AL - Kahleb Rowan Collins, 1, his dad & sis were killed in a car crash, he wasn't with them, Fayette County, 8 Dec 2024

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That article also confirms Ryleigh wasnt restrained during the crash

Under this article, there is another article:


Now, this could be strictly coincidence, and probably is. But... It is 3 hours away; however, we know that they think poor Kahleb has been missing for months.
 
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was just headed to post this news. I am glad she is recovered enough to face the music, Steven got off easy, took the coward's way out and dragged his daughter with him.

The criminally negligent homicide charge, according to the District Attorney’s Office, is related to the death of Ryleigh, who they say was unrestrained in the vehicle Steven Collins was driving in the fatal crash.
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The District Attorney’s Office says more charges are possible. The case remains under investigation.
Missing 1-year-old Fayette Co. baby believed to be dead; Mother charged after his disappearance

“This investigation has been particularly challenging as it involved the tragic deaths of two young children,” 24th Judicial Circuit District Attorney Andy Hamlin said in a statement. “I want to commend the efforts and cooperation shown by every agency involved: the Fayette County Sheriff’s Office, Alabama Bureau of Investigation and the Alabama State Troopers.”
https://www.cbs42.com/news/crime/mo...l-missing-1-year-old-child-in-fayette-county/

I haven't read yet when her bond hearing is set for and I can't access AL court files without creating an account which I hesitate to do.
 
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Now isn't that just nice.. She survived, Dad's dead, so she's going to carry the penalty.
:/
I don't see a problem with her facing the music for her actions, or inactions. She can't be held responsible for another's actions, only her own. We don't know what the 2 adults in the car had planned that day, but the end result of that car trip is that 2 people are dead, and all 3 were unrestrained. AFAIK, there has been no mention of a car seat ever being in the car. Bailey may wish she had also died in that accident, for a variety of reasons.
 
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I don't see a problem with her facing the music for her actions, or inactions. She can't be held responsible for another's actions, only her own. We don't know what the 2 adults in the car had planned that day, but the end result of that car trip is that 2 people are dead, and all 3 were unrestrained. AFAIK, there has been no mention of a car seat ever being in the car. Bailey may wish she had also died in that accident, for a variety of reasons.
M00, I do however take issue with her taking all the responsibility and now he's dead he's off the hook. How convenient for him.
 
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M00, I do however take issue with her taking all the responsibility and now he's dead he's off the hook. How convenient for him.
She can’t be charged with his crimes, only her own. She is at least partially culpable and should be held accountable.
 
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Per article from local television station, the mother has been charged in the deaths of the children.
Thanks for linking this.
From the link :

The District Attorney’s Office says 22-year-old Wendy Pamela Bailey is charged with aggravated child abuse (Class A felony), first-degree domestic violence (Class A felony), abuse of a corpse (Class C felony), and criminally negligent homicide (Class A misdemeanor).
Rbm.
Wonder if she helped dispose of that little boy ? :mad:
Some serious charges there.

Hope they can get her to divulge !
Omo.
Justice for Kahleb.
 
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I don't see a problem with her facing the music for her actions, or inactions. She can't be held responsible for another's actions, only her own. We don't know what the 2 adults in the car had planned that day, but the end result of that car trip is that 2 people are dead, and all 3 were unrestrained. AFAIK, there has been no mention of a car seat ever being in the car. Bailey may wish she had also died in that accident, for a variety of reasons.
I agree and we need to remember that there is a missing child who may have been missing for months and her father was living there at the time. They aren't innocent. IMO
 
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Per article from local television station, the mother has been charged in the deaths of the children.
Wow, her booking photo surprised me. I guess I expected more injuries to be apparent. No visible bruising at all on her face. If it weren’t for the cervical collar and orange jumpsuit, looks just like one of her Facebook photos.

I wonder if her Dad is talking and that’s where the charges for Kahleb stem from?
 
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I agree and we need to remember that there is a missing child who may have been missing for months and her father was living there at the time. They aren't innocent. IMO
yep..and i have no doubt that, unless something else crazy or unexpected happens, she will go for a "battered woman" defense, that she was too scared to intervene. its probably her best chance, legally, maybe with the exception of taking a plea. if they do not find kahleb's body, i worry a plea may be offered.
even if she was a victim of domestic abuse, its hard to feel an abundance of pity when both her children are now dead, with a considerable space of time in between to reconsider her loyalties and seek resources...
 
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Wow, her booking photo surprised me. I guess I expected more injuries to be apparent. No visible bruising at all on her face. If it weren’t for the cervical collar and orange jumpsuit, looks just like one of her Facebook photos.

I wonder if her Dad is talking and that’s where the charges for Kahleb stem from?
LE has been talking to her, as well. I would assume that she now has a PD, and I have no doubt that anything she may have shared with LE prior to the filing of charges will be litigated. @Knox, I doubt we will ever hear the whole story on this one, as there will likely be a plea, imo. They threw everything at her. Imo.
 
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LE has been talking to her, as well. I would assume that she now has a PD, and I have no doubt that anything she may have shared with LE prior to the filing of charges will be litigated. @Knox, I doubt we will ever hear the whole story on this one, as there will likely be a plea, imo. They threw everything at her. Imo.

The two people living in the home who know what happened, have a lot to lose. I agree with you, the real truth will be whitewashed. They will both point to some degree, the finger at Collins.

But they must have some sort of independent digital evidence? I want to know the last time either of the kids had a medical appointment.
 
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Wow, her booking photo surprised me. I guess I expected more injuries to be apparent. No visible bruising at all on her face. If it weren’t for the cervical collar and orange jumpsuit, looks just like one of her Facebook photos.

I wonder if her Dad is talking and that’s where the charges for Kahleb stem from?
She appears to be lying down for the photo? Basing this on how her hair is arranged
 
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On the top-right of her head, her hair looks to be shaved and there are red marks on the scalp. Does anyone else see that? Maybe it was shaved in the hospital? This is the best quality I've found so far.
Edit to add link: 1-year-old boy missing since September believed to be dead; mother charged
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they often shave when they need to clean & stitch a headwound. After you can’t wash your hair till the wound is healed enough. In that case it would explain her hair. Possibly still full of dirt, long time not washed/brushed & therefor becoming one big dreadlock. Imo.
 
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yep..and i have no doubt that, unless something else crazy or unexpected happens, she will go for a "battered woman" defense, that she was too scared to intervene. its probably her best chance, legally, maybe with the exception of taking a plea. if they do not find kahleb's body, i worry a plea may be offered.
even if she was a victim of domestic abuse, its hard to feel an abundance of pity when both her children are now dead, with a considerable space of time in between to reconsider her loyalties and seek resources...
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Having 2 kids at the age of 22 and being with a man nearly twice her age who's been described as a narcissist leads me to believe she was hardly in a place to make rational decisions about herself or her kids.

A lot is unknown about the relationships among the three adults in that house (who was financially dependent on whom, etc.) but to assume she is as responsible as the "man" who killed himself and their daughter and tried to kill her is not a position I agree with. IMHO MOO and all of that.
 
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<modsnip - personalizing>

Having 2 kids at the age of 22 and being with a man nearly twice her age who's been described as a narcissist leads me to believe she was hardly in a place to make rational decisions about herself or her kids.

A lot is unknown about the relationships among the three adults in that house (who was financially dependent on whom, etc.) but to assume she is as responsible as the "man" who killed himself and their daughter and tried to kill her is not a position I agree with. IMHO MOO and all of that.
none of which IMO give her a pass on the duty to protect her children IMO. The children weren't in the position to protect themselves. That duty fell to the adults in that household, specifically their mother and grandfather in this case. MOO

as @bombardier said above:
its hard to feel an abundance of pity when both her children are now dead, with a considerable space of time in between to reconsider her loyalties and seek resources...
 
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yep..and i have no doubt that, unless something else crazy or unexpected happens, she will go for a "battered woman" defense, that she was too scared to intervene. its probably her best chance, legally, maybe with the exception of taking a plea. if they do not find kahleb's body, i worry a plea may be offered.
even if she was a victim of domestic abuse, its hard to feel an abundance of pity when both her children are now dead, with a considerable space of time in between to reconsider her loyalties and seek resources...

i'm feeling too sentimental for Pam and her Dad. I keep feeling that Dad was there, trying to protect Pam from this animal of a human. And Pam is just so young... and much younger when she started out with this guy.

I guess...for now... I am hoping the battered woman defense does come forward. She has lost both her children, and will have to suffer with that her entire life.

Hoping Dad is providing full disclosure. Pam's involvement with Kahleb's life and probable death will be the key to me changing my mind, of course.
 

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