All Casey Cell Phone LOGS and PINGS Part#2

[TexasLil]

Sooo...appears LP's suggesting Pings 4=>5 & 6 (6 ironically being Johnson Tow yard) on the 6/27 map that correspond to 11:10AM=>11:26 & 11:28 (16-18mins).

Since Ping 7, just northwest of Anthony house picks up @ 11:31AM, (3 mins after Ping 6) instead of the Glenn Carter Condo tower (Ping 5) that suggests to me she drove south on Goldenrod, then, east on Lee Vista, then, went north again on 417 such that the Glenn Carter Condo tower didn't pick her up again before Ping 7.

From Ping 5 to Ping 7 encompasses only 5 minutes.
From Ping 4 to Ping 5 encompasses 16 minutes for a much shorter distance - perhaps heavier traffic.

This doesn't seem like enough time to do more than travel the route.

What time did she call JCP?

She called JCP at 11:09 that morning and again at 2:11 that afternoon. At 2:11 it appears she's back at AL's.

 

[Celt1997]

She called JCP at 11:09 that morning and again at 2:11 that afternoon. At 2:11 it appears she's back at AL's.

I definitely think they are talking about the 11:09 to 11:28 time period. On another thread someone said that LP (and Maybe TES) have been privy to the cellphone pings. I'm certain they have seen the pings that the phone sent out while she was not calling or texting. These "location" only pings in this time period obviously told them something.

 

[Pink Panther]

Sooo...appears LP's suggesting Pings 4=>5 & 6 (6 ironically being Johnson Tow yard) on the 6/27 map that correspond to 11:10AM=>11:26 & 11:28 (16-18mins).

Since Ping 7, just northwest of Anthony house picks up @ 11:31AM, (3 mins after Ping 6) instead of the Glenn Carter Condo tower (Ping 5) that suggests to me she drove south on Goldenrod, then, east on Lee Vista, then, went north again on 417 such that the Glenn Carter Condo tower didn't pick her up again before Ping 7.

From Ping 5 to Ping 7 encompasses only 5 minutes.
From Ping 4 to Ping 5 encompasses 16 minutes for a much shorter distance - perhaps heavier traffic.

This doesn't seem like enough time to do more than travel the route. I do see why it looks suspicious to drive further south than necessary. To go up 417 and be picked up @ 11:31AM by Ping 7, she musta been movin' at quite a clip. Understandable if she'd just dumped a body, in, say, Vista Park pond. There appear to be a couple of piers there. Dunno how developed it is today vs. Google sat view image as being under construction.

What time did she call JCP?

BondJamesBond - I do not believe that she disposed of the body on the 27th. I think she did this on the 26th. I believe that she went back to CHECK the location, to look again, on the 27th and it's around the time that she has already left the Anthony's (with the stolen card) and that she calls JCPenny that she is AT the location where she dumped the body. (I've described this probably a bit better a page or so back on this same thread.)

Possible?

 

[Brini]

I totally agree with you - when they were showing people going thru dense areas - Also did I hear somewhere that CA said that they had checked the tools and none were missing from shed - - was it the Greta interview in back yard - maybe shovel missing in truth? shallow grave just into treed area?

I read that women tend to dispose of bodies in water.

Sub-tropical FL! Dense folliage and waterways everywhere you look!

 

[AmyinTheHam]

Thank you for clearing the date up. And thank you to everyone that has worked so hard on this thread.

 

[TexasLil]

LP on NG transcript says:

"The night of the 26th, she parked the car there, at Amscot. The morning of the 27th, she went and picked the car back up, went to her mom, she called JCPenny`s and there`s a couple of signals down there in that area where she spent about 15 minutes.

That`s where the body is going to be found, and I`m telling you, Tim Miller is going to get it done."

So it sounds like he's suggesting:

She picked the car up - Between Ping 2 (10:22 am) and Ping 3 (10:35 am)

Went to her mom - Between Ping 3 (10:35 am) and Ping 4 (11:09 am) - 34 min gap but could have been at mom's a bit before calling JCPenney.

Called JCPenney's - Ping 4 (11:09 am)

And there's a couple of signals down in that area where she spent about 15 minutes - Ping 4 (11:09 am) to Ping 5 (11:26 am) to Ping 6 (11:28 am)

So... between Ping 4 and Ping 5 is 17 minutes. It appears by Ping 6 (11:28 am) she was arleady on her way out of that area and on to Ping 7 (11:31 am) then Ping 8 (11:34 am) and Ping 9 (11:37 am)

IMO the real gap and search area should be between ping 3 and 5 as we can't say the exact time she arrived at or left mom's house. That time span is 51 minutes total. Perhaps she dumped the body before going to mom's house or after.

To follow these pings here is the map link again.


http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=e...8659,-81.21068&spn=0.008802,0.013475&t=h&z=16

 

[PaperDoll]

Would someone please refresh me on something.. please, please please When did George say he followed Casey? what date was that again?

 

[Pink Panther]

LP on NG transcript says:

"The night of the 26th, she parked the car there, at Amscot. The morning of the 27th, she went and picked the car back up, went to her mom, she called JCPenny`s and there`s a couple of signals down there in that area where she spent about 15 minutes.

That`s where the body is going to be found, and I`m telling you, Tim Miller is going to get it done."

So it sounds like he's suggesting:

She picked the car up - Between Ping 2 (10:22 am) and Ping 3 (10:35 am)

Went to her mom - Between Ping 3 (10:35 am) and Ping 4 (11:09 am) - 34 min gap but could have been at mom's a bit before calling JCPenney.

Called JCPenney's - Ping 4 (11:09 am)

And there's a couple of signals down in that area where she spent about 15 minutes - Ping 4 (11:09 am) to Ping 5 (11:26 am) to Ping 6 (11:28 am)

So... between Ping 4 and Ping 5 is 17 minutes. It appears by Ping 6 (11:28 am) she was arleady on her way out of that area and on to Ping 7 (11:31 am) then Ping 8 (11:34 am) and Ping 9 (11:37 am)

IMO the real gap and search area should be between ping 3 and 5 as we can't say the exact time she arrived at or left mom's house. That time span is 51 minutes total. Perhaps she dumped the body before going to mom's house or after.

To follow these pings here is the map link again.


http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=e...8659,-81.21068&spn=0.008802,0.013475&t=h&z=16

Exactly. Except - I believe that she was double-checking on what she had done the day before. Just looking, so to speak.

ETA - I was particularly taken by pings 9, 10 and 11. I don't know why but I'm not sure that LP should be taken literally - to the minute.

Regardless, this is why I think that she went back to get the (very stinky) car on the 27th...To go back and look.

 

[TakeNote]

Would someone please refresh me on something.. please, please please When did George say he followed Casey? what date was that again?

june 24th

 

[PaperDoll]

june 24th

Why thank you, TakeNote :blowkiss:

 

[shadow of my mind]

LP on NG transcript says:

"The night of the 26th, she parked the car there, at Amscot. The morning of the 27th, she went and picked the car back up, went to her mom, she called JCPenny`s and there`s a couple of signals down there in that area where she spent about 15 minutes.

That`s where the body is going to be found, and I`m telling you, Tim Miller is going to get it done."

So it sounds like he's suggesting:

She picked the car up - Between Ping 2 (10:22 am) and Ping 3 (10:35 am)

Went to her mom - Between Ping 3 (10:35 am) and Ping 4 (11:09 am) - 34 min gap but could have been at mom's a bit before calling JCPenney.

Called JCPenney's - Ping 4 (11:09 am)

And there's a couple of signals down in that area where she spent about 15 minutes - Ping 4 (11:09 am) to Ping 5 (11:26 am) to Ping 6 (11:28 am)

So... between Ping 4 and Ping 5 is 17 minutes. It appears by Ping 6 (11:28 am) she was arleady on her way out of that area and on to Ping 7 (11:31 am) then Ping 8 (11:34 am) and Ping 9 (11:37 am)

IMO the real gap and search area should be between ping 3 and 5 as we can't say the exact time she arrived at or left mom's house. That time span is 51 minutes total. Perhaps she dumped the body before going to mom's house or after.

To follow these pings here is the map link again.


http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=e...8659,-81.21068&spn=0.008802,0.013475&t=h&z=16

I have no clue how to upload anything so I going to give directions the old fashioned way. If you go to Google maps and enter the A’s address 4937 Hopespring Dr, Orlando, FL 32829 into the map and add destination of 8050 Curry Ford Rd Orlando FL 32829 and then add destination 900 Excalibur Dr, Orlando, Fl 32822, all the way up and turn right onto Gamboge Drive Orlando Fl 32822 there is a Canal back there. It appears that the is not much else around and then coming back out onto Curry Ford Rd hang a left and it is seconds to the RT. 417 entrance.

A portion of something called the Orange County Canal is back there and nothing else.

I am not sure but would this not fit into the ping records for 6/27 or am I not reading something correctly?


This ‘canal’ does not show up on the list of Canals in Florida so I am not sure why not but here is the link for canals anyway two canals in Orange County and some down by Oviedo in Seminole County.
http://florida.hometownlocator.com/features/Cultural.cfm?class=canal&StartRow

 

[Theonly1]

I'd love to start a "This just ain't right--explain this to me" thread. While comparing the pings with the texts with the affidavits, etc., there have been a few moments where I have been totally perplexed. Either some folks are lying or are misremembering. Hopefully tonight I can compile a list of "explain this to me's". Anyone else getting the stinky hinky on anyone as well as Casey?

 

[BondJamesBond]

Why thank you, TakeNote :blowkiss:

PaperDoll...I have a perfectly formed thought in my head - then - I scroll past your siggy and, it's like, "OK, now....WTH was I thinking about?".

 

[shadow of my mind]

I'd love to start a "This just ain't right--explain this to me" thread. While comparing the pings with the texts with the affidavits, etc., there have been a few moments where I have been totally perplexed. Either some folks are lying or are misremembering. Hopefully tonight I can compile a list of "explain this to me's". Anyone else getting the stinky hinky on anyone as well as Casey?

Yep, TL can't tell if he is fibbing or not but anyone who tells time by how many songs played on a CD can't be a good one for knowing when he is where. WW description of his day in paradise on 7/5 with Casey doesn't add up to the pings. I have tons more interview to go through and look for Casey was at clues but these people are so miscanbobulated with there dates and times it take me hours to put into any kind of date order that makes sense.
GRrrrrr.

 

[BondJamesBond]

BondJamesBond - I do not believe that she disposed of the body on the 27th. I think she did this on the 26th. I believe that she went back to CHECK the location, to look again, on the 27th and it's around the time that she has already left the Anthony's (with the stolen card) and that she calls JCPenny that she is AT the location where she dumped the body. (I've described this probably a bit better a page or so back on this same thread.)

Possible?

Yes - understand exactly what you're saying. And, yes, it not only seems possible, but, IMHO probable. In fact, I was planning to post a follow-up to it when I saw the post about LP and drove off into the weeds to look @ the ping map.

I am like a kid in a candy store looking @ that ping map...I'm just in awe @ the work gen'd here :bow: Then, I see Paperdoll's siggy...and my concentrations gone-to-hell-in-a-handbasket. :doh:

Anyhooo...

She def took the long way around to get back to Amscot....and she was flat movin' up 417 too. After she dropped the car back @ Amscot and did the JCP trip she made several back-n-forths betwixt Tony's and Amscot, to try cleaning things up, running the fuel out (maybe left running & locked), or just bein' paranoid. It'll be very interesting to see the JCP purchases that afternoon!

To add insult to injury, can I ask about a link to a ping map on 6/26 to see how it lines up to the area of interest she 'revisits' on 6/27?

 

[TexasLil]

I have no clue how to upload anything so I going to give directions the old fashioned way. If you go to Google maps and enter the A’s address 4937 Hopespring Dr, Orlando, FL 32829 into the map and add destination of 8050 Curry Ford Rd Orlando FL 32829 and then add destination 900 Excalibur Dr, Orlando, Fl 32822, all the way up and turn right onto Gamboge Drive Orlando Fl 32822 there is a Canal back there. It appears that the is not much else around and then coming back out onto Curry Ford Rd hang a left and it is seconds to the RT. 417 entrance.

A portion of something called the Orange County Canal is back there and nothing else.

I am not sure but would this not fit into the ping records for 6/27 or am I not reading something correctly?


This ‘canal’ does not show up on the list of Canals in Florida so I am not sure why not but here is the link for canals anyway two canals in Orange County and some down by Oviedo in Seminole County.
http://florida.hometownlocator.com/features/Cultural.cfm?class=canal&StartRow

Shadow,

I was looking at that exact area earlier so I went back to revisit it to see if there was any easy access. There is a small water way just to the right of your canal that leads all the way to Curry Ford. I was struck very odd when I noticed the cross next to the waterway where there appears to be a church building. Now I don't truly believe KC has an ounce of religion in her body but ... it struck me as a place KC might feel better about placing a body. She definitely could have been in this area between pings 3 and 4 on the 27th.

I have no idea what's with the airplane on the other side of the canal.

 

[BondJamesBond]

Shadow,

I have no idea what's with the airplane on the other side of the canal.

*snipped*

Hey - the airplane's gotta be somewhere too. It just happened to fly through the frame when the sat took this pic.

 

[Themis]

Here are the calls and texts separate by day.

Date Calls Texts
6/15/2008 18 96
6/16/2008 27 43

6/27/2008 37 102

6/30/2008 44 192
7/1/2008 73 196
7/2/2008 65 237
7/3/2008 85 220
7/4/2008 71 161
7/5/2008 23 107

7/15/2008 42 106
7/16/2008 59 182
7/17/2008 29 69

Are these actual phone calls and text messages on a single day or are these units of calls -- like minutes or bytes or something?

 

[TexasLil]

Yes - understand exactly what you're saying. And, yes, it not only seems possible, but, IMHO probable. In fact, I was planning to post a follow-up to it when I saw the post about LP and drove off into the weeds to look @ the ping map.

I am like a kid in a candy store looking @ that ping map...I'm just in awe @ the work gen'd here :bow: Then, I see Paperdoll's siggy...and my concentrations gone-to-hell-in-a-handbasket. :doh:

Anyhooo...

She def took the long way around to get back to Amscot....and she was flat movin' up 417 too. After she dropped the car back @ Amscot and did the JCP trip she made several back-n-forths betwixt Tony's and Amscot, to try cleaning things up, running the fuel out (maybe left running & locked), or just bein' paranoid. It'll be very interesting to see the JCP purchases that afternoon!

To add insult to injury, can I ask about a link to a ping map on 6/26 to see how it lines up to the area of interest she 'revisits' on 6/27?

Here's your June 26th candy store bond. Have fun with all the sugar but it was a pretty boring day. She was back and forth between AL's and the Amscot the whole day.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=e...733,-81.309128&spn=0.139607,0.215607&t=h&z=12

 

[TexasLil]

Are these actual phone calls and text messages on a single day or are these units of calls -- like minutes or bytes or something?

The first number appearing after the date is the number of text messages in and out that day. The second is the calls in and out. The headings didn't line up very well.