Recovered/Located AL - Casey White, prisoner, & Vicky Sue White (Deceased), CO w/sher office, Lauderdale, 29 Apr'22 *Reward* #6

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  • #381
Yes, and police pulled her from the passenger side; you can see on the released bodycam footage.
Yes I thought I was seeing things!
I’d like to know more about VW. Did we even know her maiden name? School? Other jobs? Was she a loner? We do know she was frugal. Did she always have a sad life?
 
  • #382
ITA, but, as someone who follows a lot of true crime, it amazes me the number of people who either don't read or watch news, or selectively read or watch news. When I was growing up, pre-cable and pre-CNN, everybody I knew watched the evening news every night, local and national, and we had the newspaper delivered daily. Now, the only news many people get is from social media sites, Facebook, Tik-Tok, Twitter, you name it. I know, in my own real life, probably half the people I ask would not have been able to pick either of them out of a line-up two days ago. I Guess is Ws'ers really may be a 'weird' bunch. LOL. JMO
Agreed.
 
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Yes I thought I was seeing things!
I’d like to know more about VW. Did we even know her maiden name? School? Other jobs? Was she a loner? We do know she was frugal. Did she always have a sad life?
Yes, it would be good to have these questions answered.
 
  • #384
Looking at our sunroofs today I thought of how much strength it would take to get in and out of it.
 
  • #385
A pair of unnamed law enforcement officials told the Associated Press Vicky and Casey are believed to have taken a "dry run" ahead of the escape, when she and the inmate slipped away from the facility for 40 minutes.


I have had thoughts since the beginning that she had probably been taking him out of the jail and having "fun" with him well before this given how comfortable and blasé she seemed to be in the video of them leaving the jail together
 
  • #386
Casey and Vicky White remained in touch via phone over the next two years, Singleton said. Wow shouldn't that have raised some red flags or is it allowed?
Prisoners are only allowed certain hours on a pay phone, calling collect. I imagine she smuggled a cell phone to him so they could communicate privately.
I agree, that pic looks like it’s of a young thing on her first day on the job, definitely not of a 56 year old. Surely there was a more recent such as a DL photo? Anybody on the run would be very pleased to have the Sheriff’s Dept run a photo so outdated…..what’s the point? Glancing at the photos and headlines leaves the initial impression CW took advantage of a naive, starry-eyed young prison guard. JMO
I think it was back in the first or second thread, there were recent pictures of her, looking older and harder, and a brief video from the hotel she stayed at the night before she broke him out.
Yes I thought I was seeing things!
I’d like to know more about VW. Did we even know her maiden name? School? Other jobs? Was she a loner? We do know she was frugal. Did she always have a sad life?
Her maiden name was Davis; there've been interviews with her mother. One of the aliases she used was April Davis.
 
  • #387
Ridgway was not elderly. She was 58 . VM was 56, also not elderly.

I'm 59 and I'm not elderly.

All three of us fit into the broad range of middle aged.

Just my opinion.

I'm 67, so its ok. I tend to think differently these days about age, particularly in judging my ability to defend myself if attacked.

Regardless, my point is that she was a woman living alone, unable to defend herself against someone as strong as CW. Even if she was pumping iron at the gym every week. She did not deserve this. Her murder was an evil, senseless act by CW.

It's an indictment of CW that he would attack and stab to death an innocent, defenseless woman just to rob her and make some money from her murder. People like him don't think the same way as the rest of us. They keep an eye out for anyone they can take advantage of and think only of the benefit to themselves. That doesn't change this late in life. He's an evil, dangerous man, not deserving of pity or empathy.
 
  • #388
I have had thoughts since the beginning that she had probably been taking him out of the jail and having "fun" with him well before this given how comfortable and blasé she seemed to be in the video of them leaving the jail together
I guess that’s certainly possible. She was taking a huge risk, though— unless she had a backup story like he had some planned appointment…

Also, though she may appear comfortable and blasé that could well have been an act for the surveillance camera. Her heart might have been pounding.
 
  • #389
Yes I thought I was seeing things!
I’d like to know more about VW. Did we even know her maiden name? School? Other jobs? Was she a loner? We do know she was frugal. Did she always have a sad life?

Maiden name was Davis. (One of her aliases was April Davis. I don’t think we know if that was ID taken from a real relative, or just a first name chosen randomly, and a surname she felt comfortable with.)

I haven’t heard anything about your other questions. At first, we often heard that she’d worked for the state/county for 25 years. Lately, the news seems to be saying that she was at the jail for 16 or 17 years. Possibly worked at some other job for the county?

If she wasn’t a loner, she certainly had very circumspect friends.
 
  • #390
Not even sure that tabloid is accepted MSM, and not sure that she said what they are reporting, but I did not get the sense she was blaming him for anything, based on her tone of voice. Immediately before the questionable comment, she calmly said "let's get out and run". Besides, it was her money. If she had not been agreeable to staying in the motel, they would not have stayed in the motel. JMO
that website is a well-known UK newspaper that is about as old as I am.
 
  • #391
Maiden name was Davis. (One of her aliases was April Davis. I don’t think we know if that was ID taken from a real relative, or just a first name chosen randomly, and a surname she felt comfortable with.)

I haven’t heard anything about your other questions. At first, we often heard that she’d worked for the state/county for 25 years. Lately, the news seems to be saying that she was at the jail for 16 or 17 years. Possibly worked at some other job for the county?

If she wasn’t a loner, she certainly had very circumspect friends.
I get the feeling work may have been her whole life, which makes it understandable that after awhile her perspective regarding inmates might have become skewed.
 
  • #392
Prisoners no longer have to do collect calling. They can buy calling cards and use those to call who they want.

I'm not sure about how the Alabama DOC operates exactly, but most prisons now have the ability to create an online account and send inmates money that way.

IIRC, their website has options to send specific things like shoes. I'll find that link.
 
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Prisoners no longer have to do collect calling. They can buy calling cards and use those to call who they want.

I'm not sure about how the Alabama DOC operates exactly, but most prisons now have the ability to create an online account and send inmates money that way.

IIRC, their website has options to send specific things like shoes. I'll find that link.


They also have options for calling cards, emessaging and video calls.
 
  • #395

Sheriff Weddings first PC. At about 2.30 and again at 7.23 he says it was the female driving the vehicle.
Clearly, hours later the corrected information was reported by Sheriff Wedding. I trust OP will edit their post to avoid perpetuating inaccurate info on the thread.

[Original story, published at 12:21 p.m ET]

Authorities are releasing new details of the final moments of Monday's police chase that ended fugitive Alabama inmate Casey White's 11 days on the run with a former corrections officer -- who investigators say may have ended her own life during the pursuit.

As Casey White tried to drive away from pursuing officers in the southern Indiana city of Evansville, his passenger -- the former corrections officer Vicky White -- indicated during a call with police dispatchers she had a gun, a sheriff said Tuesday.

By the time the chase ended in a wreck and officers approached the car, Vicky White "was unconscious with a gunshot wound to her head, and (Casey White) gave up without incident," Dave Wedding, sheriff of Indiana's Vanderburgh County, told CNN on Tuesday.

 
  • #396
Interesting. So they interpret it as her blaming him for deciding they would stay at a motel. Do you think this is correct? Anyone have thoughts?
I didn’t interpret it as her blaming him at all. I don’t think she sounded angry with him, I think the severity and finality of the situation was dawning on her and she was getting desperate. The hotel may have felt like “home” to them, a safe place where they wanted to get to. Jmo

ETA I can hear her say “back to the hotel” I think. I don’t hear what that source says.
 
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I find the bodycam footage too dark to make out what's what, but.....
Their car was under surveillance by a whole team of LE when they got into it to drive off and the chase quickly began, so how can anyone be in any doubt about who got into the driver's seat and who was driving, is someone muddying the reports or what?
Exactly. The LE who were staking out the motel should know who got in the drivers seat when they left. It’s not like they were switching places during the chase.
 
  • #399
Exactly. The LE who were staking out the motel should know who got in the drivers seat when they left. It’s not like they were switching places during the chase.

And consider the height difference. Seat adjustment should prove who was driving.

MOO
 
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