Found Deceased AL - Kamille "Cupcake" McKinney, 3, kidnapped from birthday party, Birmingham, 12 Oct 2019 #2

[CSIDreamer]

I don't know if they live in the apartments but the livestream I'm watching has a huge hoard of people kept away from the apartments behind caution (Or crime scene?) tape.

The one I'm watching characterized them as concerned community members, not from the apartments.

 

[alyssa5597]

ABC 33/40 livestream is getting rowdy... crowd freaking out that they heard screaming?

 

[oviedo]

Direct video:Anvato Universal Player
Active search underway for Kamille “Cupcake” McKinney

Thank you ! I interrupted the sequential updating in the media thread for Cupcake to post these links for anyone joining us as we wait.

 

[gitana1]

So

So very disturbing. I guess I have liked a very sheltered life. Thank GOD! I would like to find the statistics for my area. The age range for females is horrifying. At that age I had no idea what sex was.

But let’s put this into perspective. From the article:

“In the U.S., we have found that there is a typical model,” Potter said. “The average age is 12 to 14 in relation to females. It’s usually a young girl who has come from an abusive, dysfunctional family setting, and she’s easily lured into trafficking because of it. Sometimes she’s a runaway or a girl on the street. She is vulnerable. The trafficker will pose as someone who will care for her. … And he will take care of her: he will buy her stuff and make her believe that he will never hurt her.”

Usually, after he has emotionally bound the girl to him, the trafficker, or “pimp,” makes her sell herself.

Drugs are often a factor with victims, Potter said. Many of the women rescued by The WellHouse have been victims of child or sexual abuse or some type of domestic violence. Many are homeless, struggling with substance abuse, or dealing with mental-health concerns.

“There is still a mindset to view these girls as prostitutes, but these are people who are actually struggling,” Potter said.

Actually snatching small, wanted children off the street and selling them in sex rings? That’s really mythical. As much as people like to describe these powerful conglomerates the reality of trafficking is really much more gritty and low rent.

Btw? I am skeptical of the narrative of the woman in the story. They’re forcing her to prostitute still at 55? Flying her around the world? It would be more expensive to house her and pay for her travel than a middle aged prostitute is likely to get. She also looks super fresh for someone who has been dragged around the world, repeatedly drugged and raped for decades.

It’s a fanciful narrative. And a lot of trouble to go through with a woman from an educated, successful family who could case them a lot of trouble.

Traffickers tend to do “business” using easier prey - like the article says.

Human trafficking victims involved in selling sex are predominately minorities, and/or LGBTQ persons (in the US) who are typically at least teenaged and come from extreme family dysfunction and/or suffer serious mental illness or addiction issues.

Or, they’re immigrants brought from one country to another, like the “Natasha’s” who are pretty girls from Russia who think there going to “model” in Greece or Japan and are really just prostituted once they get there. Or like women from Asian or African nations who are brought to another country owing money to the person who helps them “immigrate”. They are then told they have to pay off the debt via sex.

Little babies like Cupcake aren’t really involved in that industry. Maybe children of adult prostitutes could get caught up but they’re born into it. Not stolen off the street in the US. Not at that age.

 

[Simply Southern]

carol robinson (@RobinsonCarol) on Twitter

That's my thinking. Still strange that this many LE would be on scene for an investigation if she's NOT there but with the lack of ambulance/ME and lack of urgency I don't think she is there.

More than likely, EMS is in standby on the outside of the police perimeter.

The scene must be safe before they enter.

We saw this with J. Closs.

Jmho

 

[doyoulovemepfg]

ABC 33/40 livestream is getting rowdy... crowd freaking out that they heard screaming?

Can anyone do a play by play of the livestream? Can’t have it up with sound at work.

 

[girlhasnoname]

I am watching the live stream on CC and it said something about SWAT making a 'dynamic entry' ???

 

[T4Tide]

I'm afraid they've found her and are dotting and their Is and crossing all their Ts for evidence. If she was there alive, they would have produced her by now. If there was no evidence, they would have left by now. There's some evidence of foul play, her presence, or death.

Oh, God... let me be wrong.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Live
Heavy police presence in Birmingham neighborhood possibly connected to Kamille McKinney search

 

[TTF14]

The former FBI agent talking on WVTM seems to think at some point there is going to be a "dynamic entry" made into this building.

 

[peppertheyorkiepoo]

Oh my,

is the person in the bright blue blouse in front of the apartment her grandmother? How heartbreaking. I pray you are found safe, little one.

It is not grandmother. Family including grandmother moved to different location.

 

[oviedo]

The reporter is saying they have been there for 2 hours and they are making sure they conduct a full search after the tip regarding the sighting

 

[FlamingoLady]

dbm

 

[gitana1]

I'm afraid they've found her and are dotting and their Is and crossing all their Ts for evidence. If she was there alive, they would have produced her by now. If there was no evidence, they would have left by now. There's some evidence of foul play, her presence, or death.

Oh, God... let me be wrong.

Is it possible it’s a hostage situation? I can only hope she’s alive.

 

[oviedo]

Active search underway for Kamille “Cupcake” McKinney

 

[gitana1]

The reporter is saying they have been there for 2 hours and they are making sure they conduct a full search after the tip regarding the sighting

So someone thought they saw her but there’s no real evidence she’s even there?

 

[CSIDreamer]

Retired FBI agent, Jack Owens, feeling positive about the amount of time LE has been on scene. (Phone interview on live feed)

#WVTM13 on Twitter

 

[oviedo]

The link I am listening to isn't giving any information - no updates from LE apparently.

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

But let’s put this into perspective. From the article:

“In the U.S., we have found that there is a typical model,” Potter said. “The average age is 12 to 14 in relation to females. It’s usually a young girl who has come from an abusive, dysfunctional family setting, and she’s easily lured into trafficking because of it. Sometimes she’s a runaway or a girl on the street. She is vulnerable. The trafficker will pose as someone who will care for her. … And he will take care of her: he will buy her stuff and make her believe that he will never hurt her.”

Usually, after he has emotionally bound the girl to him, the trafficker, or “pimp,” makes her sell herself.

Drugs are often a factor with victims, Potter said. Many of the women rescued by The WellHouse have been victims of child or sexual abuse or some type of domestic violence. Many are homeless, struggling with substance abuse, or dealing with mental-health concerns.

“There is still a mindset to view these girls as prostitutes, but these are people who are actually struggling,” Potter said.

Actually snatching small, wanted children off the street and selling them in sex rings? That’s really mythical. As much as people like to describe these powerful conglomerates the reality of trafficking is really much more gritty and low rent.

Btw? I am skeptical of the narrative of the woman in the story. They’re forcing her to prostitute still at 55? Flying her around the world? It would be more expensive to house her and pay for her travel than a middle aged prostitute is likely to get. She also looks super fresh for someone who has been dragged around the world, repeatedly drugged and raped for decades.

It’s a fanciful narrative. And a lot of trouble to go through with a woman from an educated, successful family who could case them a lot of trouble.

Traffickers tend to do “business” using easier prey - like the article says.

Human trafficking victims involved in selling sex are predominately minorities, and/or LGBTQ persons (in the US) who are typically at least teenaged and come from extreme family dysfunction and/or suffer serious mental illness or addiction issues.

Or, they’re immigrants brought from one country to another, like the “Natasha’s” who are pretty girls from Russia who think there going to “model” in Greece or Japan and are really just prostituted once they get there. Or like women from Asian or African nations who are brought to another country owing money to the person who helps them “immigrate”. They are then told they have to pay off the debt via sex.

Little babies like Cupcake aren’t really involved in that industry. Maybe children of adult prostitutes could get caught up but they’re born into it. Not stolen off the street in the US. Not at that age.

Beautifully stated, gitana. I couldn't agree more.

 

[doyoulovemepfg]

The former FBI agent talking on WVTM seems to think at some point there is going to be a "dynamic entry" made into this building.

Putting this in a little bit of context here. My mom’s best friend’s husband is an FBI agent who’s done these “dynamic entries” before on multiple occasions - and has been injured while doing so. Oftentimes they pose significant risk to the health and safety of LE. It wouldn’t be happening or even proposed unless there was a dead serious tip that Cupcake or something related was in that building.