Recovered/Located AL - Casey White, cap murder chg, & Vicky Sue White, CO w/sher office, Lauderdale, 29 Apr'22*Reward*

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  • #801
Interview with a son of Connie Ridgway, the woman he confessed to killing and then recanted and pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity once he was back at the jail.

The day he entered that plea he should have been sent back to prison. The state and the county are both at fault here, IMO. They allowed him to game the system. And now he's a threat to the public AGAIN.


MOO

The history of the Lauderdale County Jail is unbelievable. Going back to the 1960's, they've had massive problems with inmates escaping and consistently failed to do anything about it.

For example, in 1978, an inmate facing a first-degree murder charge broke out of the jail along with seven other inmates by climbing through a vent to the roof of the courthouse (the jail and courthouse were in the same building at that time which, ironically, would have averted this whole CW/VW situation) and then climbing down a tree.

What did the jail officials do to prevent it from happening again? Absolutely nothing.

The same inmate escaped the exact same way just six months later.

I'm not exaggerating when I say this facility has been a disaster for quite a long time.

It took a federal injunction in 1982 to get them to stop massively overcrowding the jail, but they couldn't even abide by the judge's decision––they were held in contempt not once, but twice for violating the injunction. Then, once the injunction was lifted in 1998, they just went back to their old ways of packing prisoners into an understaffed facility.
 
  • #802
That's what I was thinking, re turning the phone on.
Maybe it's been dismantled and got rid of ?

If she turns that phone on, it's game over. If she reaches out to anyone, it's game over.
 
  • #803
Vicky had clearly made plans in advance to liquidate her assets. IMO, this was not a rash decision. She had also turned in her retirement papers the day before she disappeared.

I also believe Casey White is a slick con man.

She may have been conned by him, but I also believe once CW escaped he may no longer had use for her.

Prayers for her judgement and safety tonight.

JMO
 
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  • #804
As far as I know, no officials have made any mention of her private vehicle. I tend to think that that means it’s accounted for.

If I remember rightly, in the press conference today, posted earlier in this thread, the sheriff said that they were working on ‘leads’ as to what vehicle they might be in. I think they might be checking any camera footage that exists of the parking lot where the patrol car was found—see what cars were moving through it in the general timeframe. And, checking any possibility that she bought a getaway car somewhere?

But, no idea of what sort/color of vehicle, as far as I know.
I thought it was mentioned that the patrol car was seen parked next to cars for sale. They could have stopped there, bought another vehicle and then abandoned the patrol car .
 
  • #805
Some have sort of ruled it out because of the age difference, though if it was the other way around and the male inmate was almost 20 years older than the female prison employee, the subject of age wouldn't even have come up.

There was a post that called her plain. She doesn't look plain to me in either of the photos I've seen so far.
I thought she was quite attractive and cute in a natural way.

I meant to post that before, though I knew it wouldn't go down well, and most likely won't now.
It's just my opinion.

Also re the age thing, being a woman who is 56 doesn't rule out still looking attractive to anyone, even a younger man.

IMO, neither of them are attractive. Just my own opinion, obviously. I agree absolutely that people have their own taste and it's possible CW could have truly fallen for VW. I don't believe it, the circumstances don't show love and caring, but it's possible.

If, however, there was a true love match between the two (again, I stipulate that I 100% don't believe so), then they both handled it in the exact wrong way.

If, for some desperate reason, Vicky fell in love with him, then you DON'T break him out of jail. You retire correctly, you become a civilian, you visit him in jail or prison, you attend his court hearings, you try to get conjugal rights. You vow you'll wait forever. You DON'T do the worst professional thing you can do, the one that upends the meaning of your entire career. You DON'T collude in a scenario that causes your "boyfriend" to go on the run. Yes, he's escaped for now, but he is in for so much worse when he's caught. He'll get into a shootout with the police, or if recaptured he will lose whatever prison privileges he had.

And if CW had any actual love for her, you DON'T force a situation in which your "girlfriend" has to forfeit everything she's ever had to become a fugitive with you. You DON'T want someone you "love" to forfeit her mother, her job, her home, her reputation and eventually her freedom, just to be with you.

Even if this weren't a case of warden/prisoner, who knows how long they would last if they were a regular everyday couple. Of course a man could love an older woman, but if he wanted to have a family someday, she's beyond childbearing years. IMO there are many factors against them having a long-lasting relationship, BEYOND the fact that he's a vicious murderer, and that she bore responsibility for keeping him away from the civilian world.

I know it's not the same, because this involves a child, but I have the sick feeling I've had just once in my professional career. A fellow teacher did actually fall "in love" with a 15-year old student. We didn't know a thing about it. When he was of age, they married. She was never arrested, to my knowledge. She left the school after the kid graduated, went to another school, and no one seems to have known about this gut- wrenching situation until they married and we found out about it all.

The wrench we all felt was unbelievable. Like VW, something like this is the epitome of what we DO NOT DO, the exact opposite of our life's mission.

With the huge exception that CW is not a minor, I feel that same sense of upheaval. This is a betrayal of an entire life's profession. The thing that does not happen. The thing we do not do.

JMO
 
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  • #806
I read a line from I believe a railroad seasoned employee. Now they, nor myself have ANY confirmation how this and/or the prison system in regards to retirement/pension work - but what they did comment was the style of handing in the form, citing it would commence the next day is how it is where he’s employed. Your last day of employment was say Thursday, the. Friday is officially your first day of retirement. More importantly to this, once this occurs no matter what occurs to you after legally, charged with a crime, etc etc that pension and retirement can never be taken away you..AGAIN this is merely another major union employers practices on retirement but they wondered given the style it went down if they too follow this method at the prison.. which would mean even if caught in this as a crime she could still qualify and receive for her years of service MOO…….


She is of no use to him if she is retired. No more keys, no more patrol cars, no more authority. Of course he didn't want her retired. But she had to have known the same thing. If she dropped her papers and completed the retirement process she wouldn't have been able to get him out of there. She had to be on active duty to pull this off.

So why the show? What's the point of flaunting retirement paperwork to your boss if it prevents the very thing you are trying to accomplish? It makes no sense. That kind of impulsive, histrionic behavior is reflective of someone under a lot of pressure who is acting out. Dropping her papers and flouncing had no rational or logical purpose. Only an emotional one. A last act of control she could not resist before she departed the venue. IMO
 
  • #807
Can someone answer this:

Since she was able to file for retirement, and she will get - at minimal- her previous contributions, I wonder if she did that so if she is killed, her beneficiary will get the money. Would this be possible?
It depends. Some gov pensions are direct. You do x number of years you'll get y number of pension checks. That ends when you die. Others are 401k's where you contribute x amount and your employer matches it. Similar with TSP's. Some pension plans are a combination of both. If you die, your direct pension stops. If 401k's and TSP's are involved that will be hashed out in probate according to your will. Or if alive, disbursed to you at your request. I imagine all her accounts are frozen at this point and she never reached a "pension" status. None of those funds are going to anyone until this mess is straightened out. And it would take the appearance of VW to straighten them out. Which I don't see happening. If CW kills her and there is a death certificate the 401k's and TSP's and life insurance will be disbursed to beneficiaries according to her will. jmo
 
  • #808
Wow! It sounds like she fits the profile someone posted of women into convicts. They like to be nurturers and feel they can change them. But the relationship isn’t sustainable on the outside because the issues they have that lead them to want a relationship to begin with, with a convict, aren’t resolved when it goes to real life. Something like that.
Yes, right.
That's why I had to do some reading and investigation on this bizarre situation.
I could not understand how a seemingly solid woman with 25 years experience, 16 years in that particular job, exemplary record & secure retirement on the horizon, could be scammed and self deluded by a violent killer in this way.
Opened my eyes.
 
  • #809
Yes, right.
That's why I had to do some reading and investigation on this bizarre situation.
I could not understand how a seemingly solid woman with 25 years experience, 16 years in that particular job, exemplary record & secure retirement on the horizon, could be scammed and self deluded by a violent killer in this way.
Opened my eyes.
 
  • #810
I thought it was mentioned that the patrol car was seen parked next to cars for sale. They could have stopped there, bought another vehicle and then abandoned the patrol car .

Yes, but.....she in her uniform, he in orange-and-white stripes, with shackles? They’d have made a memorable pair.

But, what if she stopped there earlier, driving her on car, bought a car, paid cash for it, got the key, but said that she’d pick it up in a day or two, when she has a friend to drive it back to her place.

She’d still have a car that could be traced to her, but by that time it might be hidden in a garage, parked with a car-cover over it, etc. Would it buy them some time?
 
  • #811
It was even worse. A van of 5 went to court with two deputies, and a van of 7 went yo court with another two deputies. Then she showed up, requested CW, and there wasn’t anyone else to go with her. (As I believe she knew.)
Dear Lord.....she timed it this way.

One could even wonder if she had anything to do with getting those 12 inmates off to court with the 4 deputies that day, ...if she had any authority on the timing.
 
  • #812
Makes you think that maybe it was her that really could have benefited from a mental health appt. I know we have basically seen a lot from every which way that’s pointed to she planned and went along with this, but jeez really holding out some sliver of hope after all those years she would have recognized if she was being manipulated or been able to make a plan for help if forced etc but idk it’s just all so surreal and frankly stupid. Clearly, people are going to get hurt and I just hope no innocent loss of life is involved. :(
 
  • #813
Dear Lord.....she timed it this way.

One could even wonder if she had anything to do with getting those 12 inmates off to court with the 4 deputies that day, ...if she had any authority on the timing.

I think she did arrange it—unless that sort of situation happened on a regular basis. I don’t know exactly what her responsibilities were, but she seems to have had a lot of power. And, it sounds as though the people she worked with trusted her, too!
 
  • #814
I read a line from I believe a railroad seasoned employee. Now they, nor myself have ANY confirmation how this and/or the prison system in regards to retirement/pension work - but what they did comment was the style of handing in the form, citing it would commence the next day is how it is where he’s employed. Your last day of employment was say Thursday, the. Friday is officially your first day of retirement. More importantly to this, once this occurs no matter what occurs to you after legally, charged with a crime, etc etc that pension and retirement can never be taken away you..AGAIN this is merely another major union employers practices on retirement but they wondered given the style it went down if they too follow this method at the prison.. which would mean even if caught in this as a crime she could still qualify and receive for her years of service MOO…….
She committed this crime on active duty. She was actively working, carried a badge, carried a gun, was driving a patrol car. She was not "retired". Friday may have been her "last day" but she was still a sworn active duty employee with car, badge, gun and patrol car. And still issuing orders.

And that is what matters in this case. On Friday, she was still had a badge, a gun, keys, a patrol car, authority. She was on active duty, not retired, on that Friday. Carrying out her duties as normal.

And she chose to jailbreak an inmate on her last day of active duty. It doesn't matter what her retirement status was at that point. She was on duty. Issuing orders at the jail. Wearing a uniform. With a badge. And a firearm. And a patrol car. She was legit active duty. She wasn't "off" on Friday. She was working as usual. jmo
 
  • #815
I think she did arrange it—unless that sort of situation happened on a regular basis. I don’t know exactly what her responsibilities were, but she seems to have had a lot of power. And, it sounds as though the people she worked with trusted her, too!

I wonder if her involvement goes all the way back to him confessing the murder.

Man charged in brutal 2015 Rogersville slaying
(Appears to be a local news source, hope that’s ok).

“During an interview at the prison, White confessed to the crime, and his statements match certain evidence at the scene that was not released, Connolly said.”

Info not released, but if VW had access to it somehow, could she have fed it to him so he could make this confession seem credible and get the transfer they were both looking for?
 
  • #816
In Alabama she will collect her pension up until the day she I'd found guilty or pleads guilty to a felony. Even then she will recover all of her contributions plus interest. If she directed it to her mother's account it makes sense.
2014 Code of Alabama :: Title 36 - PUBLIC OFFICERS AND EMPLOYEES. :: Chapter 27D - PUBLIC RETIREMENT SYSTEMS. :: Section 36-27D-1 - Forfeiture or suspension of retirement benefits; refunds; liability.

Believe it or not, Alabama is one of the toughest on this. Many states a cop could kill someone in the line of duty and still collect a pension.
That's what I thought also. She probably can collect but at the same time she would have to be extremely discreet so as to not get caught because authorities will be watching everything. If she is confident that she won't get caught in terms of her pension I have to think someone else helped her override a system in the government's database, funnel it into cryptocurrency, something like that. Someone with IT knowledge?
 
  • #817
Info not released, but if VW had access to it somehow, could she have fed it to him so he could make this confession seem credible and get the transfer they were both looking for?

Very interesting speculation JMO
 
  • #818
It was stated that other inmates knew of this "relationship".

I wonder to what extent. Was it observation only, or did CW talk? Is it possible anyone else knew of the escape scheme? If so, did any of those 12 who went to court that day suspect or know this was going to happen?

IF CW did talk, could any of those inmates offer some clues to what the plan was after absconding, under questioning? Maybe with a dangling carrot of some sort, a nice deal or perk for informing?
 
  • #819
I wonder if her involvement goes all the way back to him confessing the murder.

Man charged in brutal 2015 Rogersville slaying
(Appears to be a local news source, hope that’s ok).

“During an interview at the prison, White confessed to the crime, and his statements match certain evidence at the scene that was not released, Connolly said.”

Info not released, but if VW had access to it somehow, could she have fed it to him so he could make this confession seem credible and get the transfer they were both looking for?

She is technically employed by the sheriff’s office, so she probably has access to that information or could get it from someone involved in the investigation. She’s been working there for 16 years so she probably has good relationships with lots of people in the department that she could leverage to get details about the case. MOO.
 
  • #820
It was stated that other inmates knew of this "relationship".

I wonder to what extent. Was it observation only, or did CW talk? Is it possible anyone else knew of the escape scheme? If so, did any of those 12 who went to court that day suspect or know this was going to happen?

I didn't realize other inmates knew something was up. Thanks for posting. I just got onto the thread. Very good questions IMO. I wonder how much they will reveal.
 
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