Found Deceased AL - Kamille "Cupcake" McKinney, 3, kidnapped from party, Birmingham, 12 Oct 2019 *Arrests* #7

[PrivateEye006]

It appears he comes from a decent family. I feel like their statement was genuine. His bond was posted by some of his family members and others. Appears now that they no longer want to back his bail.
Who KNOWS what story he used to back up child charges. Prob said it was a 17 year old who lied and told him she was an adult...not the real story.

Kamille 'Cupcake’ McKinney: 2 charged with capital murder of child

 

[CSIDreamer]

I'm sorry if I missed it but do we know if the shell store footage was before or after the kidnapping? I'm assuming before as I'm sure I recall someone wondering if lots of candy was bought then MOO

I found a timestamp of 12:04 pm.

 

[MummyRatcliffe]

I kn

Yes, and no. I lost a child, and didn't have the "luxury" of not having to go to work. While I was probably not the world's greatest teacher at that time, it meant that life kept going. And was probably better for me, rather than staying home in "Zombie" mode.

You get three days of leave. As if that is even enough time.

No, don't keep replying "sorry". It was over 30 years ago. I am okay.

I know you asked for nobody to reply sorry, but I hope you still managed to find the time to grieve, huge losses like this take their toll, and even if not right away, I hope you mourned your loss and got those many emotions out.

 

[MummyRatcliffe]

I found a timestamp of 12:04 pm.

Thanks so much, so a good 8 hours earlier then...

 

[peppertheyorkiepoo]

I found a timestamp of 12:04 pm.

So before KM went missing. Wish we knew what he bought. I have a pretty good idea.Candy and gas.

 

[PrivateEye006]

I found a timestamp of 12:04 pm.

Where did we get this idea about the candy? I keep seeing it - but havent seen it in MSM?

 

[margarita25]

Now that his DNA will be in the system, I wonder if it will produce a hit on other unsolved crimes.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Where did we get this idea about the candy? I keep seeing it - but havent seen it in MSM?

Patrick Stallworth & Derick Irisha Brown: 5 Fast Facts | Heavy.com Patrick Stallworth & Derick Irisha Brown: 5 Fast Facts | Heavy.com

It's in here

 

[MirandaPriestly]

I keep thinking it’s going to come out that she was the motivator

 

[afitzy]

Court records reveal criminal past and childhood of Derick Brown

Information about DB arrest history and longstanding mental health issues/troubled childhood.

 

[Simply Southern]

Even if they condemn his actions they may still pay for an attorney to get him away from the death penalty. He may be a child killer but he is still someone else's child. Even mothers love their pedophile children.

So true.

 

[SeattleStew]

Kamille 'Cupcake' McKinney was suffocated | Daily Mail Online

Suffocated.

 

[Simply Southern]

It appears he comes from a decent family. I feel like their statement was genuine. His bond was posted by some of his family members and others. Appears now that they no longer want to back his bail.
Who KNOWS what story he used to back up child charges. Prob said it was a 17 year old who lied and told him she was an adult...not the real story.

Kamille 'Cupcake’ McKinney: 2 charged with capital murder of child

I thought the judge said no bail for either. JMO...

 

[oceanblueeyes]

So true! She probably only fought for her kids to be returned as they surely brought in more money and gave her a reason to not have to work MOO

Hi MR! NTSY!

It's painfully obvious it wasn't for the right reasons moms have which is to always respect, honor, cherish, nurture, protect, and unconditionally love them at all times.

All parents are the first line of defense to make sure their children are all taken care of, and protected.

Most likely her own children needed protection from their own mom.

Imo, they are victims too of this horrid creature. Now they will become known as the children of a kidnapper, and murderer of wee innocent Cupcake.

She doesn't deserve the title of even being called a mom. She is like so many like her, who are the worst enemies countless children will ever face.

Ita! She used her children as mere pawns for her own advantage. A typical user, and abuser.

Jmho tho

 

[CSIDreamer]

I thought the judge said no bail for either. JMO...

His first 7 charges. The people that put up the original bail are no longer willing to back him. This was before bail was denied on capital murder I believe.

 

[margarita25]

I keep thinking it’s going to come out that she was the motivator

This is not the first time this has been mentioned.

Imo, this is a 39 year old man here, CP charges on his phone...one can’t lead or guide someone to do this who is not already seasoned for this sort of thing, jmo. One doesn’t wake up one day and decide to abduct and kill a small child...my guess is that he’s been involved in this sort of thing for a long time, child , violence, etc., even before he met DBQJ, that the murder could have been an escalatory crime, if he hasn’t already killed someone in the past.

As for this woman, I don’t know what to say about her except she’s a monster. I don’t have enough experience with female criminals like this...maybe the same principles apply to women as they do to men, that they don’t just “wake up one day and kill a child”. We know she has a record of DV, kidnapping and abusing her kids, though we don’t know the specific type of abuse she has inflicted. Moo. I have also mentioned previously that I suspect she has been a victim of sexual abuse herself as a child.

 

[margarita25]

Court records reveal criminal past and childhood of Derick Brown

Information about DB arrest history and longstanding mental health issues/troubled childhood.

“Jackson goes on to detail her childhood which she said included sexual abuse, treatment in mental-health facilities and years spent in foster care.”

Well whaddya know. This was my first inclination as soon as I heard there was a woman involved. Not giving her a free pass BY ANY MEANS, but it seemed logical to conclude imo that something like that may have happened to her.

Do all women who are victims of abuse as a child turn out like this? Of course not. But we do know the cycle of abuse, that often the abused become the abusers.

ETA: This is assuming her assertions of abuse are in fact true, which they very well could be, moo. It would fit a pattern of her possibly collaborating with someone like this, imo.

 

[SpoiledRoyal]

So true! She probably only fought for her kids to be returned as they surely brought in more money and gave her a reason to not have to work MOO

When I was looking through DB's instagram, I got the feeling that viewed her children as objects quite a bit. So many posts about how she did so much for them. She said stuff about how their "hair is always layed" (i assume that means done nicely), how much she spent on them, pictures of all the stuff she bought them. Even the pics where they were sleeping, it was like she had a nice car that she kept detailed, modded and was proud of. Not the same way you see a lot of moms brag about their kids (personality quirks, sweet acts they did, things they learned). This is all MOO of course, it was just the vibe I got from her page.

 

[SpoiledRoyal]

“Jackson goes on to detail her childhood which she said included sexual abuse, treatment in mental-health facilities and years spent in foster care.”

Well whaddya know. This was my first inclination as soon as I heard there was a woman involved. Not giving her a free pass BY ANY MEANS, but it seemed logical to conclude imo that something like that may have happened to her.

Do all women who are victims of abuse as a child turn out like this? Of course not. But we do know the cycle of abuse, that often the abused become the abusers.

You know those questions were people ask something like, if you die what statistics do you want to know? Some answers are always, how many times someone was in love with me or if I ever did anything that changed someone's life. I also want to know stuff like, how many of the abused really become abusers. I'm not disputing that it def happens, of course. I just know there is so much abuse that is not reported. If we truly knew how many were abused, I wonder what percentage would become the abuser.

A lot of people just carry on, as others have said, and use it as motivation to make their life better. I just realized this is probably OT and i'm sorry. I have just wondered about it so much since I became active on WS and i was thinking about it a lot today since DB's letter used that excuse. MOO

 

[margarita25]

Dated over one year ago:

Good find. Those poor kids of hers. Who knows what kind of abuse they have suffered at her hands.