AK - Samantha Koenig, 18, Anchorage, 1 Feb 2012 - #2

[Knox]

FYI; CB's Mom is saying "they" did interviews with KTUU and ADN.

 

[Knox]

ANCHORAGE - Wednesday afternoon, three-year-old Nevaeh Bird sat on an overstuffed couch in the front office of Rex Lamont Butler & Associates law firm.

“Can I have some water?” she asked softly, her face serious under severe, blonde bangs cut high over her eyes.

She was waiting for her father, 24-year-old Christopher Bird, who sat conferring with his mother and his attorney behind the closed door of an office down the hall.

They had come here a lot recently.

After 18-year-old Samantha Koenig was kidnapped from her work at Common Grounds Espresso coffee stand on the night of February 1, the internet came alive with speculation about her disappearance. Police said an armed man took her, and anonymous comments left on published news reports and rumors passed along via Facebook and Twitter began pointing at Bird.

http://www.ktva.com/home/top-storie...st-Pall-on-Koenig-Acquaintance-141257473.html

 

[bdawk20]

Now, I'm not saying I take CB's mom's version as gospel, but I must say I have long suspected that this was the story behind the restraining order, although I was hesitant to say so because I didn't want to appear to be "attacking" the victim:

Counts said the restraining order against her son had been filed after Bird had a brief relationship with Koenig in the fall of 2011, while Koenig was dating her current boyfriend.

“She was a nice girl,” said Counts, recalling the autumn fling. “When she came to my house she was very respectful. You know, she took her shoes off at the door. When she ate, she washed off her plate.”

Things fell apart after Koenig’s boyfriend discovered the relationship several months later. After Koenig filed for a restraining order against Bird, Counts said she contacted Butler’s law firm and handed over a series of text messages Koenig sent to Bird admitting the claims of sexual assault were false.

http://www.ktva.com/home/outbound-x...st-Pall-on-Koenig-Acquaintance-141257473.html

 

[CincinnatiKate]

thank you for he above post, I posted my opinion about a woman who would not go through with a restraining order AT the courthouse, the day of trial on page 2 of this thread I believe. I am really starting to believe she is a dramatic runaway.

 

[bdawk20]

I wonder what her bf thought of her not following through with that restraining order? I find it verrrry doubtful that she acknowledged to her bf that she lied about the assault. I would think it seriously affected some people's feelings about CB, that more than just her bf thought she should do something about it, and holding in the fact that it was untrue would have created alot of pressure on her....
That's a tough situation to get yourself out of without admitting the lie and making yourself look pretty bad.

 

[bdawk20]

Interesting. Someone had posted the article with CB's side of the story on her Help Find fb page last night, and sometime between then and now, they removed it. I know they only believe what they want to believe over there, but it seems to me that you are doing Sam a serious disservice by trying to shield people from the facts of that "assault". I am POSITIVE that as an 18 year old girl, she wasn't perfect, but they work awfully hard to make people believe she is. Are they wanting to find her, or do they want to get her elected into public office?? Often times it seems the latter. Maybe they think it would affect donations.....

 

[ak81]

He (CB) just got that new girlfriend so I think he is going to stay.

Just wondering how you found out about the new girlfriend.. Do you have her name? (If it's not allowed to post it here, could you maybe send it to me in a private message?)
Thanks!

 

[CincinnatiKate]

He announced it and who it was, on his FB in February.

Just wondering how you found out about the new girlfriend.. Do you have her name? (If it's not allowed to post it here, could you maybe send it to me in a private message?)
Thanks!

 

[ak81]

He announced it and who it was, on his FB in February.

His FB page is private. I'm not his FB friend.

 

[Knox]

Young people make mistakes. It's part of the learning curve of life and there is absolutely no shame in that. That said, I can understand why they don't want the story on the page. As they have stated many times, it is strictly a support page. If that is their intention, then why be surprised? Their point of view on the page is that Samantha is alive and will be coming home, they want her to see all the love and support people expressed for her.

I'm glad CB and his Mother finally spoke out, I felt he was a likely suspect and now I can put that to rest for the most part. But why hasn't APD made a public statement excluding him as a POI? They did say early on that they are investigating him, why not conclude the issue and clear him? James hasn't either, which he could easily have done with a short blip on his own personal FB Page.

I must say I am starting to wonder whether Sam disappeared willingly too. Primarily because of the way APD is conducting their investigation. But because we have so few facts, the odds are 50/50 (willingly left to abducted and murdered). One thing is for sure, if she left willingly I don't feel she has the sophistication, financial or emotion means to stay gone forever. It would only be a matter of time until she was found or called someone close to her.

 

[Knox]

Who in heaven's name is CB's Mom talking about on her fb page? Lying on national news? Anyone want to clarify that for me?

 

[bdawk20]

I agree that young people makes mistakes. Cheating on your bf might be a mistake, but you either own up to it, or deny, deny, deny. Accusing someone of a serious crime to cover for your mistake is a whole different animal, imo, and brings one's character and moral fiber into question regardless of if you are 18 or 68.....

 

[bdawk20]

Who in heaven's name is CB's Mom talking about on her fb page? Lying on national news? Anyone want to clarify that for me?

I don't know......I kinda wondered if it might be Sam's dad because he stated early on that she didn't follow through with the restraining order because she was "too afraid", although I don't know how CB's mom could know whether or not he knows the whole truth. She seems pretty fired up at whoever it is though!

 

[Knox]

I agree that young people makes mistakes. Cheating on your bf might be a mistake, but you either own up to it, or deny, deny, deny. Accusing someone of a serious crime to cover for your mistake is a whole different animal, imo, and brings one's character and moral fiber into question regardless of if you are 18 or 68.....

Yes, I won't disagree it is a very serious matter. Who knows where her head was when she made that decision. It must have seemed like an easy way out of her predicament at the time. But what runs through my mind, are all those cases we found. Clearly, others around her were very familiar with the court system and how to use it, KWIM?

 

[Knox]

I don't know......I kinda wondered if it might be Sam's dad because he stated early on that she didn't follow through with the restraining order because she was "too afraid", although I don't know how CB's mom could know whether or not he knows the whole truth. She seems pretty fired up at whoever it is though!

Ahhh, I had forgotten about that, you're probably right.

 

[sfbaynancydrew]

Considering Sam's dad alluded to (what we think) are prior sexual assaults, I would imagine one of the things he was talking about had to do with CB.

In my experience you can usually apply Occam's Razor to most of these theories...the simplest answer is usually the correct one. It seems more likely to me that she was assaulted in some way, felt threatened by CB, applied for the restraining order and then became too scared to deal with it. Her father has demonstrated repeatedly through his words she has experienced trauma in her life. She doesn't seem to have a history of false allegations against people (that I've seen in all of the rumor posts--which can be pretty brutal in terms of giving opinions).

I dunno...I think CB's Mom doesn't want to believe the worst in her son and she is scared too.

The whole thing is really sad.

 

[sfbaynancydrew]

FWIW she may have also went along with whatever CB said it an effort to placate him, especially if she was afraid of him. So if he's telling her, "admit you made it up" she may have just said, "fine, I made the whole thing up" just to make him go away.

 

[isamom]

Just to clarify some of the posts about that thread being removed on the Please Help Find Samantha Page, was not to hide information. Or have it sound like they were only posting what they wanted to.
The only reason why it was removed is because it started a big controversy between many, alot of people have there own opinions which is fine, but it did get out of hand and there for it was best to remove it until everyone could get their emotions under control. It wasnt the post that caused it to be removed it was the comments underneath it and the arguing that it was causing. Thanks everyone for the continued support. Have a great day.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Just to clarify some of the posts about that thread being removed on the Please Help Find Samantha Page, was not to hide information. Or have it sound like they were only posting what they wanted to.
The only reason why it was removed is because it started a big controversy between many, alot of people have there own opinions which is fine, but it did get out of hand and there for it was best to remove it until everyone could get their emotions under control. It wasnt the post that caused it to be removed it was the comments underneath it and the arguing that it was causing. Thanks everyone for the continued support. Have a great day.

The only problem I have with this is the fact that James & the other close supporters threw a fit about posts being removed on the original Missing FB profile, such a fit that the admins closed that account. So, how in the world can anybody in their right mind not question why the interview talk/thread was removed? I mean, even if there's bantering going on, at least she's being talked about. They are IMO doing Sam a disservice by not being completely forthright. Enough is enough. I sure hope she's ok bc people are seriously being turned off bc of the stuff going on right now. Remember that first FB account set up to bring awareness to Sam's disappearance? Well it's ironic that her dad & a few others had a problem with negative posts & donation stuff being removed, iirc it was said that James wanted nothing removed, not even negative comments & rumors, bc he thought there could be a shot that a tip would be in one of those comments, etc. Badmouthed the admin that started the page (I myself didn't like how she commented to James but now look - she was right) bc she removed negative rumors & his donation requests, yet he & his admin do the same thing on his Missing profile for Sam?

Pffft... Pot, meet kettle.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

I can't believe I'm suggesting this, especially watching the fiasco unfold in HaLeigh Cummings' case, but maybe a FB account should be set up and handled as a no holds barred but kept in order with dignified posts. Alot came out about HaLeigh's entire family when WS had that rumor thread, I mean ALOT. They started out as people that knew them but "heard" things, word around town, etc. Several people investigated the claims, including media, and some truth came out. In this situation, if Sam was involved in something illegal, it doesn't help her one bit for investigators to not be aware of that. Again - 3 schools, last one being alternative & they don't even accept applications until the applicant has been out of school for a certain amount of time. 3. Three. Can't let it go but wish I could. James, please tell us what you meant by "statistic". How is Sam a statistic?