Recovered/Located AL - Casey White, prisoner, & Vicky Sue White (Deceased), CO w/sher office, Lauderdale, 29 Apr'22 *Reward* #5

[Abraham Cab]

It's been reported by Brian Entin that it was a homeless man. he didn't know who they were.

Does not change my question.
I assume they needed an ID to check in. And the guy isnt arrested? WTH

 

[Nah]

That seems kind of careless IMO to try to check in to a hotel, fail, and then send a homeless guy into the SAME hotel to try again. LOL. I find it difficult to believe that was the ONLY hotel they could possibly find in the entire area….? I wonder if there was a reason it HAD to be that hotel? Was it close to police? If so, I stand by my earlier statement that maybe she had some sort of self-loathing about her job and wanted to get back at LE for the sake of “her” prisoners before she died…?

 

[Nah]

How is the accomplice not arrested?

Are you really an accomplice if you don’t know you are doing anything wrong?

 

[justaparent]

I realize he has told LE they planned a shootout but I’m not sure I buy it. I personally suspect that he is embellishing the story, trying to add a bit of bravado. He has nothing to lose. They had at least a few minutes to start shooting and did not.

 

[Kristin Esq.]

Does not change my question.
I assume they needed an ID to check in. And the guy isnt arrested? WTH

@Nah said it above - the homeless man didn't know what he was doing. It's unlikely they told them they were on the run. Probably more of a story about how they don't have IDs or something.

In Indiana:
When May I Be Considered an Accomplice Under Indiana Law? According to Indiana Code section 35-41-2-4, a “person who knowingly or intentionally aids, induces, or causes another to commit an offense commits that offense” himself. (Indianapolis Complicity Lawyer | Hessler Law.)

When determining whether you should face a conviction under this section, courts look at the following factors:

• Whether you were present at the scene of the crime
• Your relationship to the other suspects of the crime
• Whether the perpetrators knew of your help
• Whether you opposed the commission of the crime at some point
• Your actions and statements before, during, and after occurrence of the crime

Just being present at the scene of the crime is usually not enough to sustain a conviction. There generally has to be some affirmative action taken by the alleged accomplice. Some examples of situations that might lead to you being considered as an accomplice include:

• Waiting on the street and keeping watch for the police or witnesses while your friends rob a business or a home
• Giving advice to a friend on how to break open safes, when you know that it is likely that your friend will act on your advice and commit a theft
• Giving weapons to people who might use them to commit a crime
• Hiding evidence for a friend who is being investigated for a crime

He probably didn't do anything knowingly.

 

[Kristin Esq.]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1524142278234804225

 

[concernedmother]

So many questions that may never be answered. VW is dead and doesn't seem to be one person out there that had a clue about her double life.

@Nah said it above - the homeless man didn't know what he was doing. It's unlikely they didn't tell them they were on the run. Probably more of a story about how they don't have IDs or something.

In Indiana:
When May I Be Considered an Accomplice Under Indiana Law? According to Indiana Code section 35-41-2-4, a “person who knowingly or intentionally aids, induces, or causes another to commit an offense commits that offense” himself. (Indianapolis Complicity Lawyer | Hessler Law.)

When determining whether you should face a conviction under this section, courts look at the following factors:

• Whether you were present at the scene of the crime
• Your relationship to the other suspects of the crime
• Whether the perpetrators knew of your help
• Whether you opposed the commission of the crime at some point
• Your actions and statements before, during, and after occurrence of the crime

Just being present at the scene of the crime is usually not enough to sustain a conviction. There generally has to be some affirmative action taken by the alleged accomplice. Some examples of situations that might lead to you being considered as an accomplice include:

• Waiting on the street and keeping watch for the police or witnesses while your friends rob a business or a home
• Giving advice to a friend on how to break open safes, when you know that it is likely that your friend will act on your advice and commit a theft
• Giving weapons to people who might use them to commit a crime
• Hiding evidence for a friend who is being investigated for a crime

He probably didn't do anything knowingly.

Doubt he even heard about them.

 

[elisimo]

I was a Booking/Classification lieutenant and can say that heads will roll on whomever the booking officer was that day as well as the officer in charge of that shift when those two walked out of the jail/detention center.

They would have had to go through booking to exit into a small ante room leading to the door. A booking officer, even if it was their first day on the job, would know better than letting a lone senior (or even lesser) female officer escort an inmate of such notoriety out the door. There would always be two armed officers escorting a convicted murderer or serious offender. A female officer would never be allowed to escort a male inmate alone. Vicky White would have had to have paperwork documenting the appointment to give to the booking officer for count purposes. I've also never heard of a mental health evaluation being done at a courthouse. They probably discovered Casey White missing at count time and there being no authorizing paperwork.

Heads will certainly roll and they should. The sheriff had said they were all family there at the jail. Well, apparently Vicky White didn't think so to stick them out like that.

I have no sympathy for either of them and hope Casey White gets a death sentence if they ever get around to prosecuting him.

JMO

Good point about psych evals not happening at courthouses.

 

[elisimo]

I had to sleep on all of this but have something to share from a medical perspective (obviously I am in medicine, let me qualify—not psych med). Still….

Looking at this from medicine:

-She is in her late 50s, Same job same home. Apparently not many (if any) truly close women friends. Maybe more of a loner? Less prone to share feelings or open up
-only married 3 years of those 50+ years. Not long. So no real long term relationships with someone other than her mom
-took care of ex in her own home as he died of Parkinson’s (so I have read here in Alabama). He died in Jan. No doubt that also took a toll
-that job was probably her heart and soul. Everything she had. That was ending
-Everything points to long term clinical depression. The “endings” that had occurred or were occurring. The glance back at her life and maybe feeling very unfulfilled
-bam. Here comes CW and he makes her feel alive for maybe the first time in her life.
-Cut to severe clinical depression, able to feel good about a new “beginning” with CW, maybe even unrealistically believing she and he would be the first ones to ever evade and live happily ever after. She was giddy. Night at hotel prior to leaving. Probably trying on that lingerie and anticipating her nights to come. Buying clothes and dressing him the way she wanted to see him. Etc

When it became painfully obvious that she was not getting her Disney ending and this too was “over” her mind could not take anymore “endings”. So much so that she took that gun and purposefully ended her mental misery.

It would be nice to think that LE would really start to pay more attention to employees facing tragic life event(s) or life changing event(s). Look for signs of depression, making life changing decisions not in their best interest (ie selling her home and land for less than 1/2 value), etc.

If she truly had long term depression what a missed opportunity to help her and maybe avoid this whole thing. That’s just MOO. I am standing by long-standing, deep rooted clinical depression.

Maybe she was an organ donor and this tragic ending gives others new life.

Last, Websleuths everywhere—-you have amazed me! I enjoyed watching this unfold through your eyes. Incredible site!

I’m not sure someone with “severe clinical depression” would be capable of pulling off this kind of plan. Even if it wasn’t the most sophisticated plan, it required energy and cognitive capacity, two attributes often lacking in people with severe depression.

 

[Iona]

He has nazi tatoos. He isnt a good person. He is much worse than you can even think.
There is no explaining that away

Indeed, it's also my opinion that this post should be filled with
" likes" , and we should Not forget that as much as we DON'T KNOW about VW , her secret life, and extra curricular activities. We DO KNOW that she was well aware of all of those tattoos, before , during , and after assisting his escape... That is all I need to know to understand that she was not just a willing accomplice, but that she was also not a " good person".

 

[Cindizzi]

Casey White could be charged with murder of Vicky White, even though she shot herself

It's possible White could also be held criminally responsible for former corrections officer Vicky White’s death too, WAAY 31 learned Tuesday.

www.waaytv.com

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Escape in the first degree is one of the delineated offenses in the felony murder statute, according to legal experts who reviewed the case with WAAY 31.

"In the course of the escape, if either Vicky or Casey White caused the death of any person, to include themselves, that's how it reads," former prosecutor Jay Town said. "By reading the statute, it is possible to charge Casey white with felony murder, and my guess is this would be a matter of first impression."

Town said he couldn't find another case in which an individual committed suicide and the co-conspirator was charged with their murder, "but it doesn’t mean it’s not legally possible."

The WAAY 31 newsroom reached out to Lauderdale County prosecutors to see if they are considering charging Casey White with murder for Vicky White. So far, they have not commented on that question.

 

[concernedmother]

local news at 5. Homeless person paid for 7 days. VW paid for 5 more.

Reports: Man checked into motel for Alabama fugitives

(WEHT) – During Tuesday’s press conference, Vanderburgh County Sheriff Dave Wedding said Casey and Vicky White did not have any help during their stay in Evansville, but the manager of …

www.tristatehomepage.com

The motel manager said the homeless person paid for seven days and Vicky paid for five. The manager also said he found out only yesterday that the fugitives had been staying at the motel.

 

[Grungster]

Casey’s first words were “Please help my wife. She just shot herself in the head and I didn’t do it.” (See link)

Edited due to information in this thread stating he showed no remorse for her death, which goes against the opinion I had written. Interesting.

Sheriff Details Chase That Ended With Officer Dead, Escaped Inmate in Custody

An Indiana sheriff described the brief but violent car chase that ended the manhunt for former corrections officer Vicky White and escaped inmate Casey White.

www.today.com

That is incredibly suspicious.

 

[SteveP]

How is the accomplice not arrested?

He is said to be homeless. I doubt he catches the 6 o'clock news on tv every night. Many people with far more means than he probably has, have never heard of Casey White or Vicki White, and wouldn't recognize them even without disguises. I don't really know what you think he is an accomplice to, but I'm not sure how it would benefit society by putting him behind bars. I say let him stay in the room that he paid for, if he wants to. JMO

 

[Imogenia]

Haaaaa too funny you posted this. I have found myself humming that song to myself all day. Then I clued in as to why. Oh and welcome to WS

Thank you.

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1524137395528126464

 

[bestill]

There is a bizarre, and bittersweet, irony to all of this.

Vicky White, by all accounts a decent and caring human being with a spotless personal and professional reputation until April 29th, ends up dead...and Casey White, serving a 75-year sentence and possibly the recipient of a future death sentence, is still alive with only minor injuries.

And he gets to write the last chapter. Sadly a 58 year old woman who lived a good life (as far as we know) and took care of her loved ones, will always have the last paragraph tagged with a convicted felon and an 11 day manhunt that ends with her death. No way this was worth it...

 

[BeckyF]

How is the accomplice not arrested?

Maybe he wasn’t aware they were fugitives. Being homeless, perhaps he had no access to TV. JMO

 

[PhoneJockey]

They probably were wining and dining well too. Not drive throughs at McDonalds. They really couldn't purchase anything because they were on the run and no where to put anything. They had to be able to get stuff out of the car fast. I cant imagine spending that much money in just a few days. I couldnt even do it on amazon.

BBM

I could

 

[Snoop Sister]

Since leaving keys in vehicles in carwash bays is fairly common, maybe they were hoping someone would steal the truck. Having it stick out of the bay was dangling a carrot in front of a thief. If the cops were onto them by that time, then some other person was going to deal with the backlash of driving a vehicle identified as belonging to two armed and dangerous indviduals. It would give them a head start in the Cadillac. MOO

I thought that possibly they left the keys in hopes of someone stealing the vehicle as well.