging you, let Samantha go."

Feb. 24: Israel Keyes uses Koenig's cellphone to send a text message demanding ransom money be deposited in an account connected with the debit card, the indictment alleges.

March 8: Police suggest that Koenig is still alive. "I'm privy to the details of the investigation, and I believe that she's alive," homicide Sgt. Slawomir Markiewicz said. But he doesn't provide any of those details.

March 15: Anchorage police announce that Israel Keyes was arrested in Lufkin, Texas on a financial fraud charge, and that he's connected to Koenig's disappearance. Police say they don't know where Koenig is, however.

March 22: Sworn statement by FBI agent in the Keyes fraud case is made public. He's accused of stealing a debit card and then using it in Anchorage, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas, the FBI says.

March 27: Keyes pleads not guilty to charge of using stolen debit card. Additional documents are filed under seal. A magistrate judge orders him held without bail.

March 30: Agents seize storage shed from Keyes' home in West Anchorage.

April 2: Anchorage police and the FBI announce that Koenig's body was discovered beneath the ice in Matanuska Lake, off the Glenn Highway near Palmer.

April 18: Indictment charging Keyes with kidnapping resulting in a death, possession of ransom money, and using a stolen debit card is made public.

 

[SmoothOperator]

Timeline of Keyes Criminal Activity:
Beginning @8:00pm 2/1 - 11:45am 3/13

2/1-- 8:00pm
-Keyes approached CGE (650 Tudor Anchorage, AK) and kidnapped/seized/abducted Samantha.
-Keyes walked Samantha across Tudor to his Chevy Silverado(AK plates) parked in Home Depot parking lot.
-Keyes confined Samantha in his truck and drove away.

2/2-- 3:00am
-Person A(now known to be DT) OBSERVED an unknown male adult wearing a ski mask and dark clothing going thru his vehicle(truck he shared with Samantha) outside of JK's house.
*note from warrant:
"Its believed that Person A(DT) debit card was stolen at this time. Person A SUBSEQUENTLY informed LE his Visa debit was missing and he'd not given his card to anyone nor given permission to use it"

-Keyes obtained the PIN number to the card from Samantha and scratched it into the card.

-At some point After 3:00am Keyes sent text messages from Samantha's cell in attempts to conceal her abduction(impersonating Sam)

-At some point after 3:00am Keyes INTENTIONALLY killed Samantha.

-Within hours of Keyes having abducted Sam, stolen DT's Visa DEBIT, And INTENTIONALLY murdered Samantha he boards a flight alongside his gf, KA, and his daughter and flew from Anchorage to Houston, TX.

2/17-- 15 days later(from 2/2) Keyes flies back to Anchorage.
**note:
This now corroborates the RUMOR that was stated by a woman claiming that her daughter is who house/dog sat for Keyes for 2weeks beginning on 2/2 when Keyes left to go to family wedding in Texas.

2/24-- Keyes sent text messages from Samantha's cell demanding ransom funds directed to be deposited into acct connected to stolen Visa debit card.

2/28-- 10:13pm(AST)
$600.00 attempted withdrawal/declined for exceeding daily limit
AUSAFCU 4300 Credit Union Dr. Anchorage AK

2/29--11:56pm(AST) *1hour 43mins after attempted 10:13 withdrawal*
$500.00 withdrawn
Denali Alaska FCU. 3020 Minnesota Dr. Anchorage AK

2/29--12:25am(AST) *31mins after 11:56 pm withdrawal*
$500.00 withdrawn
AUSAFCU 7575 DeBarr Rd. Anchorage AK

3/6--
-Keyes flies from Anchorage to Las Vegas NV
-rents White Ford Focus at airport in NV

3/7--11:57pm(MST)
$480.00 withdrawn
Western Bank 200 West Rex Allen Rd. Wilcon, AZ
**note:
ATM video shows male in gray hoodie, grey mask, glasses, gloves, jeans, white shoes, and driving White Ford Focus.

3/8--1:24am (MST)
Western Bank 711 Main St. Lordsburg, NM
$400.00 attempted withdrawal/declined for exceeding daily limit
-@1:25am at same bank
BALANCE INQUIRY+$3598.91
@1:26am at same bank
$80.00 withdrawn
**note:
Male wearing same disguise as in AZ ATM withdrawal and driving White Ford Focus

3/10--2:23am (CST)
$480.00 withdrawn
Houston Community Bank 1515 Farm to Market 1960 Bypass East Humble City, TX

3/12--2:47am(CST)
$480.00 withdrawn
Peoples State Bank 5050 Hwy 59 South Shepherd, TX
**note:
Male wearing same disquise and driving white Ford Focus.

3/13--11:00am(CST)
-White Ford Focus is observed parked at Quality Inn/Suites
4036 51st St. Lufkin, TX(short drive from Shepherd, TX)

-white male later identified as Keyes is seen leaving Room 215 and placed items in trunk of Ford Focus.

3/13--11:45am(CST)
-Keyes is stopped by TX Hwy Patrol Officer for speeding

-Keyes shows AK drivers license
-Keyes states he flew from Anchorage to Las Vegas 3/6 and rented car and drove to Lufkin in weeks time.
-Keyes unable to describe driving route from Vegas or why he chose this manner to travel given he reportedly was going to wedding in Wells, TX
-Keyes became increasingly agitated
-multiple highlighted maps in floor of car with highlighted routes thru North/South CA, NM, AZ, and TX.
-white shoes in floor of car.
-multiple rolls of rubber banded US currency in car door.
-located in trunk ..gray hoodie, glasses, cut gray T-shirt used as mask similar to what was seen on 3 ATM videos.
-Person A's(DT) Visa debit card was located on Keyes person.

<sources are both PDF arrest warrants Re: Israel Keyes>

 

[SmoothOperator]

In now looking at dates and times not only does it appear to corroborate the rumor stated by woman that said her daughter house/dog sat for Keyes for 2weeks beginning on 2/2 when Keyes went to family wedding in TX.. but my God could it actually be possible that she was there at Keyes home and Samantha's body possibly (?locked?) n the shed out back?

After studying and putting together the above timeline I say there's no way possible that Keyes would have had time to dispose of Sam's body in the Matsu lake before flying out 2/2..jmo.

 

[Coldpizza]

Everything makes so much more sense now. For me it also explains why LE didn't release the video. They allowed people to think that no one could be identified from the image including IK. It gave them time to stay on his trail in hopes of finding an alive Samantha.

Poor JK he must have been going out of his mind knowing back then what we finally know now.

 

[ConnectedSuitor]

SmoothOperator,

The family wedding was 3/11 in TX. Someone posted on an adn article that he went on a Mexican cruise with his girlfriend and daughter on Feb 2. [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7761688&postcount=578"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Found Deceased AK - Samantha Koenig, 18, Anchorage, 01 Feb 2012 - #7[/ame]

 

[ConnectedSuitor]

Jason Lamb &#8207; @JasonLambKTUU
https://twitter.com/#!/JasonLambKTUU

BREAKING NEWS: Israel Keyes pleads not guilty to kidnapping resulting in death and receipt of random money.

 

[SmoothOperator]

OK after A few hours sleep now in looking thru the timeline I constructed strictly from LE affidavits I have some serious questions..

Looking specifically at the timeframe below:
2/24-- Keyes sent text messages from Samantha's cell demanding ransom funds directed to be deposited into acct connected to stolen Visa debit card.

2/28-- 10:13pm(AST) $600.00 attempted withdrawal/declined for exceeding daily limit AUSAFCU 4300 Credit Union Dr. Anchorage AK

2/29--11:56pm(AST) *1hour 43mins after attempted 10:13 withdrawal* $500.00 withdrawn Denali Alaska FCU. 3020 Minnesota Dr. Anchorage AK

2/29--12:25am(AST) *31mins after 11:56 pm withdrawal* $500.00 withdrawn AUSAFCU 7575 DeBarr Rd. Anchorage AK

3/6---Keyes flies from Anchorage to Las Vegas NV -rents White Ford Focus at airport in NV
______________________________________
Beginning at the date 2/24 ..this is where Keyes makes initial contact with whom I assume is James and identifies himself as the abductor(where as on 2/2 when Keyes text from Sam's cell he was attempting to impersonate Sam for the purpose of buying time in concealing that she had been ABDUCTED).. ++ALSO NOTE THIS NOW MAKES SENSE WHY JAMES DID NOT IMMEDIATELY CALL LE TO REPORT SAM MISSING++..but back to 2/24 Keyes demands ransom and that the money be deposited to the acct for which he has the Visa debit that he stole from Sam/Duane's truck 3am of 2/2..

Keyes waits 4days after his ransom demand to make the first attempt to withdraw funds on 2/28..

QUESTION-- In seeing that Keyes used Sam's cell to send atleast one text message with his demands for ransom and the directives of how to supply the funds..well.. IMO there is no way this could have been accomplished without the cell phone having connected with the network signal in order to send the text message.. I understand Keyes easily could have removed Sam's battery from the moment he abducted her and only replaced battery and powered on when sending the text in early morning hours of 2/2(impersonating Sam to conceal abduction) and again on 2/24.. after sending each text I assume he again removed the battery.. nonetheless those two text messages sent would have had to connect with the network in sending a signal in order to have successfully sent the SMS/text messages..

Why then could not the text message sent on 2/24 have been tracked? I understand that he most likely did cut off her GPS(if she even had it on to begin with) but still the good old fashioned pings would have been available .. Keyes was in Anchorage when he sent text message of demands.. Keyes was still in Anchorage 4 days later when he withdrew the ransom money from banks in Anchorage.. and furthermore Keyes stayed an additional 7 more days AFTER HE WITHDREW $1000.00 From Anchorage ATMs at which Keyes wore NO DISGUISE/MASK FOR ANY OF THE ATM TRANSACTIONS MADE IN ANCHORAGE..

WTF?? We have Keyes using the victims cell on 2/24 not only emitting trackable pings from where he sent the text but we have the perp making contact with victims family CONFIRMING the abduction and making demand for ransom WITH THE SPECIFIC DIRECTIVE OF HOW TO DEPOSIT FUNDS FROM WHICH HE WOULD THEN WITHDRAW THE FUNDS WITH THE CARD STOLEN FROM SAM/DUANE'S TRUCK.. so now we do not just have a ping to track(which he could've driven a great distance replaced battery into cell, powered on, and sent text.. then immediately after text removing battery.so I get that may not have been of much help in locating Keyes) ...but come on now the perp has told you that he is going to withdraw funds with stolen debit..NOW JUST WAIT AND SEE...

Which as we know 4 days later that's exactly what Keyes did from right there in Anchorage, AK.. Keyes with NO DISGUISE/MASK WHATSOEVER entered 3 different bank ATMs at 3 different locations and withdrew $1,000. 00 cash.. AND THEN HE STUCK AROUND ANCHORAGE FOR AN ADDITIONAL 7 DAYS AFTER HE, THE UN-DISGUISED PERP WAS RECORDED ON SURVEILLANCE VIDEO 3 SEPERATE TIMES WITHIN A 2HR PERIOD OF TIME ON 2/28 IN ANCHORAGE ALASKA!! !

and to beat all he had already given a 4 day heads up that this would be the means of how he would collect the ransom money he was demanding on 2/24!! !

Can anyone explain how or why that Keyes after showing himself on video withdrawing the ransom money that he had already told that he would do..that he still remained in Anchorage free and clear to roam and do whatever he'd like?

I mean lets even take the video out of the equation.. when Keyes made that first attempt at 10:13pm 2/28 from the ATM of AUSAFCU ON Credit Union Dr. for $600.. when that transaction popped up was it not AN ALL OUT ALERT? ?..Hello our banking debit systems these days are not delayed.. its instantaneous when the debit withdrawal is made it is IMMEDIATELY POSTED!! HOW THEN WAS THERE NOT AN ALL OUT ALERT WITH APB PUT OUT THAT THE PERP IS STILL IN ANCHORAGE AND JUST MADE ATTEMPT AT WITHDRAWING RANSOM MONEY!! WHY WAS LE NOT POSTED SAFELY OUT OF SITE AT EVERY ATM LOCATION IN ANCHORAGE?! ??!

Keyes would have been apprehended IMMEDIATELY.. as we know within those following 2 hours after the failed ATM attempt that Keyes went on to 2 other local Anchorage ATMs where he successfully withdrew $1000.00 cash.. AND THEN STAYED IN ANCHORAGE ANOTHER 7 DAYS BEFORE FLYING OUT ON 3/6 TO LAS VEGAS, NEVADA?! ??

 

[KrazyKatLadi]

Even with the newly released details, this makes no sense to me. What kidnapper/murderer/robber keeps a debit card that long before using it? And using her cell to send texts and local ATMs?? There has to be more. JMO

Were the toolboxes still on his truck when it was impounded?

 

[SmoothOperator]

Great! I got it family wedding 3/11.. the woman made 3 different statements regarding Keyes destination on 2/2.. family wedding.. out of state.. and now cruise.. I didn't specify date of wedding and cannot edit the wedding out of the 2/2 entry.. sorry.. the entry is correct that 2/2 they flew from Alaska to Houston and the duration was 15 days with them returning on 2/17..
+please disregard the words "family wedding" from the entry+..thanks

 

[ryanemsmom]

OK after A few hours sleep now in looking thru the timeline I constructed strictly from LE affidavits I have some serious questions..

Looking specifically at the timeframe below:
2/24-- Keyes sent text messages from Samantha's cell demanding ransom funds directed to be deposited into acct connected to stolen Visa debit card.

2/28-- 10:13pm(AST) $600.00 attempted withdrawal/declined for exceeding daily limit AUSAFCU 4300 Credit Union Dr. Anchorage AK

2/29--11:56pm(AST) *1hour 43mins after attempted 10:13 withdrawal* $500.00 withdrawn Denali Alaska FCU. 3020 Minnesota Dr. Anchorage AK

2/29--12:25am(AST) *31mins after 11:56 pm withdrawal* $500.00 withdrawn AUSAFCU 7575 DeBarr Rd. Anchorage AK

3/6---Keyes flies from Anchorage to Las Vegas NV -rents White Ford Focus at airport in NV
______________________________________
Beginning at the date 2/24 ..this is where Keyes makes initial contact with whom I assume is James and identifies himself as the abductor(where as on 2/2 when Keyes text from Sam's cell he was attempting to impersonate Sam for the purpose of buying time in concealing that she had been ABDUCTED).. ++ALSO NOTE THIS NOW MAKES SENSE WHY JAMES DID NOT IMMEDIATELY CALL LE TO REPORT SAM MISSING++..but back to 2/24 Keyes demands ransom and that the money be deposited to the acct for which he has the Visa debit that he stole from Sam/Duane's truck 3am of 2/2..

Keyes waits 4days after his ransom demand to make the first attempt to withdraw funds on 2/28..

QUESTION-- In seeing that Keyes used Sam's cell to send atleast one text message with his demands for ransom and the directives of how to supply the funds..well.. IMO there is no way this could have been accomplished without the cell phone having connected with the network signal in order to send the text message.. I understand Keyes easily could have removed Sam's battery from the moment he abducted her and only replaced battery and powered on when sending the text in early morning hours of 2/2(impersonating Sam to conceal abduction) and again on 2/24.. after sending each text I assume he again removed the battery.. nonetheless those two text messages sent would have had to connect with the network in sending a signal in order to have successfully sent the SMS/text messages..

Why then could not the text message sent on 2/24 have been tracked? I understand that he most likely did cut off her GPS(if she even had it on to begin with) but still the good old fashioned pings would have been available .. Keyes was in Anchorage when he sent text message of demands.. Keyes was still in Anchorage 4 days later when he withdrew the ransom money from banks in Anchorage.. and furthermore Keyes stayed an additional 7 more days AFTER HE WITHDREW $1000.00 From Anchorage ATMs at which Keyes wore NO DISGUISE/MASK FOR ANY OF THE ATM TRANSACTIONS MADE IN ANCHORAGE..

WTF?? We have Keyes using the victims cell on 2/24 not only emitting trackable pings from where he sent the text but we have the perp making contact with victims family CONFIRMING the abduction and making demand for ransom WITH THE SPECIFIC DIRECTIVE OF HOW TO DEPOSIT FUNDS FROM WHICH HE WOULD THEN WITHDRAW THE FUNDS WITH THE CARD STOLEN FROM SAM/DUANE'S TRUCK.. so now we do not just have a ping to track(which he could've driven a great distance replaced battery into cell, powered on, and sent text.. then immediately after text removing battery.so I get that may not have been of much help in locating Keyes) ...but come on now the perp has told you that he is going to withdraw funds with stolen debit..NOW JUST WAIT AND SEE...

Which as we know 4 days later that's exactly what Keyes did from right there in Anchorage, AK.. Keyes with NO DISGUISE/MASK WHATSOEVER entered 3 different bank ATMs at 3 different locations and withdrew $1,000. 00 cash.. AND THEN HE STUCK AROUND ANCHORAGE FOR AN ADDITIONAL 7 DAYS AFTER HE, THE UN-DISGUISED PERP WAS RECORDED ON SURVEILLANCE VIDEO 3 SEPERATE TIMES WITHIN A 2HR PERIOD OF TIME ON 2/28 IN ANCHORAGE ALASKA!! !

and to beat all he had already given a 4 day heads up that this would be the means of how he would collect the ransom money he was demanding on 2/24!! !

Can anyone explain how or why that Keyes after showing himself on video withdrawing the ransom money that he had already told that he would do..that he still remained in Anchorage free and clear to roam and do whatever he'd like?

I mean lets even take the video out of the equation.. when Keyes made that first attempt at 10:13pm 2/28 from the ATM of AUSAFCU ON Credit Union Dr. for $600.. when that transaction popped up was it not AN ALL OUT ALERT? ?..Hello our banking debit systems these days are not delayed.. its instantaneous when the debit withdrawal is made it is IMMEDIATELY POSTED!! HOW THEN WAS THERE NOT AN ALL OUT ALERT WITH APB PUT OUT THAT THE PERP IS STILL IN ANCHORAGE AND JUST MADE ATTEMPT AT WITHDRAWING RANSOM MONEY!! WHY WAS LE NOT POSTED SAFELY OUT OF SITE AT EVERY ATM LOCATION IN ANCHORAGE?! ??!

Keyes would have been apprehended IMMEDIATELY.. as we know within those following 2 hours after the failed ATM attempt that Keyes went on to 2 other local Anchorage ATMs where he successfully withdrew $1000.00 cash.. AND THEN STAYED IN ANCHORAGE ANOTHER 7 DAYS BEFORE FLYING OUT ON 3/6 TO LAS VEGAS, NEVADA?! ??

BBM - Anchorage is not a small town; there must be at least 150 ATM's here.

I agree with you that LE should have known something was up and could have caught him earlier.

My thoughts, maybe they knew through airline reservations he was planning on leaving the state. They could have wanted him to withdraw over $1,000 to trigger the federal charges, and leave the state. I don't know why it took so long after he left the state to nab him though. They should have been able to track that he rented a car and put out a nationwide APB.

My thoughts and opinions only.

 

[Joe Friday]

Even with the newly released details, this makes no sense to me. What kidnapper/murderer/robber keeps a debit card that long before using it? And using her cell to send texts and local ATMs?? There has to be more. JMO

Were the toolboxes still on his truck when it was impounded?

BBM

I think the boxes were on the truck when it was impounded, but they were off the truck when the truck was captured on the Home Depot's surveillance video in the parking lot the night Samantha was kidnapped judging from the statement I bolded in the following quote. The video might not of actully shown Samantha being forced into the truck, but could have captured a white pickup (without boxes) entering or exiting the parking lot around 8:00 PM that night.

LE was asking for anyone who had Keyes do work fro them to call. LE was also asking for anyone with information about Keyes's truck or for anyone who might of helped Keyes's remove the boxes from his truck to please call them also.

IMO the reason why LE was asking for anyone who had Keyes's do work for them in the past was to see if those people could remember if the boxes were on or off his truck at that time.

Keyes's truck must of been captured on video in the Home Depot parking lot without the racks installed or why would LE have made these requests and statements.

JMO

Police chief: Keyes involved in Samantha Koenig kidnapping


Investigators did, however, emphasize that they believe the public has a role to play in getting to the bottom of what happened to Koenig and where she might be. In particular, detectives want information from anyone who may have seen Keyes's white Chevy pickup in the weeks leading up to and following the abduction. The FBI believes the truck likely was without its heavy-duty construction rack and tool boxes the night Koenig vanished.

"It's reasonable to assume that that utility rack in (Keyes's) truck was difficult to get on and off that vehicle," FBI assistant special agent Darrin Jones said, "and we have reason to believe it may have been off the vehicle at the time of the (abduction)."

It's one of few concrete links publicly stated that place Keyes closer to the crime than merely using someone's stolen bank card.

http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/police-chief-keyes-involved-samantha-koenig-kidnapping

 

[SmoothOperator]

One last thing before I have to leave for a while.. I greatly wonder about Keyes state of mind?? Is he all there? I mean really the things this man did are as stupid as stupid gets as far as his getting away with an abduction, murder, ransom, fraud, and all the charges relating to the money stolen.. death penalty worthy charges yet the man did things that would lead directly to his being found, arrested, and an entire treasure Trove of easy to prove evidence to back up all those death penalty worthy charges.. so what gives? Is he legally insane? Is he just one the stupidest men to walk the earth? What?

And all for what? A little over 2 grand that he literally had to play where's Waldo in his state to state withdrawals of a few measly hundred at a time? .. its beyond all I've ever seen and criminals minds are deviant and sick and far too much for us to comprehend but I'm sorry Keyes is on a totally different playing field of ignorant, stupid, and certainly seems for nothing.. no sexual motive.. no real plan to extort large amount of money.. no sadist torturer.. what?

Yea there are lots of answers to our thousands of questions but does it really solve this case and just what the hell was really going on? IMO, no.. what is it?

 

[ConnectedSuitor]

The motive still does not make sense which is why I think more will come out about this case!

His actions make me think that maybe he is really clueless about banking and technology. Why did he withdraw $480 various times from the ATMs in the Lower 48? Did he think that $500 is some sort of trigger? He used banks and ATMs in very small towns, did he think they wouldn't have security cams? If I was going to use a stolen ATM I would use it in a bigger, busier city.

 

[Joe Friday]

BBM - Anchorage is not a small town; there must be at least 150 ATM's here.

I agree with you that LE should have known something was up and could have caught him earlier.

My thoughts, maybe they knew through airline reservations he was planning on leaving the state. They could have wanted him to withdraw over $1,000 to trigger the federal charges, and leave the state. I don't know why it took so long after he left the state to nab him though. They should have been able to track that he rented a car and put out a nationwide APB.

My thoughts and opinions only.

BBM

What makes you think LE even knew his name prior to arresting him in TX?

My understanding in that a white Ford Focus was seen in one of the bank surveillance video's he withdrew money from and that is how they tracked him to the motel he was staying at. He was also leaving a dotted road map for LE to follow with each ATM he tried withdrawing money from drawing a virtual line from Nevada to Texas. Remember there were several ATM's that he tried using but couldn't receive cash because the daily limit had been exceeded. (Which I would think the daily limit was set by the FBI low enough to keep him coming back for more money, but high enough to keep him on the hook. I'm surprised he didn't text that he would kill her if he couldn't get several thousand dollars at one time) Once LE knew what kind of car he was driving and which direction he was heading it was pretty easy to track and find him.

I honestly don't think LE had a clue as to who he was until they pulled him over for a traffic violation (ya right) and asked him for his ID.

JMO