AK - Samantha Koenig, 18, Anchorage, 1 Feb 2012 - #5

[joslmaman]

Can anyone share any examples that would explain peoples roles as suspect/ person of interest?

I thought a POI would be someone that they want to get some answers from, but when he was arrested their statements seemed quite certain he was the only one they were looking at. They immediately asked for the public's help with any information about him.

Thoughts? Can someone be a POI being looked at this closely and end up not involved??

 

[GutFeeling!]

I know this has been tossed about before, but what if they mean another kidnapping? Just be pause he allegedly committed device fraud related to SK doesn't mean the suspected kidnapping was hers.

Nothing has been said about the fraud part being related to Samantha.
If it was a regular abduction why would they send down cops working on the case? And where is the other abduction in the news? And why the 40 warrants served and no news about an abduction?


I highly doubt the fraud part is related to Samantha, that could have easily been sealed if it was. There is nothing to say police have to say why someone is being held.

By them not talking it opens the doors to all kinds of speculation (look at us LOL)

I don't mean to sound argumentative with you ... just doesn't add up. Nothing adds up in this whole case. Even the media .... they get a message on their page from someone knowing his whereabouts since the first of february and never make mention of it.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Can anyone share any examples that would explain peoples roles as suspect/ person of interest?

I thought a POI would be someone that they want to get some answers from, but when he was arrested their statements seemed quite certain he was the only one they were looking at. They immediately asked for the public's help with any information about him.

Thoughts? Can someone be a POI being looked at this closely and end up not involved??

Sometimes.

 

[GutFeeling!]

IK gets arrested on a Tuesday, nothing is announced until Thursday. If the information he has is THAT good and makes them THAT much closer to finding this child you'd think they would be shouting it from rooftops.

At this stage I am hoping Samantha is part of this - like an attention seeking over dramatized runaway so we can all be angry at her and she goes home safe to the face the consequences.

 

[GutFeeling!]

Can anyone share any examples that would explain peoples roles as suspect/ person of interest?

I thought a POI would be someone that they want to get some answers from, but when he was arrested their statements seemed quite certain he was the only one they were looking at. They immediately asked for the public's help with any information about him.

Thoughts? Can someone be a POI being looked at this closely and end up not involved??

Yes a POI can become not involved. They can also go from POI to suspect status. the fact that they came all the way to Texas to get this guy sounds to me they have pretty decent suspicions, otherwise the taxpayers of anchorage are going to be bloody angry - especilly when Texas LE sends them a bill too lol

just because an Alaskan cop has said "we believe" doesn't automatically mean a Texan cop will act, that is because of different laws that apply to different states. To start with, when the cop in Texas had his suspicions and IK's name was run, the first thing would be contacting Anchorage to see if they were willing to extradite. Obviously they were in this case.

the same applies if there is a warrant on you for an aoutstanding ticket. The department that issued the ticket has to be willing to pay for extradition. he knows something worth their while but I still think, :moo: only, that he is a small fish that can lead to the bigger fish.

 

[GutFeeling!]

I'm guessing they mean linking him to her prior to this?

I am just saying the story contrdicts itself. It is from 2 news sources but when you do a story like that make it clear.

this case is full of so many questions because no one is asking them and if they are it's time to use a few "Police would not comment on ...." - at least we know the question has been asked.

In this case he was called a suspect and PIO by two different agencies. Would have just taken a "It has been confirmed by APD that Keyes has been taken into custody as a person of interest. It was reported earlier, in error, that Keyes was a suspect in the case."

The stories leave more questions unanswered than they actually answer. Lately it has just been a huge rehash of stories past.

 

[z560]

The news media in Alaska is generally not very good. There are a few people here and there who are good at what they do but for the most part the media institutions here are substandard.

I think that's been part of the problem with this case. Things happen like the news media starting to call Samantha's abduction an "apparent abduction" and we don't know if that means that law enforcement is backing off her definitely being abducted or if some flunky journalist just thought "apparent abduction" sounded good.

I hate to say it as an Alaskan, but part of the reason why this case is so odd is that the local media and the APD just aren't all that good at what they do.

 

[cluciano63]

The news media in Alaska is generally not very good. There are a few people here and there who are good at what they do but for the most part the media institutions here are substandard.

I think that's been part of the problem with this case. Things happen like the news media starting to call Samantha's abduction an "apparent abduction" and we don't know if that means that law enforcement is backing off her definitely being abducted or if some flunky journalist just thought "apparent abduction" sounded good.

I hate to say it as an Alaskan, but part of the reason why this case is so odd is that the local media and the APD just aren't all that good at what they do.

I have been asking for a while who used the word "apparent"-it sounds like a media term to me...I can't really believe LE said that, if they saw what we have heard they saw, on the infamous video.

I still think this guy is the one, on his own, for sexual purposes, and will probably never admit it. Hope LE has lots of evidence. JMO

 

[GutFeeling!]

The news media in Alaska is generally not very good. There are a few people here and there who are good at what they do but for the most part the media institutions here are substandard.

I think that's been part of the problem with this case. Things happen like the news media starting to call Samantha's abduction an "apparent abduction" and we don't know if that means that law enforcement is backing off her definitely being abducted or if some flunky journalist just thought "apparent abduction" sounded good.

I hate to say it as an Alaskan, but part of the reason why this case is so odd is that the local media and the APD just aren't all that good at what they do.

I couldn't agree more. I have also noticed that the newspaper will just change the story. I know that this is 2012 and that the internet affords us all kinds of shortcuts - like getting the news out there quicker. BUT if you make an error or your source makes an error, it should be a correction - just like in the newspaper.

I HATE doing corrections and that is why I check stories over and over again lol To me a correction is a fail on my part.
The other thing I have noticed is a lot of stories have too much information in them which becomes confusing to the reader. They never seem to do a main story and a few sidebars to get other facts in without taking away from the main.

The old who what where why and how has to be answered in every story. I am not blaming the reporter as much as I am the editor. Looks like spelling is checked, grammar is ok, but facts are all over the place.

TV stations are different, they need to cramp the whole story into at most 30 seconds, but they have film to help them out.

But I am anal and a virgo - perfectionism at my work is what I aim for (but not here lol this is my hobby)

 

[GutFeeling!]

I still think this guy is the one, on his own, for sexual purposes, and will probably never admit it. Hope LE has lots of evidence. JMO

I believe that he is the little fish in a bigger story. he has waived rights for bond and everything, he even took a court appointed attorney and will do the same in Alaska.

I think drugs are involved somewhere and I think keyes was trying to make some easy money.

I was thinking of his girlfriend and daughter today.

I heard Samantha's grandparents were in the lower states on holiday but not sure where I read or heard it. Anyone have any ideas?

 

[akmama]

@GutFeeling. I read that also, the grandfather had left on vacation, not sure the source! I hate that!!

 

[Snowbunny]

I believe that he is the little fish in a bigger story. he has waived rights for bond and everything, he even took a court appointed attorney and will do the same in Alaska.

I think drugs are involved somewhere and I think keyes was trying to make some easy money.

I was thinking of his girlfriend and daughter today.

I heard Samantha's grandparents were in the lower states on holiday but not sure where I read or heard it. Anyone have any ideas?

I totally agree with you. I think Keyes is just the tip of the iceburg here and he may hold the key to break this case wide open. I've always had the feeling that there are bigger fish to fry in this case because there are just too many things that don't add up. This guy just doesn't strike me as a serial preditor but more as an opportunist to make a buck. JMO

 

[GutFeeling!]

I totally agree with you. I think Keyes is just the tip of the iceburg here and he may hold the key to break this case wide open. I've always had the feeling that there are bigger fish to fry in this case because there are just too many things that don't add up. This guy just doesn't strike me as a serial preditor but more as an opportunist to make a buck. JMO

I just hope the APD know what they are doing and this isn't their chance to bust a big drug ring or something else at the expense of Samantha's safety. If that is gthe case then every cop working on this case and knowing that should be fired, from the Chief down.

 

[GutFeeling!]

@GutFeeling. I read that also, the grandfather had left on vacation, not sure the source! I hate that!!

LOL If I need to quote my source I'll link people to you "Ask akmama - she read it too' lol

 

[katydid23]

I just hope the APD know what they are doing and this isn't their chance to bust a big drug ring or something else at the expense of Samantha's safety. If that is gthe case then every cop working on this case and knowing that should be fired, from the Chief down.

That is my main theory right now. I know of a couple cases where young defendants got roped into becoming informants as a way to get their own arrests undone. And in one case the young teen was killed in the process.[ I don't remember her name but I will try and find it to link it. ]

But IIRC, they convinced her to go and make another drug buy and the dealers figured it out because she was so nervous. And they took her out and shot her and buried her.

 

[Ransom]

I believe that he is the little fish in a bigger story. he has waived rights for bond and everything, he even took a court appointed attorney and will do the same in Alaska.

I think drugs are involved somewhere and I think keyes was trying to make some easy money.

I was thinking of his girlfriend and daughter today.

I heard Samantha's grandparents were in the lower states on holiday but not sure where I read or heard it. Anyone have any ideas?

"comments" under an article that was posted.

 

[GutFeeling!]

That is my main theory right now. I know of a couple cases where young defendants got roped into becoming informants as a way to get their own arrests undone. And in one case the young teen was killed in the process.[ I don't remember her name but I will try and find it to link it. ]

But IIRC, they convinced her to go and make another drug buy and the dealers figured it out because she was so nervous. And they took her out and shot her and buried her.

Wouldn't there be sme kind of paper trail if Samantha was working off an arrest though?

i can believe it would happen though, I'd call it lazy police work. Their job is not to put itty bitty folk in more danger.

 

[katydid23]

Wouldn't there be sme kind of paper trail if Samantha was working off an arrest though?

i can believe it would happen though, I'd call it lazy police work. Their job is not to put itty bitty folk in more danger.

Yes, but the cops might not make it public, not yet anyway. It would have been very hush hush.

 

[akmama]

Ok so I was reading some comments on a news article and someone else had the initial idea, but it got me thinking, what if SK had lapsed back into a serious drug problem, and she had stolen the money from her father. I've seen the story about a mother that actually had her daughter forcibly removed from the country, to Europe somewhere to completely remove her from the situation, so far away she would have noone and nowhere to run away to. What if stealing the money was the last straw and JK felt he needed to do something drastic to get her out of her situation, maybe even with force. Now this would be expensive, to pull off and maintain her somewhere far away, to possibly save her life. Now, maybe to raise money to help "save her", this reward fund came to be. I think a father, who knows his daughter is actually safe, feeling he's doing the only thing he can do to help her, might do anything that he feels might help her. Just throwing it out there, about every other scenario has been mentioned.

 

[GutFeeling!]

I can't believe that. Firstly he doesn't look that devious, and I couldn't see him pulling off something like that as the only thing to do. Nope ... can't go there lol sorry