AK - Samantha Koenig, 18, Anchorage, 1 Feb 2012 - #3

[CincinnatiKate]

I think the cell phone was in the hut, with her purse and her keys, in her cubby like her co worker said.

just my opinion.

 

[ryanemsmom]

I think the cell phone was in the hut, with her purse and her keys, in her cubby like her co worker said.

just my opinion.

If it was then I think it was on silent. Those huts are small, and if I were working a busy morning shift and heard non stop cellphone ringing coming from my messy closer's stuff in a cubby I would for sure answer it.

OR
They did hear it ring, answered it, told JK no, they hadn't heard from SK, in fact, her stuff was still there, the place was a mess and the money was gone. This could be what prompted the call to the owner...

My Opinion

 

[CincinnatiKate]

HERE is the video you asked about--video is halfway down the page... but this report says she did NOT know her kidnapper. and duane had a Freudian slip. this video confirms my personal theory about the pro-fit cap---- and EXONERATED JK as being involved...that man is a mess.


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlin...er-pleads-for-return-of-missing-teen-barista/

Thanks guys. I had seen the article, I was hoping to see the video again just to see it because I remember it seeming awkward.

 

[CincinnatiKate]

snipped by me--
Quote "OR
They did hear it ring, answered it, told JK no, they hadn't heard from SK, in fact, her stuff was still there, the place was a mess and the money was gone. This could be what prompted the call to the owner..."



I believe the phone was dead by then--(thinking like its me in her position)---I can believe the phone was on silent-or packed up in her purse--since she already knew her ride was on the way, and she had already talked to dad, why would she need it?

 

[bdawk20]

HERE is the video you asked about--video is halfway down the page... but this report says she did NOT know her kidnapper. and duane had a Freudian slip. this video confirms my personal theory about the pro-fit cap---- and EXONERATED JK as being involved...that man is a mess.


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlin...er-pleads-for-return-of-missing-teen-barista/

Hard to tell if DT says "him" or "them" when he quickly corrects himself and says "her". IMO, he said "them". SO, who else was he supposed to be picking up with her?

 

[CincinnatiKate]

i heard "him".


eta: I listened again... and this time I hear


" get 'em "

 

[ryanemsmom]

I believe the phone was dead by then--(thinking like its me in her position)---I can believe the phone was on silent-or packed up in her purse--since she already knew her ride was on the way, and she had already talked to dad, why would she need it?

BBM

When she hadn't called by late Wednesday night, the frantic father called her cell repeatedly.

'I called her cellphone until the battery finally died, and texted it and everything,' he said. 'It would ring until it went to voice mail. And then, noon yesterday, it just went to voice mail, straight out.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2096685/Samantha-Koenig-missing-Teen-barista-abducted-coffee-shop-armed-kidnapper.html

 

[ryanemsmom]

Hit post before I was finished

This tells me her phone was on and receiving calls until noon Thursday. Either her phone was in the hut the entire time and there is no sense in researching pings, or there is some reason LE isn't talking about where the cell phone could have gone.

 

[CincinnatiKate]

I had a lightbulb moment:



.... in the ABC video the anchor said cops think its a stranger... and with DT's "I went to get 'em"

makes me think there was after hours "business" with a coffee customer------a regular--someone Sam could treat or someone who would want a free coffee while they waited on DT. DT was late to the meeting and no one was there. He doesn't call anyone because he assumes maybe shes making the deal w/out him, perhaps cheating with secret customer and is more angry than scared.....

 

[bdawk20]

snipped by me--
Quote "OR
They did hear it ring, answered it, told JK no, they hadn't heard from SK, in fact, her stuff was still there, the place was a mess and the money was gone. This could be what prompted the call to the owner..."



I believe the phone was dead by then--(thinking like its me in her position)---I can believe the phone was on silent-or packed up in her purse--since she already knew her ride was on the way, and she had already talked to dad, why would she need it?

In one of the links I posted (maybe 10 posts back?) her dad said the phone finally started going right to vm at noon the next day.
DT said he spoke to her minutes before she was abducted, so he may have been her last contact, but I agree with you - I think once he called/texted and said he was on his way, she put the phone in her purse. I too can believe the phone was on silent or maybe vibrate, especially if she texted more than talked which for an 18 yo, I think is more than likely. I'm not a person that is glued to my cell all the time, but I almost always have it on silent because if I don't it'll end up obnoxiously loudly ringing somewhere when I least want it to!

 

[bdawk20]

I had a lightbulb moment:



.... in the ABC video the anchor said cops think its a stranger... and with DT's "I went to get 'em"

makes me think there was business with a coffee customer------a regular--someone Sam could treat or someone who would want a free coffee while they waited on DT. DT was late to the meeting and no one was there.

Good thought!

 

[Joe Friday]

My main point was the phone was on and receiving service so IF the phone was not left in the hut LE should be able to pin point the phones location when the calls were received.

They interviewed the person who supposedly opened that morning. Don't you think she would have said the phone rang and I answered it and talked to JK if that is what happen if the phone was left in the hut and rang?

She told us everything else about the cups being left on the counter and the alarm not being set, ect. I'm sure she would have mentioned that she answered the phone if in fact it rang while she was working that morning. If LE told her not to talk about the phone they would have told her not to talk about the other stuff she mentioned like the alarm.

JMO

 

[CincinnatiKate]

Hit post before I was finished

This tells me her phone was on and receiving calls until noon Thursday. Either her phone was in the hut the entire time and there is no sense in researching pings, or there is some reason LE isn't talking about where the cell phone could have gone.

TY, Clearly there is at least 6 hours (6am opening of hut, and noon when phone dies) that we are unclear where her cell phone is, but we do know it was receiving calls.

 

[ak81]

Hard to tell if DT says "him" or "them" when he quickly corrects himself and says "her". IMO, he said "them". SO, who else was he supposed to be picking up with her?

That's what I posted yesterday.. him stumbling on that them/her thing, and then saying "it was a mess".. it just all sounded strange to me. But I suppose it could've just been nerves from being on camera.. and the stress of the whole situation. I don't know. Something about it just doesn't feel right.

 

[bdawk20]

That's what I posted yesterday.. him stumbling on that them/her thing, and then saying "it was a mess".. it just all sounded strange to me. But I suppose it could've just been nerves from being on camera.. and the stress of the whole situation. I don't know. Something about it just doesn't feel right.

Thanks ak, I knew something about the them/her seemed familiar but I didn't know why! I think that was when we also talked about DT saying Sam was "good-hearted, and didn't deserve this". For someone who says so little, ALL of it comes out so weird. I think most recently on the video from SamStock he said something about her "being with him every night"....

 

[southern_comfort]

from US News link http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...-of-abducted-barista18-pleads-for-her-return:
snipped by me:


Samantha's boyfriend Dwayne says he spoke with her just minutes before she was abducted and says "everything was fine." He was supposed to give her a ride home from work.

"I had the only means of transportation for her and I got off work and went to go get her, and she wasn't there. It was a mess," says Dwayne.
(this statement means he was driving (iirc)the maroon short bed truck)


why does the media keep spelling his name wrong???????????
where does duane work, he must get off at 830-ish as well. Maybe she rendezvoused for that 30 or 40 minutes while waiting on DT and he caught her?

(But then I remember LE says they have no reason to suspect DT)

but WHAT WAS A MESS????? if the shop WAS closed up, he can't see the "mess" inside. if the shop was not "closed up" he would have seen the two cups of coffee----hmmmm.


I want to know if Sam made that coffee for him (like did it have a lid and was it right next to the second cup ready to be carried out to her "ride", or was it set far apart like someone was supposed to come in and drink it...

Re: the "mess":

I don't know if it was Freudian slip...

I think he may have meant that it was a mess, as in, a complete communications breakdown that caused people to not be where they said they were going to be when they were supposed to be there and that things got all messed up and his girlfriend went missing... a "clusterf&*k, if you will.

 

[ryanemsmom]

http://www.adn.com/2012/02/03/v-printer/2298379/police-continue-search-for-missing.html
She left a note??? I think that this might be the most accurate statement IMO, since it was published Friday, probably made by MO the day she was discovered missing.

Sorry to quote myself (hehe) but I keep coming back to this this afternoon. She left a note for the opening barista. Unless this was very well planned out I don't believe it was staged. I am trying to walk myself through her last hour (minutes?) at the stand. She closed up the windows (8:00 pm closing time), made two cups of coffee (could have been done earlier but I would think they would get cold), wrote a note to opener, got call from boyfriend stating he would be late (IIRC, this was stated to be the reason he spoke to her, can't find a source now so purely me), then was abducted. These things had to have happened very close together since LE states she was abducted at roughly 8:00 pm. I would think they would have stated 8:30, or even 8:15 if it was closer to either of those times.

I just can't wrap my brain around why she let someone in the stand. The only alternative I can think of is she left to take out the trash, and was abducted at that point? My brain hurts

 

[ak81]

My main point was the phone was on and receiving service so IF the phone was not left in the hut LE should be able to pin point the phones location when the calls were received.

They interviewed the person who supposedly opened that morning. Don't you think she would have said the phone rang and I answered it and talked to JK if that is what happen if the phone was left in the hut and rang?

She told us everything else about the cups being left on the counter and the alarm not being set, ect. I'm sure she would have mentioned that she answered the phone if in fact it rang while she was working that morning. If LE told her not to talk about the phone they would have told her not to talk about the other stuff she mentioned like the alarm.

JMO

IMO, she had her phone on her, in her pocket, when she was taken. If it was in her purse, or left with her belongings, I would think the first thing the opening barista would've done is pick up the phone, find the contact # for her dad or Duane and call them and ask why her stuff was here and to make sure everything was ok. If a purse was left behind, you know they opened it to look for a phone.
I think in either scenerio, whether she was taken, or left with someone she knew, she had the phone until the abductor made her hand it over and then got rid of it. (Or IF she left on her own, she got rid of it herself so she couldn't be tracked.)
I don't know any teenager who doesn't have their phone in their pocket at all times..

 

[bdawk20]

Re: the "mess":

I don't know if it was Freudian slip...

I think he may have meant that it was a mess, as in, a complete communications breakdown that caused people to not be where they said they were going to be when they were supposed to be there and that things got all messed up and his girlfriend went missing... a "clusterf&*k, if you will.

I think the slip was when DT said "I went to pick 'em, uh, her up, and she was gone". Sounds like he says "them", like he was picking up more than one person.

 

[joslmaman]

I definitely hear "them" instead of her as well.

It's hard to say- You can imagine at that point he had likely had no sleep, and was a complete "mess." But it sure seems...strange.. especially when paired with all the other random things he has said on camera.

Southern comfort, I took the mess just as you did.