Alcala photos discussion thread - latest updates, news, questions

[Billylee]

I follow the link that says all 2000 pics but it only takes me to the standered oc register ones.... what am i doing wrong?

That's weird, far as I know, they haven't and wouldn't (because of the sexual content) release all 2000 photos, wonder why that says that?

 

[Bargle]

I know nothing about photography and have a question I hope a camera person can answer. Can you tell if pictures were taken from different cameras and different quality cameras? There are pictures that look very polished and profession, portraits, and then there are poor quality photos, blurry, etc that look like they would only be interesting to Alcala (as a memento?) such as the girl walking around with ashtray, the girl in yellow bikini dancing, and the girls with headphones listening to music. I'm trying to narrow down for myself the ones that are more likely to be victims than others before spending a lot of time on them.

Only somewhat. Bad focus or a too slow shutter speed can make a picture from even a fine quality camera, blur. The pro looking ones were likely done with a 35mm or medium format camera. Lighting, exposure and printing can affect the final product as well.

 

[Billylee]

That's what I am trying to say. The "candid" shots are the most disturbing. Some seem voyeuristic and I think those are the people to worry about. But it has also occurred to me that since they don't seem to have identified any missing people or unsolved murders with these pictures by now, it could be that if there were more victims he may have destroyed their pictures or stashed them someplace else and this is all a waste of time.

Yep, it sure could be! That's why I wish they'd release photos of the jewelry! Those were his trophies! He was no idiot, he knew pictures of victims would implicate him. Does anyone know if the PD's ever found any pictures/or negatives of his KNOWN victims? I don't think so....but they found some of the jewelry.....there was no DNA evidence back then, so he didn't realize he could be connected by that. I also wonder if he kept anything else, like scarves or belts or even clothing. Wasn't there a bicycle there too? There was a reason he didn't want LE to go that storage locker and I don't think it was the photos. I really think it would have been a major screw up on his part to keep a picture of a victim, but then, just in case he did screw up, I'll keep looking for the potential victim's sake.

 

[Imbackon]

Weird weird weird.
Never saw Ms C's photo @169 on any site.
Could this be bad reporting? The more I read the more I realize just how poor much of our newspaper reporting is bad.

 

[DeepThinker]

I am new to this thread, so please bear with me if this has been said before, but the "look" in the model's eyes in some of the candid shots appears to be that moment of realization right before fear/terror sets in. As if he took their picture as he told them possibly what was in store for them. The raw emotion shown in those photos makes my skin crawl. JMO

 

[Bargle]

Weird weird weird.
Never saw Ms C's photo @169 on any site.
Could this be bad reporting? The more I read the more I realize just how poor much of our newspaper reporting is bad.

Bad reporting? I think so. Also, LE should have assigned and placed numbers on the photos so everyone could be certain of which photo is being discusssed, tipped about, etc.
I'm sure LE has gotten some tips with a message like "Um, I think I know the girl with the shorts." without it giving enough info to know which photo the tip was about. This whole thing has not been handled well by LE.

 

[DeepThinker]

Bad reporting? I think so. Also, LE should have assigned and placed numbers on the photos so everyone could be certain of which photo is being discusssed, tipped about, etc.
I'm sure LE has gotten some tips with a message like "Um, I think I know the girl with the shorts." without it giving enough info to know which photo the tip was about. This whole thing has not been handled well by LE.

So, there's no date sequence to the photos?

 

[Cupcakeslayer]

So, there's no date sequence to the photos?

i was hoping they could at least give us some info. i know its harder to do in the pre-computer era - but they could at least say "this was taken on film not available till 1976" to establish a minimal timeline.

So does anyone know what happened to 'sheryl bradshaw' (the girl on the dating game)? I have a pic I ripped from a you tube video - I'm not quite sure but i dont think shes in any of the photos.

 

[Pink Panther]

Bad reporting? I think so. Also, LE should have assigned and placed numbers on the photos so everyone could be certain of which photo is being discusssed, tipped about, etc.
I'm sure LE has gotten some tips with a message like "Um, I think I know the girl with the shorts." without it giving enough info to know which photo the tip was about. This whole thing has not been handled well by LE.

Very strange. The only thing I can think of is that she's recognized herself but doesn't want the public to know which one she is. That or, there is some kind of mix up. The only two possibilities/remote resemblances that I can see are the blond girl with the black string around her neck in the Five Spot club shots or the other blond girl by the window (the one who is also posing at a school desk/kitchen with brown slacks).

I'm sure that the picture shown in the article did NOT appear on any of the three main sites showing all of these pics!

:waitasec:

 

[Imbackon]

Very strange. The only thing I can think of is that she's recognized herself but doesn't want the public to know which one she is. That or, there is some kind of mix up. The only two possibilities/remote resemblances that I can see are the blond girl with the black string around her neck in the Five Spot club shots or the other blond girl by the window (the one who is also posing at a school desk/kitchen with brown slacks).

I'm sure that the picture shown in the article did NOT appear on any of the three main sites showing all of these pics!

:waitasec:

But why show a more professional photo taken some years ago instead? Doesn't make sense. She states "one photo", so it is not the girl in the window as she is in many photos.
How would the person who wrote this article originally know whether this is for real or a fraud story without comparing to an actual photo from Alcala's storage that have been published. Heck maybe I should send in a some photo taken of me in the 70's and claim, Hey yeah, I think I'm photo number 214! I think this may be a fraud story. Sorry I am jaded lately.

 

[Bargle]

I think she might be the girl laying down with her brown hair fanned out, but I'm by no means sure.

 

[Cupcakeslayer]

But why show a more professional photo taken some years ago instead? Doesn't make sense. She states "one photo", so it is not the girl in the window as she is in many photos.
How would the person who wrote this artical originally know whether this is for real or a fraud story without comparing to an actual photo from Alcala's storage that have been published. Heck maybe I should send in a some photo taken of me in the 70's and claim, Hey yeah, I think I'm photo number 214! I think this may be a fraud story. Sorry I am jaded lately.

i sorta agree. unless its a pic where she didn't know it was being taken ( like the one where people are line dancing...should pull that up) how can you not be sure its you? not rember it? not rember anything?

and theres one red-tone photo set taken by alcala... did he also randomly do one in b&w? then the rest in color?


http://www.aolnews.com/crime/article/2-women-confirm-they-are-in-serial-killer-rodney-alcalas-photos/19450712

this implys shes the blond on the maroon rug. unclear pic. but i see bare shoulder. Maybe she layed nude on so many carpets she cant be sure?

also... how many men had long curly hair? seems like that would be rembered

 

[Imbackon]

I think she might be the girl laying down with her brown hair fanned out, but I'm by no means sure.

Please point me to this picture. I would like to look at it. I know there is one laying down that I would refer to her more as a blond, but she looks like she is on carpeting. The other laying down one has been identified already, but the articles about Ms C make it sound like this is newly identified just since the NY photo's came out.

Someone pointed out earlier one of the club girls photos.
I just want to state, she said ONE PHOTO, and she said rooftop. I am trying to find anything that looks remotely like a rooftop, and haven't found one yet.

 

[Pink Panther]

i sorta agree. unless its a pic where she didn't know it was being taken ( like the one where people are line dancing...should pull that up) how can you not be sure its you? not rember it? not rember anything?

and theres one red-tone photo set taken by alcala... did he also randomly do one in b&w? then the rest in color?


http://www.aolnews.com/crime/articl...-serial-killer-rodney-alcalas-photos/19450712

this implys shes the blond on the maroon rug. unclear pic. but i see bare shoulder. Maybe she layed nude on so many carpets she cant be sure?

also... how many men had long curly hair? seems like that would be rembered

Yep. That's one of the two women who I thought she could be! The one shown in the above link.

ETA - There are several pictures of this woman. She has a black string choker necklace on and she appears in many of the pictures taken in the Five Spot pics.

 

[Cupcakeslayer]

http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/01661.jpg

this is a better pic than the article. shes deff topless.

 

[Pink Panther]

http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/01661.jpg

this is a better pic than the article. shes deff topless.

Lots of other pics of this girl here:

The Girls in the Club - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community


Hmmm...I guess we'll have to wait and see on this...

 

[Cupcakeslayer]

then it cant be her... just a few people said it was her and the one article i posted before implied it was.

 

[Pink Panther]

then it cant be her... just a few people said it was her and the one article i posted before implied it was.

Uh. Why do think that it can't be her?

 

[Imbackon]

I don't know where else to put this. I am so frustrated. I know police work hard, I know oftentimes put their own lives on the line, I know detectives can be quite clever, but lordy, what were they thinking when they put these photo's out!
No numbering in order to identify particular pictures and not removing identified people is just plain dumb and bad detective work to me.

 

[Imbackon]

Judy Cole, a North Carolina writer, told the New York Police Department she recognized an image of herself among the photos. She was 19 when she met Alcala on New York's Upper West Side and agreed to pose for him on a rooftop, she said

This implies to me, 1 photo, does it not? An image. Not photos.