AK - Samantha Koenig, 18, Anchorage, 1 Feb 2012 - #3

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  • #341
I think CB is the type of person who retaliates. I find it hard to believe he didn't retaliate against having sexual assault charges brought?

I had a neighbor bring charges against my dog that were false, and she never showed in court either, and I am still holding a grude. jus sayin'.

I don't think he was ever charged. Sam filed for a civil order of protection. Which I think would be different than if she talked with LE and they filed charges. Normally in a case with charges LE would file for an order of protection for the victim.
 
  • #342
The last bit in the Anchorage paper was 3/3 or 3/4 and that was just the bit about the guy giving away his strip club...so apparently there is just nothing to report than can be backed up. JMO

Makes for a very limited discussion doesn't it?

James is holding a press conference tomorrow though, so hopefully the mainstream media will be there to cover it for us.
 
  • #343
It is frustrating not to be able to discuss the rumors, but that is why WS is 100% better than other sites, IMO. We just have to wait for real news...JMO
 
  • #344
hi everyone, my opinion only:
If I was going to kidnap someone for ransom, it would not be James Koenig's daughter. Unless he's some kind of crime boss (WHO HAS NO RAP SHEET?), this guy doesnt have life-in-prison money.
Just my opinion, but if this guy is involved in some kind of fake-out, he ought to get an oscar.
SK may or may not have a checkered past with both men and substances; just like many teenagers.
On the other hand, SK has already falsley accused one man of victimizing her, and if Chelsea Hoffman's blog posts are true, she was very duplicitious in the days leading up to her alleged abduction, and this must be taken into consideration.
APD has already cleared CB, and this is 2012. 40 or 50 years ago, this guy would have been indicted for murder already. I have a hard time believing local PD doesnt have a darn good reason for not releasing the security vid. Even in a place like Alaska, they're probably as professional as cops anywhere.
I believe that if she is not voluntarily missing, neither her father, nor CB has anything to do with it.
How many teenagers have gotten in over their heads?
 
  • #345
Makes for a very limited discussion doesn't it?

James is holding a press conference tomorrow though, so hopefully the mainstream media will be there to cover it for us.

I wonder if CB and his mom will show up so they can hash it out with JK?
 
  • #346
I wonder if CB and his mom will show up so they can hash it out with JK?

Not a good idea, at all. But hope some of the venting brings about some new leads.

Maybe whoever took her is just way in over their head. Their intent was to scare her or someone close to her, but this case took on a life of it's own pretty quickly. Maybe now they are just hunkering down and looking for a way out. That's the optimist in me, looking for a way for Sam to still be alive after 36 days.
 
  • #347
ADN News Articles / Videos In Ascending Order:

Police seek info about missing barista
Friday, February 3, 2012 at 11:00 AM
http://adn.com/2012/02/02/2297050/3barrista-missing.html#storylink=misearch

Video shows missing barista was abducted
Saturday, February 4, 2012 at 12:09 AM
http://adn.com/2012/02/03/2298379/police-continue-search-for-missing.html#storylink=misearch

Samantha Koenig search
Saturday, February 4, 2012 at 4:42 PM
http://adn.com/2012/02/03/2298849/samantha-koenig-search.html#storylink=misearch

VIDEO: Father of barista pleads for return
Saturday, February 4, 2012 at 6:28 PM
http://community.adn.com/?q=adn/node/159654#storylink=misearch

Barista's father to captors: Let her go
Monday, February 6, 2012 at 7:41 AM
http://adn.com/2012/02/06/2302662/baristas-father-to-captors-let.html#storylink=misearch

Police issue appeal for help in Koenig abduction
Monday, February 6, 2012 at 3:12 PM
http://adn.com/2012/02/06/2303208/police-issue-appeal-for-help-in.html#storylink=misearch

Reward for abducted barista's return grows to $41,000
Monday, February 6, 2012 at 6:15 PM
http://adn.com/2012/02/04/2300441/father-offers-reward-for-baristas.html#storylink=misearch

Search for kidnapped barista Samantha Koenig
Monday, February 6, 2012 at 9:04 PM
http://adn.com/2012/02/06/2303494/search-for-kidnapped-barista-samantha.html#storylink=misearch

Police seek public help in finding barista
Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 10:12 AM
http://adn.com/2012/02/06/2303555/police-now-seeking-publics-help.html#storylink=misearch

So-called 'psychics' try to claim Koenig reward
Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 12:51 PM
http://adn.com/2012/02/07/2304846/so-called-psychics-try-to-claim.html#storylink=misearch

Correction
Tuesday, February 7, 2012 at 6:56 PM
http://adn.com/2012/02/07/2305324/correction.html#storylink=misearch

FBI assists police in search for abducted Anchorage barista
Wednesday, February 8, 2012 at 7:47 AM
http://adn.com/2012/02/07/2305513/fbi-assists-search-for-abducted.html#storylink=misearch

Missing Alaska barista: A Q&A with Anchorage police
Wednesday, February 8, 2012 at 2:15 PM
http://community.adn.com/?q=adn/node/159690#storylink=misearch

Police report some progress in case of missing barista
Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 5:12 PM
http://adn.com/2012/02/08/2307318/police-report-some-progress-in.html#storylink=misearch

Candlelight vigil set for missing barista
Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 11:39 PM
http://adn.com/2012/02/09/2309309/candlelight-vigil-set-for-missing.html#storylink=misearch

Abduction makes baristas' vulnerability real
Friday, February 10, 2012 at 6:56 PM
http://community.adn.com/?q=adn/node/159694#storylink=misearch

Police talk to potential witnesses in missing barista case
Saturday, February 11, 2012 at 12:10 PM
http://adn.com/2012/02/10/2311073/police-talk-to-potential-witnesses.html#storylink=misearch

Candlelight vigil for Samantha Koenig
Saturday, February 11, 2012 at 10:03 PM
http://adn.com/2012/02/11/2312927/candlelight-vigil-for-samantha.html#storylink=misearch

Hundreds gather in vigil for abducted Anchorage woman
Saturday, February 11, 2012 at 10:30 PM
http://adn.com/2012/02/11/2312949/hundreds-gather-in-vigil-for-missing.html#storylink=misearch

Police report still finding new leads in search for barista
Wednesday, February 15, 2012 at 1:03 PM
http://adn.com/2012/02/14/2317875/police-report-still-finding-new.html#storylink=misearch

O'Malley column: Armed baristas won't fix problem of male predators
Wednesday, February 15, 2012 at 9:33 PM
http://community.adn.com/adn/node/159791#storylink=misearch

Baristas attend police safety class Wednesday, February 22, 2012 at 11:21 AM
http://adn.com/2012/02/22/2330818/anchorage-baristas-attend-police.html#storylink=misearch

Anchorage police still hopeful in search for missing barista
Wednesday, February 22, 2012 at 6:54 PM
http://adn.com/2012/02/21/2329773/anchorage-police-still-hopeful.html#storylink=misearch

Samantha Koenig's supporters trying to increase reward fund
Sunday, February 26, 2012 at 10:40 PM
http://adn.com/2012/02/26/2338855/samantha-koenigs-supporters-trying.html#storylink=misearch

Police making headway in missing barista case Thursday, March 1, 2012 at 7:07 AM
http://adn.com/2012/03/01/2345627/police-making-headway-in-missing.html#storylink=misearch

Search for Koenig continues a month after her abduction
Thursday, March 1, 2012 at 1:36 PM
http://adn.com/2012/02/29/2344750/search-for-koenig-continues-a.html#storylink=misearch

For the right tip, The Showboat is yours
Saturday, March 3, 2012 at 10:33 PM
http://adn.com/2012/02/29/2344750/search-for-koenig-continues-a.html#storylink=misearch

Wow, Jersey Girl!
This is such an impressive, organized set of information regarding Sam!
Thank you so much!:tyou:
 
  • #348
http://norml.org/laws/penalties/item/alaska-penalties

The state has decriminalized marijuana to some degree. Typically, decriminalization means no prison time or criminal record for first-time possession of a small amount for personal consumption. The conduct is treated like a minor traffic violation.

Marijuana Penalties in the State of Alaska.

IMO, most "dealers" here are small potatoes. You can have up to 24 (!!) plants in your home and as long as you are the only one using it in your own home, you are fine.

I had to google image 1 oz of MJ since I am not into that, and it's a sandwich ziploc bag full pretty much! That is a lot of weed that you can possess with no penalty.
 
  • #349
My mind wondered to that big drug bust made not too long after Sam disappeared. The driver was supposed to meet someone in Anchorage, but got pulled over before it took place and they searched her SUV. IIRC, the drugs were coming in from Fairbanks. I have to go back and find a link.

http://www.newsminer.com/view/full_story/17654619/article-3-Fairbanks-men-indicted-for-dealing-large-volumes-of-cocaine?instance=home_news_window_left_top_1

The indictment was February 22, but the bust was January 26th. The drugs were going from Anchorage to Fairbanks, the runner was arrested in Anchorage while making the transfer.

Now for some My Opinion Only - Not saying SK was doing hard drugs, but could she have gotten involved as a fringe player with some hardcore drugs. Maybe she was supposed to transfer some drugs after her shift at the coffee stand, she let the person in, made the transfer, the person saw the camera and freaked out, dragged SK out of the shop and ran with her. Like it was tossed about earlier, now it has gotten out of control, and they don't know how they can let her go without getting caught. This could be why LE doesn't want to release the video, because it may show a transfer of illegal substances. Knowledge that the kidnap victim was participating in a crime could very well "taint the jury".
 
  • #350
Hi everyone, I've been a lurker for quite some time and can't seem to shake something from my mind. Do we know anything about SK's Facebook or myspace pages? Were either public at one point and then went private? If they were, I wonder who would have access to her pages? Who would have made them private? I wonder if LE have accessed these to see if there were any odd private messages she had received.
 
  • #351
http://norml.org/laws/penalties/item/alaska-penalties



Marijuana Penalties in the State of Alaska.

IMO, most "dealers" here are small potatoes. You can have up to 24 (!!) plants in your home and as long as you are the only one using it in your own home, you are fine.

I had to google image 1 oz of MJ since I am not into that, and it's a sandwich ziploc bag full pretty much! That is a lot of weed that you can possess with no penalty.

A FULL ziplock would be more like 5-8ozs depending on the type of weed.

24 plants?!? Maybe I'll move to Alaska... :D
 
  • #352
Makes for a very limited discussion doesn't it?

James is holding a press conference tomorrow though, so hopefully the mainstream media will be there to cover it for us.

Where was a press conference mentioned?
 
  • #353
Hi everyone, I've been a lurker for quite some time and can't seem to shake something from my mind. Do we know anything about SK's Facebook or myspace pages? Were either public at one point and then went private? If they were, I wonder who would have access to her pages? Who would have made them private? I wonder if LE have accessed these to see if there were any odd private messages she had received.

Hi runrgirl :welcome:

Early on a few myspaces were located for Sam, but all were private, so we weren't able to see much, and as far as I know a fb for her was never found. The idea has been floated that perhaps she did have a fb account that was deleted before she went missing, but idk. I think LE could get access to a deleted page, because nothing on the web is ever really, truly "deleted", I don't think.
 
  • #354
I may be thinking too much at this point, but what about this:
What if LE won't release the video and believe it could "taint a jury pool" because although she WAS taken by force, it shows her doing something suspicious beforehand? I know LE has said they have "never characterized" the abductor as being someone she knew, but I think alot of what they say is specifically worded so as not to give away what they saw on that tape. What if the abductor walked in, and she handed him money...after which, he displayed a weapon and the whole thing took a turn, so-to-speak. Perhaps she took a sum of money from someone, in order to buy drugs which she could have then turned around and sold to make that and even more money back, and the deal went bad?
This might explain why they won't release the video. If the public saw her engaging in an exchange of money or drugs, I guess that could definitely have the potential to taint a jury pool if public perception of the crime became "well, she put herself in a position for something bad to happen.", kwim?
 
  • #355
I may be thinking too much at this point, but what about this:
What if LE won't release the video and believe it could "taint a jury pool" because although she WAS taken by force, it shows her doing something suspicious beforehand? I know LE has said they have "never characterized" the abductor as being someone she knew, but I think alot of what they say is specifically worded so as not to give away what they saw on that tape. What if the abductor walked in, and she handed him money...after which, he displayed a weapon and the whole thing took a turn, so-to-speak. Perhaps she took a sum of money from someone, in order to buy drugs which she could have then turned around and sold to make that and even more money back, and the deal went bad?
This might explain why they won't release the video. If the public saw her engaging in an exchange of money or drugs, I guess that could definitely have the potential to taint a jury pool if public perception of the crime became "well, she put herself in a position for something bad to happen.", kwim?

Very plausible and good thinking. :)
 
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  • #357
Lots of craziness... The past few days. It is hard what to think anymore. Just keep hoping that someone submits the right tip.
 
  • #358
Anyone know what time this press conference is supposed to take place or is that just a rumor?
 
  • #359
Anyone know what time this press conference is supposed to take place or is that just a rumor?

There is one today and it is supposed to be at 3:00
 
  • #360
Anyone know what time this press conference is supposed to take place or is that just a rumor?

isamom posted at 3 just as I was posting I didn't know of one. Isamom, where is it going to be held?
 
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