Found Deceased AL- Kamille "Cupcake" McKinney, 3, kidnapped from birthday party, Birmingham, 12 Oct 2019

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Oh man.....more people!!!!! Sounds like maybe she was handed off????
Well, IF police got the right person in custody, and she is not with that person, then either she is no longer alive or she was handed off to someone else.
 
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Oh man.....more people!!!!! Sounds like maybe she was handed off????

So incredibly worried about this precious child.

Please find Cupcake now!
 
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It says that children said black male got out of an SUV and put her in the vehicle, right there in the part you quoted, not that children put her in the vehicle.
"children" put her in the vehicle is meant to say "children" (plural) not just one child stated that she was put into the vehicle. I didn't mean the children physically put her in the car. Sorry for the confusion.
 
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Welcome to the last 18 hours. We are starting to wonder if these are the correct POI's....
I’m not. Law enforcement appears convinced that these two are responsible, and there has to be a reason for that.

The fact that they continue to be held is quite telling.
 
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World News Tonight with David Muir/ABC stating FBI now involved and Kamille is in "extreme danger." Not sure if this has been stated already since I haven't read every post here.
 
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I’m not. Law enforcement appears convinced that these two are responsible, and there has to be a reason for that.

The fact that they continue to be held is quite telling.
I agree. They would have been released by now and something prelim. may have shown up in the vehicle.
 
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I hope so but I’ve only seen the 11 year old mentioned. If it was a group of kids I’d feel better about the abduction story.... instead of worrying it was made up by a scared individual child.

LE certainly seems to be treating this like an abduction. He's the only one mentioned who gave a description, right? Maybe he's the only one old enough and observant enough tobhave given a detailed description.

So far I see nothing fishy here. I doubt a whole group of people would lie about seeing Cupcake at the party and then kids run in and say she's gone. They probably searched quite a bit before they called. This is not a community that has a lot of trust when it comes to the police.
 
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I’m not. Law enforcement appears convinced that these two are responsible, and there has to be a reason for that.

The fact that they continue to be held is quite telling.

Involved? Yes, absolutely. Solely responsible? I'm not so sure...
 
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Welcome to the last 18 hours. We are starting to wonder if these are the correct POI's....

The cops seem to think so. They haven't cleared them and believe others are also involved.
 
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Involved? Yes, absolutely. Solely responsible? I'm not so sure...

Well, no. Since they said others may be involved and have expanded the search out of state. Right?
 
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Involved? Yes, absolutely. Solely responsible? I'm not so sure...
Law enforcement isn’t sure about that either.

My fear is that “other people being involved,” came from one of the two people in custody, as a way to shift blame.

Hopefully that’s not the case.
 
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The cops seem to think so. They haven't cleared them and believe others are also involved.
And AMBER alert spread to other states...would lead IMO to FBI involvement, though I know they are often called in regardless.
 
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Involved? Yes, absolutely. Solely responsible? I'm not so sure...
Right, but if she was taken away in his vehicle and he put her in the car, then he is majorly involved and responsible for the initial kidnapping portion of the crime.
 
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Law enforcement isn’t sure about that either.

My fear is that “other people being involved,” came from one of the two people in custody, as a way to shift blame.

Hopefully that’s not the case.

I hadn't thought about it that way. That's a good point. Beyond that, other people being involved, the POI not being named as suspects, no arrests, not knowing where she is, and parking out in the open like nothing happened make me think they are just middlemen if they aren't just outright lying.
 
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