AL AL - Brittney Wood, 19, Mobile, 31 May 2012 - #13

[buffetoflies]

question: Is there a thread for the trials of all of these people? I heard that wendy was on trial now. I had a heck of a time figuring out where this thread ran off as it is...

 

[*Lash*]

question: Is there a thread for the trials of all of these people? I heard that wendy was on trial now. I had a heck of a time figuring out where this thread ran off as it is...

No dedicated thread for the trials. Wendy's trial was last week. She was found GUILTY If you go back a few pages on this thread you will find a couple of days of discussion. You can also go to these two links from Al.com. They did an awesome job following Wendy's trial both days. They kept the public updated through the whole trial.

Day One-
http://www.al.com/news/mobile/index.ssf/2014/12/incest_children_used_for_sex_a.html#incart_river

Day Two-
http://www.al.com/news/mobile/index..._crimes_involving_i.html#incart_story_package

 

[Willow Knight]

(Snipped for clarity, thank you)

I still go in circles about the why & all who were involved in "disappearing" Brittney. My thinking of the moment says there was jealousy from the older females because Brittney made decisions to stay around donnie willingly. She wasn't a small child that had to be forced or coercied (any more as she was when she was younger) I think that's why she was thought to be donnie's favorite, she was way more attractive than any other adult females involved, though I bet bff jenn thinks she is. Maybe once wwh talked to LE that night she went to see donnie but found Brittney & donnie physically involved then wwh lost it. Then I think his suicide could be true from the guilt (losing Brittney)Why not disappear the other same aged people involved, if they were afraid of what Brittney could say, wouldn't they be afraid of donnie Jr., and derek? IMO the voice mails wwh erased were from donnie frantically looking for Brittney. Young people dont leave voice mails. Maybe donnie wanted the whole thing to fall on wwh & mw because he was mad they had taken Brittney from him?? This still leaves where Brittney ended up. That answer lies w/ the twins & Jenn. IMO. Today

I feel so much empathy for Brittney and what she endured. I'm so grateful for the young victims now testifying against family. I fully believe Brittney testifying against her faux grandpa helped give the latest victims strength
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This truly expresses my opinion on the night Brittney disappeared. I too go over and over in my mind what happened to Brittney. WWH and DH must have had voice conversation AFTER Brittney told AH she was going to call Donny to come pick her up. According to the timeline, it was after (3PM?) when Brittney told AH she was calling uncle Donnie. Wendy stated Brittney wanted a ride to Styx house, however Wendy also states her husband DH did not pick Brittney up. To me, this is Wendy keeping Brittney away from the Styx River house. Why.

After the visit from LE and Children Services, I strongly believe WWH would have called and drove to the Styx river house, after her children were put to bed. Wendy, I strongly believe would have also contacted Mendy and JM. The two she was closest with. I don't feel Wendy and friends set out to murder Brittney, I believe a confrontation emerged, and Brittney was murdered spontaneously. I have the strongest hope in my heart that someone will talk, more than one person knows what happened to Brittney. Closure from Brittney's loved ones. Please.

 

[Gunther Toody]

How did the thought of going with Donnie start?
Why didn't she bring her daughter?

What was the purpose of their encounter?

Just to visit?
To get high together?
To discuss Donnie's police interview and the case?

 

[*Lash*]

Hi Gunther!

I think these links will help answer some of your questions. Sorry some of the links in the posts are messed up. It occurred when WS transitioned to a new forum setup.

Timeline by KateB:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-Maps-*NO-DISCUSSION*&p=10031303#post10031303

Timeline by Quester:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-Maps-*NO-DISCUSSION*&p=10544865#post10544865

Facts shared by verified insider BrittsStepMom, categorized by topic:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-Maps-*NO-DISCUSSION*&p=10486407#post10486407

 

[Gunther Toody]

Hi Gunther!

I think these links will help answer some of your questions. Sorry some of the links in the posts are messed up. It occurred when WS transitioned to a new forum setup.

Timeline by KateB:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-Maps-*NO-DISCUSSION*&p=10031303#post10031303

Timeline by Quester:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-Maps-*NO-DISCUSSION*&p=10544865#post10544865

Facts shared by verified insider BrittsStepMom, categorized by topic:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-Maps-*NO-DISCUSSION*&p=10486407#post10486407

I appreciate it..but there is so much information overload on the case that it is hard to pick through everything to get at the answers.

 

[KateB]

How did the thought of going with Donnie start?
Why didn't she bring her daughter?

What was the purpose of their encounter?

Just to visit?
To get high together?
To discuss Donnie's police interview and the case?

I appreciate it..but there is so much information overload on the case that it is hard to pick through everything to get at the answers.

I'll try to give my interpretation and understanding of what we've discussed over the past 2.5 years and others can correct, comment or add to.

Brittney had been bouncing from one relative's house to another. We were told that she had stayed at her paternal grandmother's apartment a lot since it was a party house. Styx River, where Donnie lived was also known to be a party house. Brittney often spent time at Donnie's Styx River property,too, but she was back staying with Chessie and her maternal grandmother at that time. Brittney was close to Donnie. It's been said he was her favorite uncle and they had a unique relationship. So the purpose of their encounter, in my opinion, was a routine visit. And even though Wendy had posted on social media (truth or not & if same night is unknown.) that Donnie had told Wendy that he told Brittney...if she could get a ride to Styx, she could stay there. Then we found out, Donnie went and got her after receiving her call. For some time, Brittney and Donald were so close that Brittney's phone service was part of the Holland family plan, but that was cancelled just a few weeks prior to her disappearance.

I don't believe it would have been to discuss the police interview since it wasn't set until 2 days later, the day Donnie allegedly attempted suicide. I don't believe it was to discuss the case either, because going to Styx was not her first choice. Remember she called AH to hang out or do something together with their child and he declined. Brittney had not had custody of her child for several months. Originally, she voluntarily gave custody to the child's father which was subsequently made official by the courts. So the child was not living with her at that time to go with her.
Hindsight helps. We know now Chessie had to be aware of all the child sex abuse occurring for the past decade. Chessie's first public statement regarding Donnie on HLN "She left my house, happy as a lark. and this one "I don't believe he'd hurt my baby" evolved into "I believe Donnie killed her when she went to confront him" is just too convenient for me.
Also, another reason I don't believe it was to discuss the case or to confront him, was 3 days had passed since the FB exchange with one victim. And Brittney and Donnie had had many voice and text messages every day.
HTH and MOO.

 

[Gunther Toody]

Nice one Kate!
Your post beat me by two minutes...

I'll leave my original post for further comment.

I appreciate it..but there is so much information overload on the case that it is hard to pick through everything to get at the answers.

It doesn't appear as though Donnie initiated the contact that evening..so to me, that pretty much rules out premeditation on his part. I didn't read in any of the links how the two initially communicated that evening. Did she call him or did he call her?

Is it normal for her to leave her daughter behind?
Apparently, she left on the spur of the moment after an argument with her mother, right?

It seems odd that she would just go by her uncle to hang out, without some ulterior motive.
Didn't Chessie claim he sexually abused her?
Most people would want to distance themselves from their abuser.
It sounds like Stockholm Syndrome but if thats the case, why kill her, (assuming he did of course).

They had to have discussed his appointment that was to take place the next day, especially if he did in fact abuse her at an earlier time.
Did the conversation turn violent, did he fear she might testify against him?
If he did kill her, did his suicide come as a result of remorse for having done so?

Thoughts?

 

[KateB]

Nice one Kate!
Your post beat me by two minutes...

I'll leave my original post for further comment.



It doesn't appear as though Donnie initiated the contact that evening..so to me, that pretty much rules out premeditation on his part. I didn't read in any of the links how the two initially communicated that evening. Did she call him or did he call her?

Is it normal for her to leave her daughter behind?
Apparently, she left on the spur of the moment after an argument with her mother, right?

It seems odd that she would just go by her uncle to hang out, without some ulterior motive.
Didn't Chessie claim he sexually abused her?
Most people would want to distance themselves from their abuser.
It sounds like Stockholm Syndrome but if thats the case, why kill her, (assuming he did of course).

They had to have discussed his appointment that was to take place the next day, especially if he did in fact abuse her at an earlier time.
Did the conversation turn violent, did he fear she might testify against him?
If he did kill her, did his suicide come as a result of remorse for having done so?

Thoughts?

I'll add on to it, then.
I believe it was a voice call to Donnie. The call to AH immediately preceding her communication to Donnie was definitely voice. That call I am positive of my recollection, as it's always been my absolute last known alive time. And yes, I've always believed Brittney initiated the communication to Donnie.

It was normal for her to go places without her child since the child was not living with her. Your wording isn't right, though. She didn't leave her behind. She knew she was in a safe place and being well taken care of.

Leaving Chessie's abruptly after an argument was Chessie's revised description of the last time Brittney was seen alive. So if this is true, it means leaving happy as a lark is not and leaving to confront Donnie is probably not true either. (And the argument was over babysitting-another Chessie revision. Right.)

Rumors had Brittney helping Donnie make money. I don't recall that was ever confirmed by MSM or BSM, BrittsStepMom. But I do think there might be some truth in that, and would explain the phone service arrangement. Converting Donnie's prescription pain pills for cash was discussed a lot. If that was the total commerce part of their relationship is unknown.

I disagree still about the possibility that they discussed the appointment. No one knew he was going to have an appointment until Friday morning. Brittney vanished Wed night or 1am Thursday.

I can't answer the rest. But I do agree, there had to be conversations about the investigation for months. Everyone in the family knew Donald had to move out from the Fairhope house, had to take a polygraph test, and how many were active participants in it all. It was no secret so yes, no need for a confrontation over common knowledge, right?

I agree Donnie had every reason to kill himself. But why would he wait 2 days, why would he use a girly gun, why would he not get out of his vehicle first, why would he choose so close to the Fairhope property, why would he not delete the evidence off his phone first?

 

[KateB]

Review for the new readers. Chessie's credibility has come under much scrutiny, some due to these videos.

Chessie Wood arrest for sex crimes June 2013 -
http://videos.al.com/mobile-press-register/2013/06/raw_chessie_wood_talks_about_h.html

Chessie Wood arrest for traffic violation in the Mobile County sweep with 8 arrest warrants and executing 6 with local media onsite when the 6 arrived at Metro County Jail. October 2013 (Brownlee was already in Baldwin County Jail and Morgan had to be extradited from Mississippi.)
http://videos.al.com/al/2013/10/brittany_wood_family.html

One of my theories is based on Chessie's revision that Brittney went to confront Donald & Donald murdered Brittney never came up until it became part of Chessie's defense, after her own arrest.

 

[*Lash*]

From what Steph has shared with us regarding Brittney's phone records, on May 30th Donnie was the first to contact Brittney. Donnie texted her at 9:13am. Steph said it was kind of like a wake up call. Brittney called Donnie at 9:51am. This continued back and forth throughout the day.

In my opinion, this was the norm. Donnie and Britt had an unusual relationship. As well, I believe Brittney played a part in selling Donnie's pain meds. I think Donnie was someone she liked to hang out with. My personal opinion, I think getting high was the main reason. Britt probably didn't have to pay for the drugs from uncle Donnie. I do believe she would have chose hanging with Andy over Donnie. Brittney wanted to be anywhere as long as her mother wasn't there.

 

[*Lash*]

I agree with KateB. I don't think Donnie and Britt discussed his appointment because it was not even known at the time. I do believe there was discussion about the detective that visited Wendy that night. About the same time Donnie was picking up Brittney. However, there had to be talk about the sex abuse allegations. Wendy most likely called Donnie right after the detective left. Brittney would have been with Donnie by this time. Brittney was caught right in the middle. Wendy was likely in panic mode after the visit and it probably pissed her off when she called to tell Donnie and found out he was with Britt.

I am curious if the detective said something to Wendy about Brittney. Did the detective mention he was looking for Britt? Maybe he brought up the Facebook messaging between Britt and the victim. I'm just wondering if the detective said something about Brittney that set Wendy off. Something that made her suspicious of Britt talking to LE.

 

[KateB]

From what Steph has shared with us regarding Brittney's phone records, on May 30th Donnie was the first to contact Brittney. Donnie texted her at 9:13am. Steph said it was kind of like a wake up call. Brittney called Donnie at 9:51am. This continued back and forth throughout the day.

In my opinion, this was the norm. Donnie and Britt had an unusual relationship. As well, I believe Brittney played a part in selling Donnie's pain meds. I think Donnie was someone she liked to hang out with. My personal opinion, I think getting high was the main reason. Britt probably didn't have to pay for the drugs from uncle Donnie. I do believe she would have chose hanging with Andy over Donnie. Brittney wanted to be anywhere as long as her mother wasn't there.

And other family member(s).
I still would like to know more about Chessie, Scott, Mendy and Wendy's childhood. More arrests coming, the DA has suggested. Their father is deceased.

 

[*Lash*]

More arrests and generations of abuse, the prosecution has stated.

Generations...we already know of one generation who testified against Brittney and to this day sticks by the rapist. The rapist who was given a life sentence. IIRC, she was still living with Chessie the day Brittney allegedly left the house.

 

[KateB]

If Chessie's argument with Brittney would have been about Donald's investigation, then it might be more believable that she went to confront Donald. But then Chessie would have to admit to knowing about the sex abuse before he was found with a bullet in his head. Remember she did publicly state in her press conference, her childhood and their family life was always absolutely totally normal until the revelation that it wasn't..."when all this came out." This from the woman who already had a family member serving life for sex crimes against Brittney.
video: http://videos.al.com/mobile-press-register/2013/10/chessie_wood_press_conference.html
transcript: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-Maps-*NO-DISCUSSION*&p=10048163#post10048163

 

[Gunther Toody]

I agree with KateB. I don't think Donnie and Britt discussed his appointment because it was not even known at the time. I do believe there was discussion about the detective that visited Wendy that night. About the same time Donnie was picking up Brittney. However, there had to be talk about the sex abuse allegations. Wendy most likely called Donnie right after the detective left. Brittney would have been with Donnie by this time. Brittney was caught right in the middle. Wendy was likely in panic mode after the visit and it probably pissed her off when she called to tell Donnie and found out he was with Britt.

I am curious if the detective said something to Wendy about Brittney. Did the detective mention he was looking for Britt? Maybe he brought up the Facebook messaging between Britt and the victim. I'm just wondering if the detective said something about Brittney that set Wendy off. Something that made her suspicious of Britt talking to LE.

This makes sense to me as well. Initially, I thought that perhaps Donnie may have killed Brittney out of fear she would testify against him.
But it looks more and more like Wendy may have been involved in her murder rather than Donnie. If the detective did say something to Wendy, about Brittney (maybe alluding to whether Donnie had sexually abused her or not) that she feared Donnie might be prosecuted, or maybe even herself...its easy to see a motive for killing her.

If Brittney carried a gun, I can't believe that Wendy wouldn't know about it.

So in my mind, a scenario could evolve like this.
Wendy contacts Donnie after talking to the detective...Donnie informs her that he is with Brittney.
Somehow, somewhere the three are together.

Wendy obtains Brittney's gun or kills her by some other means, or convinces Donnie to kill her to prevent him/them going to jail. She may have even made up some part of the story to anger him against Brittney, then they both dispose of the body. Maybe one of them is smart enough to remove the battery from her phone to avoid it pinging their location.

Donnie is overcome with remorse and takes his own life?

It makes sense but would be hard to prove.

 

[KateB]

I agree with KateB. I don't think Donnie and Britt discussed his appointment because it was not even known at the time. I do believe there was discussion about the detective that visited Wendy that night. About the same time Donnie was picking up Brittney. However, there had to be talk about the sex abuse allegations. Wendy most likely called Donnie right after the detective left. Brittney would have been with Donnie by this time. Brittney was caught right in the middle. Wendy was likely in panic mode after the visit and it probably pissed her off when she called to tell Donnie and found out he was with Britt.

I am curious if the detective said something to Wendy about Brittney. Did the detective mention he was looking for Britt? Maybe he brought up the Facebook messaging between Britt and the victim. I'm just wondering if the detective said something about Brittney that set Wendy off. Something that made her suspicious of Britt talking to LE.

There was something in the press (I think FOX10, so probably not available anymore) that LE wasn't made aware of the FB exchange until July 2012. So everything in your theory works, except that part. It wasn't known yet to LE. The same data may have been known, but not that Brittney had the social media exchange with her. I'm not sure where to look for that link but maybe this will trigger your recollection of that detail, as well. The theory that Wendy may have jumped to the wrong conclusion to LE's source of their information (which now we know was Scott AND one of the child victims, months before the alleged suicide.) still works, though. And if there was a decade old residual grudge leftover against Brittney from sending Wendy's own common law stepfather to prison, in addition to any jealousy for spending way too much time with Donnie, this could be getting close to the truth and would explain why Brittney only was taken out and not any of the other dozen victims.

 

[KateB]

From Dec 18th
https://twitter.com/SarahWallFox10/status/545543510041325570

William Brownlee - convicted of sodomy, sex abuse in connection to child sex ring -> sentenced today. @FOX10News

Then, @FOX10News re-tweets a food blogger's tweet, that isn't MSM, that says Brownlee is now set to be sentenced on 1/15, same as 3 others.
Scroll down to Dec 18th: https://twitter.com/FOX10News
Looks like Brownlee, Wendy, Dustin and Scott all on January 15.

 

[*Lash*]

Thanks, KateB.

I also recall reading something about when LE found out about the FB exchange. I was looking at the FB screenshots just the other day. I'm going to search my files my and delve into it more.

 

[Curious Me]

Thinking about some children being safe this season from any of the holiday "family get togethers". Celebrating the idea that some children will have new starts and a chance to grow up not being sexually abused. A lot was done this year to make their world safer. Brittney is still missed. She calls out to be found. I think she'd be glad her daughter is safe and cared for so well.

Hope everyone enjoys a Happy Safe Holiday Season.