Found Deceased AL - Kamille "Cupcake" McKinney, 3, kidnapped from birthday party, Birmingham, 12 Oct 2019 #4

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Yea, IMO, In the video I see white rectangular objects that they are picking up. At first I thought it was paper but it looks pretty thick. I don’t think it would really show up on camera if it was flat paper. No idea what it is but maybe something like those bean bag things that you toss?
 
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As I understand it, there are three POI's and one suspect.

POI #1 - PS, bonded out of jail
POI #2 - DB, still in jail
POI #3 - First man in the video
Suspect - Second man in the video

I don't think it's clear which POI the search is related to. MOO
Correct and could be non of the above
 
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thank you for posting that! I agree and was headed to quote video to say that same thing!



honestly, I don’t get kids even wanting to pick up paper. Acorns, yes, mine did it all the time. I can’t actually reference sm but i think that is where the idea of it being paper or flyers came from. I will say this. If you look at the car when it was picked up and shown, there is something on the dash, papers maybe? I say all that to say, I just can’t fathom kids picking up paper, nor do I think it looks like paper.

Here is a link to thread with vehicle pic. AL - Kamille "Cupcake" McKinney,3, Media, Maps, timeline -No Discussion

Here’s a tweet with vehicle.




CBS 42 on Twitter

What’s interesting is that this appears to be a daylight picture. Do you guys agree? That would mean they captured it on video with identifiable tag and and then captured this image during daylight too? What do you think?
Agree. Definitely appears to be daylight. MOO
 
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Sorry, we’ve never found a msm link for that. The bounce house.

chief says “there were other events going on nearby”
diggn, the bouncy house has been confirmed by people at the party, as well as the host. Is that not as good as MSM? I'm asking, not arguing. I don't understand/know all the rules. TIA!
 
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So...is PS the one police have identified in the video?
PS was not identified in video. No one was named. Man #1 is POI and wanted for questioning. Man #2 is in named suspect.
 
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thank you for posting that! I agree and was headed to quote video to say that same thing!



honestly, I don’t get kids even wanting to pick up paper. Acorns, yes, mine did it all the time. I can’t actually reference sm but i think that is where the idea of it being paper or flyers came from. I will say this. If you look at the car when it was picked up and shown, there is something on the dash, papers maybe? I say all that to say, I just can’t fathom kids picking up paper, nor do I think it looks like paper.

Here is a link to thread with vehicle pic. AL - Kamille "Cupcake" McKinney,3, Media, Maps, timeline -No Discussion

Here’s a tweet with vehicle.




CBS 42 on Twitter

What’s interesting is that this appears to be a daylight picture. Do you guys agree? That would mean they captured it on video with identifiable tag and and then captured this image during daylight too? What do you think?

I think the camera is in night vision which might make it appear light out? Because I thought there was a light post shining in the right corner of the video that the first guy walks past. JMO

ETA- oops, I thought we were still talking about the video of the kids and the two guys. The car picture def looks like a daylight picture though.
 
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Sorry for asking questions that have already been discussed. I missed a ton and simply don't have time with a sick little one to catch up on it all.
 
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How do they know where the POI likes to frequent if it is man #1?? (Who they urge to come forward?) So now I’m thinking the reference to POI and this area relates to PS IMO - else who?
I think you are assuming there r only 3 POI’s and 1 suspect. That’s all we know about. I think there is a very good probability there are more POI’s (hint: Chief said everybody is one) that we don’t know about. Moo
 
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Sorry, we’ve never found a msm link for that. The bounce house.

chief says “there were other events going on nearby”

My apologies. (I thought I had read this in the first thread- it may have been removed if not from approved MSM)? I have edited my post to reflect the proper information. Thank you for bringing it to my attention! :p:D
 
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So most here think that the children are picking up paper, correct? Could it just be the type of wrapper candy comes in that makes it appear to be paper? IE Salt Water Taffy is wrapped in (wax) paper. (Trying to focus on something else so it’s just a thought.) MOO
 
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I know kM was at a birthday party, does anyone know if it was a childrens party or adult? An adult party may have a number of drugs floating around. I see three options: 1) she was kidnapped 2) she wondered off 3) she got a hold of drugs. My hunch is 3. I don't know why, just a feeling. I hope I am wrong.
 
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This is starting to remind me of an old Laurel and Hardy sketch, who is the named man?
 
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Ya'll, something keeps nagging me. This generation of parents are constantly posting pictures; selfies, their kids, what they just ate, etc. I have yet to see one single picture posted of CC, anyone or anything from that b'day party. That seems so suspicious to me.
 
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So most here think that the children are picking up paper, correct? Could it just be the type of wrapper candy comes in that makes it appear to be paper? IE Salt Water Taffy is wrapped in (wax) paper. (Trying to focus on something else so it’s just a thought.) MOO
I was able to slow down and get pretty good resolution. It’s square or rectangular pieces scattered around the yard. My nephew who is 3, LOVES to pick up wrapping paper at birthdays. Maybe they were coloring and wind blew? Maybe one of the POI’s in vid promised money for picking it up to distract them? Also do any of you see the (white or light) colored car flash by? Is it a reflection or on street in back?
 
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Unfortunately I don’t think so. I know we try to keep things factual and only quite approved social media and MSN links.

You could make hypothetical statements though!

sorry, I’ve read it to. I stated it to, here, early on as I was quoting another poster. Unfortunately that post has been removed.
diggn, the bouncy house has been confirmed by people at the party, as well as the host. Is that not as good as MSM? I'm asking, not arguing. I don't understand/know all the rules. TIA!
I’ll link the rules here in just a second.
Rules - Social Media - Facebook, Twitter, etc.

Not Allowed

Social media pages that fall in the following categories are OFF LIMITS.

Family members of either a victim or a suspect
Friends of either a victim or a suspect
Most any other individual

Don't link to these pages, nor make reference to information you find on them.

Any exception must first be approved by an administrator. You can contact an administrator via private message, or send an email to [email protected]

EXAMPLE: If a suspect has been arrested for a crime relevant to the discussion topic, and you want to post a Facebook screencap from his/her personal page, you must first obtain approval from administration.
 
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Ya'll, something keeps nagging me. This generation of parents are constantly posting pictures; selfies, their kids, what they just ate, etc. I have yet to see one single picture posted of CC, anyone or anything from that b'day party. That seems so suspicious to me.
Maybe the police have asked them to hold off?
 
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The press conference showing the video played it a few times making it seem longer. The time stamp at beginning was 07:24:00 PM and the end was 07:25:22 PM So all of that happened in 1 minute, 22 seconds. The 2 individuals must have seen each other? If you add 37 minutes to time stamp, it began at 8:01:00 PM, if you subtract it is 6:47:00 PM. I cannot tell if it is night vision or still light. I can tell where the light source was because of the shadows on the ground and their direction. I am wondering about the vehicle that flashes by...
 
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Jeff Eliasoph on Twitter
#AmberAlert now in its second week for Kamille McKinney abducted 8 nights ago from Tom Brown Housing Community in Birmingham #bringcupcakehome@WVTM13
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2:46 PM - 20 Oct 2019
 
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No worries at all. I learned myself after I did the sane thing! Lol
My apologies. (I thought I had read this in the first thread- it may have been removed if not from approved MSM)? I have edited my post to reflect the proper information. Thank you for bringing it to my attention! :p:D
 
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