All Sauvie Island Searches

[Jo in Calif]

Man, would I love to see some cell phone records. What time all the pings were and where.

 

[Wondergirl]

Thanks for hangin' out at Websleuths, Free, I really appreciate the insight and legwork that you do on Kyron's case.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

That was on Cornelius Pass Rd, I looked over to that area today while I was going over the hill to Sauvie's and saw no obvious search activity at all other than on Sauvie's..

And having the SAR Base at the Sauvie Island School tells me they don't need to worry about radio transmissions getting up over the hill to the location of Skyline School.. if that makes sense..
All just my assumptions..

They should check all the side roads on Cornelius pass road and NW Brooks rd and the area where Kelley saw the white truck.I hope and pray they do more searches everywhere.

 

[Wondergirl]

You were right, Free, they are searching tomorrow too:

UPDATE: Lindstrand said more than 160 search-and-rescue personnel participated in Saturday’s search. The island search will continue through the weekend.

The road from Skyline School to Sauvie Island, Northwest Cornelius Pass Road, also has been the focus of renewed searches in this case.

There has been no sign of Kyron for 17 weeks.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/104213469.html

 

[Jo in Calif]

For a case that some were speculating going cold, things seem to be heating up. I think the task force, as small as it is right now, hasn't stopped working for a minute. Something had to stir this up.

 

[cluciano63]

At least Desiree can go to bed with her hope intact for one more night...

 

[tragco]

Did this quick, again not a whole lot of pics.
We were not allowed near SAR Base, so next to it was best I could get..

please note..there were approx 160 searchers out today, these are ONLY the ones I got pictures of.. we saw many but could not stop nor did I want to impede their search efforts.. again these are NOT focused search areas.. just pictures to give you an idea of what it was like out there.. =)

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t166/ubrmel/10 02 2010 kyron search/

First, thank you so much!

Second, oh my gosh. I knew that the island was isolated and had lots of water but when I saw the map on this thread, and all the isolated places, then your pictures- well it really hit home just how hard it would be to find someone. That picture of the guy up to his waist in high grass near the road, and just thinking of ALL those places like that all over the island... it just changed my perspective.

It would be so hard to find evidence lying right on top of the ground somewhere, much less evidence that was intentionally hidden below ground or in the water. Bless the searchers. They are going out there to find that needle in the haystack.

 

[Chili Fries]

What could the recently developed information be?

Good guestion. As you hit on in your later post it could be related to cell phone records, at least that was my first thought when I learned about the new search. They could have figured out a way to re-analyze the cell data to hone in on an area.

 

[Kat]

Did this quick, again not a whole lot of pics.
We were not allowed near SAR Base, so next to it was best I could get..

please note..there were approx 160 searchers out today, these are ONLY the ones I got pictures of.. we saw many but could not stop nor did I want to impede their search efforts.. again these are NOT focused search areas.. just pictures to give you an idea of what it was like out there.. =)

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t166/ubrmel/10 02 2010 kyron search/

Thank you so much free!

Off Topic but picture 11 of 13 gave me the willies and the goosebumps at the same time. Weird, I have no clue why that picture made me feel spooked.

Anyhow, thanks so much for those pictures. And thank you for your invaluable contributions to WS. JMHO.

 

[tfrohning]

Portland LE was apparently finally invited to join the task force, and the first thing they do is search where her phone was pinging at on June 4.

Not that one of her friends didn't take it there for her though.

But yeah, follow the pings, wherever they go.
Search around the stores where she was that morning.
Follow the clues, man.

If she did it, you gotta prove it.
Don't let that million dollars be wasted.

Thank you to Portland Law Enforcement for new eyes, and minds on this case.
May Kyron be found soon.

I agree follow the cell pings. They got to have something that keep leading back to Sauvie island.

 

[just]

I agree follow the cell pings. They got to have something that keep leading back to Sauvie island.

I can't help thinking with her very short time frame that she didn't go far off any main road. She didn't want to ditch her car (remember it was very muddy) and I feel like she wrapped him in something, taped it and shoved him in a bush near water - like on the edge or actually shoved him in a blackberry bush deep - my gosh those are impossible to search unless you cut them down, which they should do. The more I think about it she could have even lobbed him into the middle of the bush (blackberry bush) - he'd stick in the center and not be seen from the air and impossible to reach on ground. Of course I hope I'm wrong, but I think she found a dark small spot and remember he was tiny, so shoved him in there and ran.

 

[tfrohning]

I can't help thinking with her very short time frame that she didn't go far off any main road. She didn't want to ditch her car (remember it was very muddy) and I feel like she wrapped him in something, taped it and shoved him in a bush near water - like on the edge or actually shoved him in a blackberry bush deep - my gosh those are impossible to search unless you cut them down, which they should do. The more I think about it she could have even lobbed him into the middle of the bush (blackberry bush) - he'd stick in the center and not be seen from the air and impossible to reach on ground. Of course I hope I'm wrong, but I think she found a dark small spot and remember he was tiny, so shoved him in there and ran.

I remember reading about the blackberry bushes that they are very thick.
I agree I don't believe that she went far off a main road.

I sure the local could tell us more about the balckberries... but I found this link that was interesting.

http://www.meetup.com/Portland-Hiking-Group/calendar/8553314/?eventId=8553314&action=detail

 

[scandi]

Looks like it's rifle season...starts today.

http://www.biggamehunt.net/news/oregons-general-hunting-season-opens-oct-2nd

Maybe LE wanted to search some spots on SI before the hunters start tromping around there tomoz. I think there is an approved hunting area on SI. Sorry if you've discussed that as I haven't read the thread yet ;}

 

[tfrohning]

Do we have scanner link to Sauvie Island? We might need it this week with hunting season.

Maybe they found dirt under the Kaine's truck that testing might show it was from Sauvie Island along with a cell ping...Just thinking out loud.

 

[txsvicki]

It's good they're searching again, and I've felt that they should have been all along. Kaine said early on that he didn't want to personally search for fear of getting lost. If a man feels this way, then so would have Terri. She wouldn't have wanted to leave evidence by damaging her body or the pickup, plus she had a toddler along. What worries me is the talk of so many ravines. If a person were going to dispose of a body they could roll one off the side of a ravine. Then there's the time frame. Terri could have driven up to 45 minutes away, but Kyron could even be near the home just like Caylee was.

 

[Jade2010]

Could Terri carry an 8-year-old child? If so, probably not far right?

Also if pings work if you aren't using your cell phone, then they have pings for all locations Terri was at? For instance, for sure at school, and if so, can they get a ping location to the minute? Like confirming Terri left the school area at 8:45 rather than 9:00, etc? And then she pinged somewhere else, and break it down by minutes?

ANDDDDDDDDD you can ping past tense? It doesn't have to be at that moment? Thanks.

 

[pugglesworth]

I'm totally on the fence, but fwiw, I can easily carry my 40 lb child, and sometimes carry the 40 lber and 30 lber at the same time (UGH). And I'm not a bodybuilder or even in especially good shape.

 

[just]

I remember reading about the blackberry bushes that they are very thick.
I agree I don't believe that she went far off a main road.

I sure the local could tell us more about the balckberries... but I found this link that was interesting.

http://www.meetup.com/Portland-Hiking-Group/calendar/8553314/?eventId=8553314&action=detail

I am a local that's why I had that horrible 'ah-ha' moment. They grow to mammoth proportions, thick and thorny and impossible to see through. They grow so fast and are very hard to destroy. Thanks for the link

 

[scandi]

I can't help thinking with her very short time frame that she didn't go far off any main road. She didn't want to ditch her car (remember it was very muddy) and I feel like she wrapped him in something, taped it and shoved him in a bush near water - like on the edge or actually shoved him in a blackberry bush deep - my gosh those are impossible to search unless you cut them down, which they should do. The more I think about it she could have even lobbed him into the middle of the bush (blackberry bush) - he'd stick in the center and not be seen from the air and impossible to reach on ground. Of course I hope I'm wrong, but I think she found a dark small spot and remember he was tiny, so shoved him in there and ran.

I'm taking notes as the 11pm News is about to begin.

I think she had an accomplice, had made a plan with him/her to hid Kyron, and something went bawaccky, he hadn't met her at Freddies and she panicked. If this accomplice was from SI she would have beat it over Skyline Hill to see if she could find his rig to find out what was up. She had lost control of the situation.


One of the reasons SI was on LE's radar the day of June 4th was there was a man who died there that day. He was on one of the houseboats. His friend asked him if he wanted to take a swim and the guy said "I don't know how to swim". The other guy said, 'We'll see about that", and pushed the guy in the water who then did drown. I can find a link to that if anyone wants it. xox



Acc to KOIN, recent developments led to the search today on SI. That is all good, eh?


This article and it's comments are interesting: http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/06/17/sources-search-for-kyron-horman-focuses-on-step-mom-cell-records/

I'll go find the link about the man who was pushed in the water and drowned.

 

[Donjeta]

Thank you so much free!

Off Topic but picture 11 of 13 gave me the willies and the goosebumps at the same time. Weird, I have no clue why that picture made me feel spooked.

Anyhow, thanks so much for those pictures. And thank you for your invaluable contributions to WS. JMHO.

Thank you from me too.

There was a road sign and a powerline pole in that photo that with a bit of dark imagination look a little like broken cross-shaped markings on a grave. For me anyway.