Recovered/Located AL - Casey White, cap murder chg, & Vicky Sue White, CO w/sher office, Lauderdale, 29 Apr'22*Reward*

[OddOneOut]

IMO if he was super well-connected, he wouldn't need VW for longer than the 8 mins it took to get out of prison and ditch the van. I don't think CW has a bunch of accomplices.

Except he wouldn't want her body found too soon.

 

[steff13]

Casey White and Vicky White: Warrant issued for Alabama corrections officer - CNN

They issued a warrant for her arrest for assisting him in escaping.

 

[CharlestonGal]

Days before investigators believe Vicky White assisted Casey Cole White, no relation, in escaping the Lauderdale County Detention Facility she sold her Lexington home for $95,550, below market value, WAAY 31 learned Monday after reviewing public documents.
Wanted Lauderdale Co. Sheriff employee sold her home 12 days before disappearing with murder suspect

Well that settles that. From your link:

"Her retirement money was not released before she went missing, that meeting with officials and White was set to occur this week."

 

[moonriverfarm]

Just to make it clear - this is Florence, Alabama in Lauderdale County.

 

[wary]

Days before investigators believe Vicky White assisted Casey Cole White, no relation, in escaping the Lauderdale County Detention Facility she sold her Lexington home for $95,550, below market value, WAAY 31 learned Monday after reviewing public documents.
Wanted Lauderdale Co. Sheriff employee sold her home 12 days before disappearing with murder suspect

That’s not a lot of money to last you the rest of your life. Is that the net money she got?

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Well that settles that. From your link:

"Her retirement money was not released before she went missing, that meeting with officials and White was set to occur this week."

This is worrying. If he instigated the situation, it seems he had no interest in long term finances (or associated relationship) - the initial 95,000 was apparently enough.

 

[Bessdrewtwo]

If I was in her shoes and valued not being locked up, I’d try to head for a border as soon as we departed (and before word spread).

Mexico, which would not extradite him if Alabama was seeking the death penalty, is a 24 hour drive from them. Because local investigators didn’t start piecing things together until 5:30 pm (and it probably took a couple more hours for the full pic to develop), a blue alert didn’t even go out until that evening. So it’s possible if they drove nearly straight through, they could’ve got across the border before this story gained much steam in the morning. (My friends and I did a 40 hour straight road trip with no overnight stops in college and I wouldn’t do it again unless my life was on the line - but they had the motivation).

Cuba - it’s a 13 hour road trip down to Miami, but there are a lot of regulations around travel to Cuba with legit charter companies requiring passengers to meet both US and Cuban regulations to go there it seems. Now I know there are illegitimate efforts that would be willing to boat people over to Havana (it’s only 250 nautical miles from the Florida mainland or like 90 from Key West, right?). But that doesn’t seem like the safest or surest route since those waters are patrolled and boats leaving US waters or entering Cuba’s without the appropriate permit are seized and the penalty is up to 10 years in prison. Cuba has allowed many US fugitives to stay there without extraditing them (although they technically made an extradition treaty with us in like 1904 or 1905).

Canada - Windsor is only 10 hours drive from Alabama. So they could’ve been crossing there by nightfall, potentially before this hit everyone’s radar. Canada also has discretion not to extradite someone unless the death penalty is taken off the table. There would likely be video footage at the checkpoint provided US officials could narrow down what sort of vehicle to look for. I guess they could’ve gotten across on a bus as well if they used fake identities, but someone would probably remember them if so.

Appalachians - they could make Weogufka and the lower end of the mountains in 3 hours. Butler, TN is 5 and a half hours drive. It’s 3.5 hours to Springer Mountain, Georgia.

If they were willing to chance an airport, they could go literally anywhere of course. But if they used their real IDs, the flight path would be found. And if they used alternative IDs, there’s still probably be camera footage out there to find — providing they weren’t masterfully disguised and didn’t raise any fellow passengers’ suspicion who saw the news the next day.

So even though I myself might shoot for Mexico — and then try to head elsewhere from there perhaps — I am betting they are in the mountains lying low for now.

Where do you think they are?

 

[wary]

This is worrying. If he instigated the situation, it seems he had no interest in long term finances (or associated relationship) - the initial 95,000 was apparently enough.

Well, I think that he’d probably have been realistic enough to know he’d have no way of getting his hands on her retirement money. Even if she was swept away with romance, I don’t think that he was.

 

[BlueSky12]

@Moderator, you may wish to correct the spelling of Vicky White's first name in the thread titles (now that we have confirmation that it ends with a Y and not an I).

 

[Marysmith]

If I was in her shoes and valued not being locked up, I’d try to head for a border as soon as we departed (and before word spread).

Mexico, which would not extradite him if Alabama was seeking the death penalty, is a 24 hour drive from them. Because local investigators didn’t start piecing things together until 5:30 pm (and it probably took a couple more hours for the full pic to develop), a blue alert didn’t even go out until that evening. So it’s possible if they drove nearly straight through, they could’ve got across the border before this story gained much steam in the morning. (My friends and I did a 40 hour straight road trip with no overnight stops in college and I wouldn’t do it again unless my life was on the line - but they had the motivation).

Cuba - it’s a 13 hour road trip down to Miami, but there are a lot of regulations around travel to Cuba with legit charter companies requiring passengers to meet both US and Cuban regulations to go there it seems. Now I know there are illegitimate efforts that would be willing to boat people over to Havana (it’s only 250 nautical miles from the Florida mainland or like 90 from Key West, right?). But that doesn’t seem like the safest or surest route since those waters are patrolled and boats leaving US waters or entering Cuba’s without the appropriate permit are seized and the penalty is up to 10 years in prison. Cuba has allowed many US fugitives to stay there without extraditing them (although they technically made an extradition treaty with us in like 1904 or 1905).

Canada - Windsor is only 10 hours drive from Alabama. So they could’ve been crossing there by nightfall, potentially before this hit everyone’s radar. Canada also has discretion not to extradite someone unless the death penalty is taken off the table. There would likely be video footage at the checkpoint provided US officials could narrow down what sort of vehicle to look for. I guess they could’ve gotten across on a bus as well if they used fake identities, but someone would probably remember them if so.

Appalachians - they could make Weogufka and the lower end of the mountains in 3 hours. Butler, TN is 5 and a half hours drive. It’s 3.5 hours to Springer Mountain, Georgia.

If they were willing to chance an airport, they could go literally anywhere of course. But if they used their real IDs, the flight path would be found. And if they used alternative IDs, there’s still probably be camera footage out there to find — providing they weren’t masterfully disguised and didn’t raise any fellow passengers’ suspicion who saw the news the next day.

So even though I myself might shoot for Mexico — and then try to head elsewhere from there perhaps — I am betting they are in the mountains lying low for now.

Where do you think they are?

Great thoughts!
I honestly think they are close by in a remote area in a long term rental or somewhere abandoned. But as you said there are lots of possibilities!
I just think it’s so sad on her behalf that she did this but also that she should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

 

[BeckyF]

Unless he's in a wheelchair...

That won’t last. IMO

 

[BeckyF]

Joyce Mitchell, whose case some of you might remember, got 5 years.
Joyce Mitchell released from prison 5 years after helping convicted killers escape

And she didn’t actually go on the run with them.

 

[Bravo]

IMO they may be out of State but not far. Hiding in a remote area.

 

[OddOneOut]

I'm suspicious of this whole investigation. Lots of people dream of cashing out retirement, selling their home and chilling out on the beach. Often, family responsibilities stop people from actually doing that but VW was single and free to roam if that's what she wanted to do. If someone else "paved the way" for the escape, VW could be the scapegoat. It does look like she was complicit but I'm not convinced we know the whole story. MOO

I agree. She probably told a lot of people she was retiring. Also, someone may have faked paper work for a mental health evaluation enough to convince her.

 

[Curiousobserver]

Well, I think that he’d probably have been realistic enough to know he’d have no way of getting his hands on her retirement money. Even if she was swept away with romance, I don’t think that he was.

I don't think that was the intent. If you die, disappear, or are declared dead and haven't filed the paperwork to retire, the survivor named as your beneficiary may not receive any benefits (possibly). It would be interesting to see the details of her pension options. MOO she was putting her affairs in order and may intend for someone else to benefit.

 

[Bessdrewtwo]

Except he wouldn't want her body found too soon.

I don’t know if he’d care to be honest. His criminal record shows a lot of impulsivity. It’s hard for me to believe he’d have the discipline or stability to lay low without her orchestrating a plan. And even then, I’m not sure he won’t break plan and draw attention in time.

 

[missingm]

There is no retirement money at this point. She submitted a retirement request on Thursday but it's still sitting at the jail. It's not even in the system yet. It's in the press conference somewhere. jmo

That sounds more like red tape the task force is using to hold up her money for a short while, maybe to draw her out. Once she submits it I can't believe you can hold up her pension indefinitely on a technicality.

I think she directed her pension to the account of a relative, maybe her mother. And if she needed some extra money she might have been able to borrow up to $50k from the pension before she filed for retirement.

 

[OddOneOut]

If I was in her shoes and valued not being locked up, I’d try to head for a border as soon as we departed (and before word spread).

Mexico, which would not extradite him if Alabama was seeking the death penalty, is a 24 hour drive from them. Because local investigators didn’t start piecing things together until 5:30 pm (and it probably took a couple more hours for the full pic to develop), a blue alert didn’t even go out until that evening. So it’s possible if they drove nearly straight through, they could’ve got across the border before this story gained much steam in the morning. (My friends and I did a 40 hour straight road trip with no overnight stops in college and I wouldn’t do it again unless my life was on the line - but they had the motivation).

Cuba - it’s a 13 hour road trip down to Miami, but there are a lot of regulations around travel to Cuba with legit charter companies requiring passengers to meet both US and Cuban regulations to go there it seems. Now I know there are illegitimate efforts that would be willing to boat people over to Havana (it’s only 250 nautical miles from the Florida mainland or like 90 from Key West, right?). But that doesn’t seem like the safest or surest route since those waters are patrolled and boats leaving US waters or entering Cuba’s without the appropriate permit are seized and the penalty is up to 10 years in prison. Cuba has allowed many US fugitives to stay there without extraditing them (although they technically made an extradition treaty with us in like 1904 or 1905).

Canada - Windsor is only 10 hours drive from Alabama. So they could’ve been crossing there by nightfall, potentially before this hit everyone’s radar. Canada also has discretion not to extradite someone unless the death penalty is taken off the table. There would likely be video footage at the checkpoint provided US officials could narrow down what sort of vehicle to look for. I guess they could’ve gotten across on a bus as well if they used fake identities, but someone would probably remember them if so.

Appalachians - they could make Weogufka and the lower end of the mountains in 3 hours. Butler, TN is 5 and a half hours drive. It’s 3.5 hours to Springer Mountain, Georgia.

If they were willing to chance an airport, they could go literally anywhere of course. But if they used their real IDs, the flight path would be found. And if they used alternative IDs, there’s still probably be camera footage out there to find — providing they weren’t masterfully disguised and didn’t raise any fellow passengers’ suspicion who saw the news the next day.

So even though I myself might shoot for Mexico — and then try to head elsewhere from there perhaps — I am betting they are in the mountains lying low for now.

Where do you think they are?

Mexico might not extradite him but they could her as she isn't facing a death penalty.

What about a private flight from a small airport arranged in another name before she picked him up?

 

[OddOneOut]

I don’t know if he’d care to be honest. His criminal record shows a lot of impulsivity. It’s hard for me to believe he’d have the discipline or stability to lay low without her orchestrating a plan. And even then, I’m not sure he won’t break plan and draw attention in time.

Finding her body too soon would mean LE knew to look for him alone.

 

[BeckyF]

Possible, but then again, I'm 68, single, no kids, and don't have either of my parents. No way would I fall for a convicted killer, help him escape throwing away a pension I worked 25 years to get.

Same here. Absolutely no way I would do that, not ever.