Recovered/Located AL - Casey White, prisoner, & Vicky Sue White (Deceased), CO w/sher office, Lauderdale, 29 Apr'22 *Reward* #6

[SMK777]

Vicky: “Airbags are going off. Let’s get out and run. He was by the [explitive] motel.”

BBM That is not what she stated.

I was never able to get what her words before, “the [expletive] hotel” were. Various articles say that they were:

-get us back to
- you had to stay in
- we should have stayed in
-it’s the guy from

I wish I knew what she really said.

 

[CharlestonGal]

He wasn't released; he was sprung.

On the slimmest chance that he didn't know about it beforehand, he surely did when she removed his handcuffs and shackles and they took off. They were fugitives together. IMO he was her accomplice, almost definitely in on the plan beforehand, but hiding out afterwards makes him culpable as well.

IANAL but IMO this is obvious.

Waiting for our WS lawyers to weigh in when they have an opportunity.

ETA: Hi @Rocky Mountain Hi seems we wrote at the same time, but you explained it more thoroughly, thanks

We probably have to factor in the fact he was sitting in that jail under an insanity defense in the first place. A defense attorney could have a field day with that in terms of Casey White not having the mental capacity to formulate a plan to escape or consent to removal from the prison. IANAL, but I might give that a shot. IMO

 

[Seattle1]

Description of the 7:20 min 911 recorded call. Again, -- only the first 30 seconds include audible VW.

Coroner: Alabama fugitive corrections official Vicky White died of suicide

(CNN) — Fugitive Alabama corrections official Vicky White died of […]

www.wishtv.com

Posted: May 12, 2022 / 12:09 PM EST / Updated: May 12, 2022 / 02:26 PM EST

(CNN) — Fugitive Alabama corrections official Vicky White died of suicide, an Indiana county coroner said Thursday, confirming authorities’ suspicions that she shot herself after a Monday car chase that ended 11 days on the run with an inmate she’s accused of freeing.

White, 56, who authorities said freed Alabama inmate Casey White in late April from the Alabama jail where she worked, died of a single gunshot wound to the head, the coroner’s office in Indiana’s Vanderburgh County said.

[..]

On Wednesday, Evansville officials released audio of a 911 call they say Vicky White made during the chase — audio which gives some insight into the seconds leading to her death, but does not clarify precisely when the gun was fired.

As officers were chasing a Cadillac driven by Casey White on Monday afternoon, they rammed the Cadillac into a ditch, and the vehicle rolled over, authorities said. Investigators believe Vicky White shot herself “once the vehicle crashed,” Vanderburgh County Sheriff Dave Wedding said Tuesday.

The 911 audio appears to start near the end of the chase. It begins with someone saying something indiscernible, and the dispatcher saying “Evansville 911.” No one appears to address the dispatcher, who says, “911” and “hello” seemingly without being answered.

Instead, a woman’s voice — which authorities say is Vicky White’s — is heard within the first six seconds saying things including, “Stop,” and “Wait, stop … air bags going to go off and kill us.”

Twelve seconds in, a loud noise is heard — the first of at least four loud noises to happen in about 15 seconds. It’s unclear in each instance what the noises represent, and it’s unclear from the audio when the car was rammed, when it rolled over, and when a gun was fired.

“God,” the woman says after the first noise. “Air bags are going off. Let’s get out and run.” She mentions a hotel.

The second noise is heard, and the woman shrieks. At least two more noises come, followed — now 30 seconds into the tape — by another shriek.

For the next 30 seconds, generally only muffled sounds of sirens are heard. A minute into the recording, a soft voice is heard — perhaps a moan — but it’s not clear whose voice it is.

Shortly after, distant voices are heard, along with occasional movement, though it’s unclear whether it’s inside or outside the vehicle. About one minute and 40 seconds into the recording, someone starts repeatedly saying phrases like “she is breathing” and “got a gun in her hand.”

The phone line stays open as officers work to get the pair out of the vehicle.

To be clear, Evansville Central Dispatch released the 7:20 minute audio recording of Vicky White’s 911 call she made when being pursued by LE. However, of this released 911 call, TAKE NOTE THAT ONLY ABOUT the first 30 seconds includes VW (audible) talking to 911.

The remainder of the audio recording is after the crash and when the first LE responders are attending the scene. This part of the dispatch recording can actually be both seen and heard by viewing the body cam videos by Evansville/US Marshalls also released.

Continuing to try and attribute anything beyond the first 30 seconds to Vicky serves only to perpetuate incorrect information and clog this thread.

AUDIO: Vicky White called 911 before crash

EVANSVILLE, Ind. (WEHT) — Casey White and Vicky White led police on a chase that ended abruptly in a crash, leaving Vicky with a gunshot wound and Casey with non-life threatening injuries. Ev…

www.tristatehomepage.com

 

[Snoop Sister]

Define "released". Normally, a release of a prisoner is accompanied by paperwork. If he were to plead ignorance of the escape plan, his argument would be, that all he knew is, that he was scheduled for a medical appointment, and was getting in the police car to go there. That's not a "release".

Then, suddenly, the assistant jail manager drives off with him, ditches the police vehicle, puts him in a civilian vehicle and from his perspective, hijacks him.

That's not a "release".

A doctor appointment isn't a "release". And most legit releases don't involve the deputy director of the jail racing off with the "former" prisoner on some kind of joy ride.

How do releases occur, anyway? Are the parolees dropped off at a bus station? Do they just walk out the door of the jail or prison, and fend for themselves, no matter how remote the location may be?

When putting the "release" angle under a magnifying glass, I don't see how it would hold up in court. But it was an intriguing suggestion. If you have a better argument, I'm game.

I am well aware of the official inmate correctional services release procedures. I have professional experience in that regard. Kinda playing the devils advocate here. But, I maintain that a good defence lawyer may be able to work it.

Good response on your post though

 

[SMK777]

Seasoned correction officer didn't just spring a dangerous felon, she armed herself with cash, disguises, aliases and an arsenal.

Is the love? Or rage?

Who used whom here?

It's so easy to soften VW's culpability-- by blaming her actions on lonely heart syndrome or menopause or coercion/manipulation by a felon, but we all saw the video of her leading him out of the jailhouse. We hear about her sold house, well under market value, her emptied bank accounts, her abandoned dog and mother. She bought weapons and wigs and men's clothes. But perhaps most alarming we heard her owm voice. "Let's run." Are we still going to count that as a lonely-heart maneuver?

Was the gun to her head supposed to be for LE's benefit? Forgetting they couldn't see through the tinted windows? Then an airbag forced the trigger? If it was willful, where was her dying pledge to CW? Where was the apology for leaving him to life in prison, now with no friends?

Were they leaving town? Had they been delayed in Indiana, waiting on sonething to aid in their forward progress?

Were they feelong emboldened, and didn't arm themselves to the hilt for that leg of the journey?

Was VW on a suicide mission from the start? Dating back possibly two years or more? Or did she think that was her only way out, in the moment?

Was she prepared for a shoot-out and wound up under-armed and vulnerable when the moment developed? Did she take the bullet she had earmarked for LE? Did she wrest the weapon from CW? Did she expect him to die by his own hand too? Suicide pact? Did they say their "I love you forever"s at the start or at the hotel -- to be battle ready when the last stand emerged?

What if VW's power went to her head? It would take steel nerves IMO or a compassionate heart that wore out --
to control where people go, what they wear, what they eat.

Is she a zookeeper who, on her last day, lets all the animals go free?

Or did she begin to fantasize about walking a felon out simply because she could? Did she find a kindred soul, in a medicated giant? Or did she enlist him to carry out her endgame?

She was not timid walking him out of jail nor IMO on the audio. To me, she was still giving instructions. To CW.

Maybe she never had a long game.

Maybe she was surprised they weren't found sooner. Was prepared for and waiting for the shoot-out and had no intention of surviving it.

While tragic for those who knew and loved her, and a betrayal of the same, maybe she went out on her terms, precisely as she set out to do.

Can't fathom it but she had a 1000 ways to prevent it but didn't.

Weird irony, however, and never minding a lot of details (like a car crash, a parking lot and a situation that lierally wemt sideways) that she freed a felon and seemingly kept him in her custody until returning him to custody.

Maybe VW started to feel like a prisoner in her own life -- get up, go to work, eat supper, lather, rinse, repeat -- and she wanted to break free -- and die doing something outrageous. Out of character. Awfultacular.

CW will go back to his life as it was.

Perhaps VW didn't want the life she had anymore. So she killed it (the life) and then herself.

I'm thankful no one else was injured.

Not counting all the hearts.

JMO

Excellent post that expresses many legitimate questions and ruminations.

Just one thing: You are by no means the only poster here (there have been 3 or 4) who expressed a degree of surprise and disappointment on hearing VW say in the audio, “The airbags are going off; let’s get out and run”.

For me, it wasn’t surprising at all, because by then she had flagrantly broken so many rules and laws that it was par for the course. What reason would she have to suddenly respect authority with regard to the CW situation?

 

[SteveP]

With all due respect. I'm sure Sheriff Singleton is a nice and respected member of his community. He's led an interesting life and with the limited exposure we've had of him in the past weeks, I would guess he's a wonderful grandfather and good friend to many, but MOO he is not up to the standards that his position requires. His press conferences were peppered with inaccurate information. He bears a degree of responsibility for this situation as do other county employees within the county sheriff's office.

I wasn't about to touch that one, so glad you did. You said what I wanted to say, without making it sound like snark. Thank you. JMO

 

[Snoop Sister]

I wasn't about to touch that one, so glad you did. You said what I wanted to say, without making it sound like snark. Thank you. JMO

I was appalled by some of the remarks made about the said sheriff on social media. Some people are so disgusting. I am glad someone has spoken up as well.

 

[Elley Mae]

I am well aware of the official inmate correctional services release procedures. I have professional experience in that regard. Kinda playing the devils advocate here. But, I maintain that a good defence lawyer may be able to work it.

Good response on your post though

Question if you have knowledge.

Do prisoners have to submit a list of ppl that they can call? Can they call anyone?

 

[concernedmother]

With all due respect. I'm sure Sheriff Singleton is a nice and respected member of his community. He's led an interesting life and with the limited exposure we've had of him in the past weeks, I would guess he's a wonderful grandfather and good friend to many, but MOO he is not up to the standards that his position requires. His press conferences were peppered with inaccurate information. He bears a degree of responsibility for this situation as do other county employees within the county sheriff's office.

There needs to be an internal investigation at the very least and possibly retraining. Sheriff wasn't the only one asleep at the wheel. She broke protocol by taking him out by herself and someone let her get away with it. If they would have spoken up immediately this would have had a different outcome. jmo

 

[Peppery]

LE would have found it. Sheriff Wedding said it looked like they didn’t plan to return to that room.

Why Casey White was in Vicky White's Alabama county jail to begin with, explained

Alabama Judge Ben Graves allowed Casey Cole White’s transfer from state prison to the Lauderdale County Detention Center in Florence after a dispute between his defense attorneys and the warden about restrictions placed on a visit with their client, court records obtained by Fox News Digital show.

www.foxnews.com

A subsequent search warrant served at the motel room found nothing of evidentiary value, Wedding said. The couple had packed up everything relevant before they left.

Wow, what a coincidence!

 

[Peppery]

I’m not trying to be morbid. I am interested to know if and when the autopsy report of VW will be released. My reason for this is in a past post of mine I said that it was said on the news she shot herself in the forehead. I have tried but cannot find that article. The autopsy report will state locations on her head of the entry wound and exit wound. I believe the entry wound will show if she shot herself on purpose or accidently.

I keep seeing this said. Is there an MSM link to the forehead part?

 

[Auntie Cipation]

If you use Chrome, you can open the link in an incognito window and it will work.

I wish this was true (I often would like to be able to read the Washington Post) but I just tried an incognito window in Chrome (as well as clearing all browsing history in Firefox) and neither let me read that article without the paywall. It may be true for some people but not all. Maybe things like which version of browser, etc.

Darn.

 

[porkypies]

I think a good defence lawyer could do wonders. There is no actual proof though that he was in on the plan. Although, of course I do think he was. However, in actual fact he did not escape but was released.

Was CW really released when he was still in the company/care of a senior jail officer ? (he could not necessarily know she had been sacked) maybe he was happy to go along with following all her instructions.
I do wonder if LE changed their mind about who was driving the car so that CW rather than VW could be blamed for the chase? The initial reports from LE were very clear that VW 'the female' was driving.

 

[CharlestonGal]

DBM

 

[passionflower]

Seasoned correction officer didn't just spring a dangerous felon, she armed herself with cash, disguises, aliases and an arsenal.

Is that love? Or rage?

Who used whom here?

It's so easy to soften VW's culpability-- by blaming her actions on lonely heart syndrome or menopause or coercion/manipulation by a felon, but we all saw the video of her leading him out of the jailhouse. We hear about her sold house, well under market value, her emptied bank accounts, her abandoned dog and mother. She bought weapons and wigs and men's clothes. But perhaps most alarming we heard her own voice. "Let's run." Are we still going to count that as a lonely-heart maneuver?

Was the gun to her head supposed to be for LE's benefit? Forgetting they couldn't see through the tinted windows? Then an airbag forced the trigger? If it was willful, where was her dying pledge to CW? Where was the apology for leaving him to life in prison, now with no friends?

Were they leaving town? Had they been delayed in Indiana, waiting on sonething to aid in their forward progress?

Were they feeling emboldened, and didn't arm themselves to the hilt for that leg of the journey?

Was VW on a suicide mission from the start? Dating back possibly two years or more? Or did she think that was her only way out, in the moment?

Was she prepared for a shoot-out and wound up under-armed and vulnerable when the moment developed? Did she take the bullet she had earmarked for LE? Did she wrest the weapon from CW? Did she expect him to die by his own hand too? Suicide pact? Did they say their "I love you forever"s at the start or at the hotel -- to be battle ready when the last stand emerged?

What if VW's power went to her head? It would take steel nerves IMO or a compassionate heart that wore out -- to control where people go, what they wear, what they eat.

Is she a zookeeper who, on her last day, lets all the animals go free?

Or did she begin to fantasize about walking a felon out simply because she could? Did she find a kindred soul, in a medicated giant? Or did she enlist him to carry out her endgame?

She was not timid walking him out of jail nor IMO on the audio. To me, she was still giving instructions. To CW.

Maybe she never had a long game.

Maybe she was surprised they weren't found sooner. Was prepared for and waiting for the shoot-out and had no intention of surviving it.

While tragic for those who knew and loved her, and a betrayal of the same, maybe she went out on her terms, precisely as she set out to do.

Can't fathom it but she had a 1000 ways to prevent it but didn't.

Weird irony, however, and never minding a lot of details (like a car crash, a parking lot and a situation that literally went sideways) that she freed a felon and seemingly kept him in her custody until returning him to custody.

Maybe VW started to feel like a prisoner in her own life -- get up, go to work, eat supper, lather, rinse, repeat -- and she wanted to break free -- and die doing something outrageous. Out of character. Awfultacular.

CW will go back to his life as it was.

Perhaps VW didn't want the life she had anymore. So she killed it (the life) and then herself.

I'm thankful no one else was injured.

Not counting all the hearts.

JMO

Great post!

 

[Megnut]

Excellent post that expresses many legitimate questions and ruminations.

Just one thing: You are by no means the only poster here (there have been 3 or 4) who expressed a degree of surprise and disappointment on hearing VW say in the audio, “The airbags are going off; let’s get out and run”.

For me, it wasn’t surprising at all, because by then she had flagrantly broken so many rules and laws that it was par for the course. What reason would she have to suddenly respect authority with regard to the CW situation?

I don't think I'm surprised by the "let's run" as I'm convinced of her role. Calling the shots, giving the instructions.

I'm also convinced they didn't willfully call 911 -- further, I don't think they heard the 911 operator --

It's stunning that, within 31 seconds, it was done. I suspect they were impacted, which set off the first round of airbags... and then, I don't know. Really hard to make sense of the audio.

I wonder still if CW got knocked hard -- airbag, steering wheel, vehicle roll.

Plus he had to be dazed from the gun blast in close quarters--

Hard to determine when she shot the gun -- but honestly, if you're holding a gun when an airbag deploys into you, that's got deadly written all over it.

JMO

 

[sds71]

2022-NR-0510

DATE: May 10, 2022 SUBJECT: Alabama Fugitives Arrested in Vanderburgh County RELEASE NUMBER: 2022-NR-0510 CONTACT: Sheriff Dave Wedding AUTHORITY: Sheriff

vanderburghsheriff.org

Please utilize the following link to a Google Drive folder containing downloadable files of photographs, available body camera footage, and public copy of the incident report 22-61869 White - Google Drive

An alternate file of the images displayed at the Press Conference can be found below.

New documents, filed by Vanderburgh County Sheriff’s Office and seen by The Independent, reveal that the 38-year-old also had “a small amount of blood” on the back of his head when he was taken into police custody on Monday at the end of a 10-day manhunt, according to police.

Casey White claims he was also shot in the head, says police report

An account from one officer on the scene also indicates that Vicky White shot herself after the car came to a stop and that Casey White appeared to have his hands out of the window at the moment she pulled the trigger

www.independent.co.uk

 

[bestill]

If the coroner determined that VM killed herself would the autopsy results even be released? Curious about that.

 

[Megnut]

2022-NR-0510

DATE: May 10, 2022 SUBJECT: Alabama Fugitives Arrested in Vanderburgh County RELEASE NUMBER: 2022-NR-0510 CONTACT: Sheriff Dave Wedding AUTHORITY: Sheriff

vanderburghsheriff.org

Please utilize the following link to a Google Drive folder containing downloadable files of photographs, available body camera footage, and public copy of the incident report 22-61869 White - Google Drive

An alternate file of the images displayed at the Press Conference can be found below.

New documents, filed by Vanderburgh County Sheriff’s Office and seen by The Independent, reveal that the 38-year-old also had “a small amount of blood” on the back of his head when he was taken into police custody on Monday at the end of a 10-day manhunt, according to police.

Casey White claims he was also shot in the head, says police report

An account from one officer on the scene also indicates that Vicky White shot herself after the car came to a stop and that Casey White appeared to have his hands out of the window at the moment she pulled the trigger

www.independent.co.uk

Could VW's injury have been a through-and-through? And in the tipped-upside confusion, the bullet did in fact graze CW? So much so -- the zing, the noise, the blast -- he thought he'd been shot?

I wonder how the coroner can be certain that the crash itself or airbags didn't cause the weapon to fire?

Unless it did happen after the vehicle came to a full stop. Not a single word to CW from VW before firing her deadly shot?

The only thing that seems abundantly clear is the CW didn't wanr to die.

JMO

 

[Cindizzi]

Must be talking about CW’s wig covering her face? JMO

3:58. I’d like to move that off her face, can’t even tell if she’s conscious. Somebody got a long stick?

4:42. Can you hook that back?

4:48. Looks like an exit off the top of her head.