AL - Kahleb Rowan Collins, 1, his dad & sis were killed in a car crash, he wasn't with them, Fayette County, 8 Dec 2024

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EVIL is probably the closest thing to the truth! Mental disease or defect might be a close second & third but not in the way they mean.

How can they plead not guilty? We know for a fact that she was aware of the brutal torture he was inflicting on their precious baby - if the text messages taken from their (WB & SC) phones do in fact belong to them. It hurts my heart, reading & seeing what they did to beautiful Kahleb & his precious sister, Ryleigh, who appeared to be exposed to the abuse, if not actually physically abused herself, prior to the night she was murdered. They should be pleading guilty and throwing themselves on the mercy of the courts. IMOO
IMO, this is the prelude to setting up plea bargains. When there is no defense, you have to throw a lot of spaghetti at the wall to see which noodle sticks.
 
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Both Wendy Bailey and John Bailey have plead Not Guilty by Reason of Mental Disease or Defect. Their arraignments set for August 7th have been waived.
Oh yeah, they're defective alright. Defective in many ways. However, they are evil first and foremost, to allow abuse and negligence to go on under their noses, or to be the perpetrators. This does not excuse them in any way, shape or form. It does not absolve them of guilt.
 
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Oh yeah, they're defective alright. Defective in many ways. However, they are evil first and foremost, to allow abuse and negligence to go on under their noses, or to be the perpetrators. This does not excuse them in any way, shape or form. It does not absolve them of guilt.
yep completely morally defective and bankrupt, but not IMO legally so. Agree w @Knox this is the prelude to the plea negotiations.
 
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I don't get it. Why on earth would anyone abuse/hurt an innocent baby?? It seems the father had it out for that poor child. If they didn't want the baby, I guarantee there were lots of folks who would love to have adopted him. He could have had a great life with a loving family.

The article at this link said the father was driving over 90 mph when he went off the road and hit a tree. He sounds like a complete psychopath. Nobody was strapped in. The mother is being charged with the little girl's death, too. It is just so sad that monsters like this can bear children and destroy their innocent lives. Details of abuse revealed in case of missing Fayette toddler Kahleb Collins

There are several photos of the wrecked vehicle and the children on Facebook. Kahleb looks sad and looks like he has at least one black eye in one of the photos as well as a circular mark on his little cheek (cigarette burn??) I have no doubt that he was tortured. :'(

JMO.
 
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"The mother and grandfather of a dead baby boy are attempting to avoid possible criminal responsibility over his death by citing mental health problems."
With sad eyes, title states
No comment
 
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If the baby did indeed have a lot of medical problems, I’m sure he needed more attention and extra care. If the parents are deranged, there may have been anger & resentment towards him. Sick, I know.
 
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If the baby did indeed have a lot of medical problems, I’m sure he needed more attention and extra care. If the parents are deranged, there may have been anger & resentment towards him. Sick, I know.
This is just MO but I honestly think that the problems Kahleb had were a recent onset caused by the monsters he was living with beating him until he couldn’t move. There are a couple pictures of him as an infant, then as a toddler where he was sitting on the back of a trike with his sister, sitting in a chair on his own & one held in WB’s arms. He had no physical deformities in these pictures that would’ve been apparent if he had the issues SC said he had that were going to take a long time to recover from. Yes, he could’ve had other medical problems that weren’t apparent, and absolute they are stressful for parents but IMO that isn’t going to be the case.
 
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This is just MO but I honestly think that the problems Kahleb had were a recent onset caused by the monsters he was living with beating him until he couldn’t move. There are a couple pictures of him as an infant, then as a toddler where he was sitting on the back of a trike with his sister, sitting in a chair on his own & one held in WB’s arms. He had no physical deformities in these pictures that would’ve been apparent if he had the issues SC said he had that were going to take a long time to recover from. Yes, he could’ve had other medical problems that weren’t apparent, and absolute they are stressful for parents but IMO that isn’t going to be the case.
I think any degeneration in his health and wellbeing was the result of long-term torture and abuse. It's easy to explain away constant bruising, malnutrition and muscle wastage and mobility issues if you tell everyone your kid has some progressive disease, so sad, nothing to be done.

MOO
 
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This is just MO but I honestly think that the problems Kahleb had were a recent onset caused by the monsters he was living with beating him until he couldn’t move. There are a couple pictures of him as an infant, then as a toddler where he was sitting on the back of a trike with his sister, sitting in a chair on his own & one held in WB’s arms. He had no physical deformities in these pictures that would’ve been apparent if he had the issues SC said he had that were going to take a long time to recover from. Yes, he could’ve had other medical problems that weren’t apparent, and absolute they are stressful for parents but IMO that isn’t going to be the case.
I did say “If”.
 
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Long rant.

IMO:

Preacher Joel Isham @ Glenn Falls Church is the one who fostered both Kahleb and Ryleigh until JB became custodian.
Isham preached at the Feb 2025 Candle Vigil for the children and said that even if the children were abused they forgave their parents/grandfather because he saw LOVE between them all and if the children can forgive them "why can't we?".(OMG)

As Wendy held down her job with the county she knew of Kahleb's tortureous abuse, his death and his disposal so is this type of 'mental defect" she claims to have get turned off while working?

JB obviously passed the mental smell test with CPS and the Family Court judge with what I believe to be the endorsement from Preacher Isham because JB got the guardianship of both children after Isham had temporary custody.

If I were a praying gal I would nightly pray that this case goes to trial but something tells me when push comes to shove the state won't want to open Pandora's Box anymore than it is on their neglectful and incompetent CPS agency and I can see Preacher Isham while visiting WB & JB in jail is telling them that his God wants them to make a deal knowing then that he won't have to do the "so help me God" on the stand during a trial.

@ 11:40 Preacher Isham and forgiveness.

 
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This is just MO but I honestly think that the problems Kahleb had were a recent onset caused by the monsters he was living with beating him until he couldn’t move. There are a couple pictures of him as an infant, then as a toddler where he was sitting on the back of a trike with his sister, sitting in a chair on his own & one held in WB’s arms. He had no physical deformities in these pictures that would’ve been apparent if he had the issues SC said he had that were going to take a long time to recover from. Yes, he could’ve had other medical problems that weren’t apparent, and absolute they are stressful for parents but IMO that isn’t going to be the case.
It's worth remembering that a baby that appears perfectly healthy at birth can go on to develop a range of medical conditions in the first couple of years. For example, most mitochondrial diseases emerge within the first year or so, eg Charlie Gard and Alfie Evans.
 
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It's worth remembering that a baby that appears perfectly healthy at birth can go on to develop a range of medical conditions in the first couple of years. For example, most mitochondrial diseases emerge within the first year or so, eg Charlie Gard and Alfie Evans.
what you say is true, but in this case, not a single soul has claimed Kahleb had any health issues except those accused of the most heinous abuse that is alleged to have killed him. so I think unless something comes out in trial that indicates medical records support that health issues claim we can safely chalk it up to straight up lies made up by his murderers to cover up his absence. JMO
 
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JB obviously passed the mental smell test with CPS and the Family Court judge with what I believe to be the endorsement from Preacher Isham because JB got the guardianship of both children after Isham had temporary custody.

If I were a praying gal I would nightly pray that this case goes to trial but something tells me when push comes to shove the state won't want to open Pandora's Box anymore than it is on their neglectful and incompetent CPS agency and I can see Preacher Isham while visiting WB & JB in jail is telling them that his God wants them to make a deal knowing then that he won't have to do the "so help me God" on the stand during a trial.

@ 11:40 Preacher Isham and forgiveness.

BBM
After following Harmony Montgomery’s horrific case and many others with children in the system who end up abused, missing & deceased I’ve completely lost my faith in our Child Welfare Services. 7 yr old Troy Kohler was left with his adopted parents after he was found to be at Moderate Risk!! You are right! It would be insane to take this to trial.

If it does go to trial, I’m figuring we aren’t going to like what was going on in the Collins-Bailey house that caused the babies to be removed then returned under the guidance of John Bailey!
 
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what you say is true, but in this case, not a single soul has claimed Kahleb had any health issues except those accused of the most heinous abuse that is alleged to have killed him. so I think unless something comes out in trial that indicates medical records support that health issues claim we can safely chalk it up to straight up lies made up by his murderers to cover up his absence. JMO
I agree that we may find out more from Kahleb's medical records at the trial - assuming that he was receiving medical attention and care. But if he was, shouldn't medical staff have picked up on any signs of abuse happening at that time? It's possible that his family didn't take him for the expected and routine baby development checks, and unfortunately it doesn't sound as though there are sufficient remains for a meaningful post mortem.
 
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I agree that we may find out more from Kahleb's medical records at the trial - assuming that he was receiving medical attention and care. But if he was, shouldn't medical staff have picked up on any signs of abuse happening at that time? It's possible that his family didn't take him for the expected and routine baby development checks, and unfortunately it doesn't sound as though there are sufficient remains for a meaningful post mortem.
They definitely did not have regular well care visits for him, at least not within six months of his death. Certainly not for any of the injuries they inflicted on that sweet child.

I still don’t get why they abused Kahleb? I look forward to hearing from both of their families. They must have some insight?
 
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They definitely did not have regular well care visits for him, at least not within six months of his death. Certainly not for any of the injuries they inflicted on that sweet child.

I still don’t get why they abused Kahleb? I look forward to hearing from both of their families. They must have some insight?
yes, I truly want to understand what the motivation was. What was their excuse that in their minds made this excusable?
 
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I’ve lost track of where we are in this case? Still waiting for the two subhumans to be mentally evaluated?

I was thinking back to the beginning of this case, can you believe we ever gave Wendy the benefit of doubt? So grateful those text messages were discovered, the thought of her ever bearing more children is horrifying.
 

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