All Things Britney Spears - Part 7

[Jeana (DP)]

Jeana what a outstanding thought you posted. No one has reported on this matter as to why she is allowed to drive when the court has ordered her father and attorney to handle all of her affairs because at this time she is not in the mental state to do so. You post this thursday morning and Show Biz Tonight was just talking about this tonight. I hope her parents were watching the show tonight,so that they will ask their attorney tomorrow morning to ask the judge to rule that the DMV suspend her licenses until she becomes more stable.

Windy, I thin if Show Biz Tonight is copying me, they need to cut me in on the money!!! LOL :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

 

[FlowerChild]

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Sadly it is a vicious cycle when it comes to Bipolar. It is rare to find the right combo of drugs right off the bat and besides that, we often go off our meds because we miss our high's or we think because our symptoms are gone that we are OK and don't need the pills. snip-

Not to mention that even when you DO find a good cocktail there is no guarantee that it will keep working well long-term. Often the body stops responding to certain drugs or begins reacting adversely to a drug that was previously fine.

The 4 people I know VERY WELL who are bi-polar (2 are also Adult ADD) have all been perfect as to taking their meds daily and yet they have had "relapses" of significant bi-polar swings or anxiety because one of the drugs they were taking suddenly ceased to be effective. They have all also had to change meds/dosages due to a sudden appearance of side-effects that happened after years of taking the drug with no problems.

Getting on meds and finding ones that work without debilitating side effects is just the 1st step.
-Then you have to be dedicated to TAKING the drugs daily - sometimes on a fairly rigid schedule and keeping track of you current dosages - some begin on a sliding scale, some make you sick if you miss even one DAY of meds and some have to be withdrawn very slowly if you need to change meds.
-Then you have to accept that the extreme highs are gone - and those highs feel like nothing else - you are invincible and powerful and smart and creative and full of energy.
-Then you have to find a trusted friend or family member who is with you daily to help you monitor your moods and mania...and listen to them.
-Then you have to go - usually MONTHLY to your psychiatrist and spend an hour discussing you feelings and talking about meds - and often resulting in tweaking dosages (keep notes).
And finally you have to accept that you will be on these drugs for life AND that you must deal with the bi-polar daily - including the days when you feel lousy and the days when you feel so good you don't think you "need" the drugs any more. It requires as much dedication as an alcoholic in sobriety and it is also very much "one day at a time" every day. The meds are not a magic pill and there will still be mood swings - even when properly medicated. The idea is to return the person to sanity and control - not put them into the thorazine shuffle.

For someone like Britney, it can be very very difficult to stabilize the mood swings AND find a proper mix of drugs that won't make her gain weight, lose motivation or just be apathetic. It also can be hell trying to KEEP the person stable and taking their meds, especially when they are doing ALL the right things and then the meds stop working - not exactly a great motivation to keep taking meds that you may not even LIKE the way you feel on. "Why Bother, I took the pills, felt like crap sometimes and I still had a breakdown".... comes up a LOT.

It seems simple from the outside, but I can assure you as someone who looks at it all around daily - IT IS FAR FROM SIMPLE and far from a take this pill and you'll feel all better tomorrow "MAGIC" CURE.

My Opinion

 

[Tranaice]

I've wondered if Post Partum depression hasn't brought on a lot of the behavior she's been exhibiting over the past few months and without being treated, it will get worse instead of better. Whatever it is, I pray she gets the help she needs because those little boys need her as much as she needs them. I'm so glad her dad is getting conservatorship to keep others from completely taking advantage of her in this condition. Sounds like she's already had too many taking advantage of her.

 

[deanws]

If Lufti is admitting to giving Britney drugs, why isn't he :behindbar ?
Isn't it illegal to drug people? I guess I am just confused as to why nothing so far is being done about him having given her the drugs in the first place. Was what he had for her a prescription for her? Was it street drugs? Was she taking all this willingly or did she even know about it at first. Obviously she knew about it or suspected it the night her mom and her mom's best friend came over because she wouldn't drink out of her glass but out of her moms. :waitasec: I am just confused on this issue. I think the guy definately needs to be behind bars! :behindbar :furious:

I think he is a sleaze and surely needs to go to jail. If it were an average person, they would already be in jail.

:behindbar

 

[SieSie]

Isn't there some (legal) way that the paps can get in trouble when they swarm her car on the streets? What about endangering the other drivers, or jaywalking or something? They're creating hazardous driving conditions for every other driver out there!! The city should start ticketing the paps. I know they have the "right" to take pictures to make a living, but they should have to stay on sidewalks or something (it's not like they don't have zoom lenses!!). It shouldn't be legal for them to run out into the middle of the road, across lanes of traffic, to take her picture.

Could they be charged with harrassment or something for the way they surround her when she's out of her car, too? Where does her right to have a certain amount of personal "space" come in? Can you imagine having that many people swarmed around you, bumping into you, making you feel like you might trip because you can't see 2 feet in front of you. There's gotta be something that can be done to allow these paps their "rights" but to also ensure that they're not endangering the rest of society?!?!

Maybe it's time there was a new law enacted to protect people from these hardcore paps; it could be named in memory of Princess Di.

 

[OneLostGrl]

How long will the courts keep granting her dad extensions if she doesn't want to get help? What if she never does? Everybody is reporting she is bi-polar but how true is that? I assume she does and will be shocked if she don't but I am just going by her actions and what everyone else is saying.

I know, me too. It's hard to know becase all our info comes from gossip rags.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Isn't there some (legal) way that the paps can get in trouble when they swarm her car on the streets? What about endangering the other drivers, or jaywalking or something? They're creating hazardous driving conditions for every other driver out there!! The city should start ticketing the paps. I know they have the "right" to take pictures to make a living, but they should have to stay on sidewalks or something (it's not like they don't have zoom lenses!!). It shouldn't be legal for them to run out into the middle of the road, across lanes of traffic, to take her picture.

I've heard that Britney ran into First Lady Shriver in the hotel the other day and Maria apparently told her there should be a law. Well, she's the one with the "in" with the Gov. Maybe she'll put a bug into his ear.

 

[JBean]

Isn't there some (legal) way that the paps can get in trouble when they swarm her car on the streets? What about endangering the other drivers, or jaywalking or something? They're creating hazardous driving conditions for every other driver out there!! The city should start ticketing the paps. I know they have the "right" to take pictures to make a living, but they should have to stay on sidewalks or something (it's not like they don't have zoom lenses!!). It shouldn't be legal for them to run out into the middle of the road, across lanes of traffic, to take her picture.

Could they be charged with harrassment or something for the way they surround her when she's out of her car, too? Where does her right to have a certain amount of personal "space" come in? Can you imagine having that many people swarmed around you, bumping into you, making you feel like you might trip because you can't see 2 feet in front of you. There's gotta be something that can be done to allow these paps their "rights" but to also ensure that they're not endangering the rest of society?!?!

Maybe it's time there was a new law enacted to protect people from these hardcore paps; it could be named in memory of Princess Di.

Because of all this , our local legislators are working on a law as we speak to deal with this very issue. Our news reported that the paps are currently not technically breaking an laws, so they are going to change that.

 

[deanws]

K-Fed to put reality show on hold.

http://www.tmz.com/2008/02/08/k-fed-puts-his-reality-on-ice-for-brit/

Kevin Federline, looking to squeeze the last drops of notoriety out of his celebrity rock, had planned to do a reality show on cable.

But with Britney on the Crazytown express, the Federleezy is putting that show on hold temporarily, reports the New York Post. The series was supposed to show the life of "a single, working dad" -- and presumably the adventures of Federline as well. Ba-dump-bump.


Such a shame I was really looking forward to it. :doh:

Wouldn't he actually have to "get a job" to be considered a "working dad"? LMAO at the description of this show.:crazy:

 

[JBean]

LA Society Of Professional Journalists Comments On Paparazzi Proposal

LOS ANGELES -- The Greater Los Angeles Chapter of the Society of Professional Journalists announced its opposition Thursday to a proposed city ordinance targeting paparazzi that aggressively shadow celebrities, saying it could limit reporters' access to newsmakers.

Los Angeles City Councilman Dennis Zine introduced the motion last week calling for proposed restrictions on paparazzi, including a minimum "personal safety zone" between the photographers and their subjects.

The SPJ/LA Board of Directors voted to oppose the motion.

http://www.knbc.com/entertainment/15248557/detail.html

 

[deanws]

Sounds like she's already had too many taking advantage of her.

For most of her whole adult life. Really sad.

 

[OneLostGrl]

Not to mention that even when you DO find a good cocktail there is no guarantee that it will keep working well long-term. Often the body stops responding to certain drugs or begins reacting adversely to a drug that was previously fine.

The 4 people I know VERY WELL who are bi-polar (2 are also Adult ADD) have all been perfect as to taking their meds daily and yet they have had "relapses" of significant bi-polar swings or anxiety because one of the drugs they were taking suddenly ceased to be effective. They have all also had to change meds/dosages due to a sudden appearance of side-effects that happened after years of taking the drug with no problems.

Getting on meds and finding ones that work without debilitating side effects is just the 1st step.
-Then you have to be dedicated to TAKING the drugs daily - sometimes on a fairly rigid schedule and keeping track of you current dosages - some begin on a sliding scale, some make you sick if you miss even one DAY of meds and some have to be withdrawn very slowly if you need to change meds.
-Then you have to accept that the extreme highs are gone - and those highs feel like nothing else - you are invincible and powerful and smart and creative and full of energy.
-Then you have to find a trusted friend or family member who is with you daily to help you monitor your moods and mania...and listen to them.
-Then you have to go - usually MONTHLY to your psychiatrist and spend an hour discussing you feelings and talking about meds - and often resulting in tweaking dosages (keep notes).
And finally you have to accept that you will be on these drugs for life AND that you must deal with the bi-polar daily - including the days when you feel lousy and the days when you feel so good you don't think you "need" the drugs any more. It requires as much dedication as an alcoholic in sobriety and it is also very much "one day at a time" every day. The meds are not a magic pill and there will still be mood swings - even when properly medicated. The idea is to return the person to sanity and control - not put them into the thorazine shuffle.

For someone like Britney, it can be very very difficult to stabilize the mood swings AND find a proper mix of drugs that won't make her gain weight, lose motivation or just be apathetic. It also can be hell trying to KEEP the person stable and taking their meds, especially when they are doing ALL the right things and then the meds stop working - not exactly a great motivation to keep taking meds that you may not even LIKE the way you feel on. "Why Bother, I took the pills, felt like crap sometimes and I still had a breakdown".... comes up a LOT.

It seems simple from the outside, but I can assure you as someone who looks at it all around daily - IT IS FAR FROM SIMPLE and far from a take this pill and you'll feel all better tomorrow "MAGIC" CURE.

My Opinion

I realize all of this, Flowerchild, trust me. I have not once posted or lead these people to believe that treating Bipolar is an easy task. I can't imagine anything I have shared about my struggles with this illness coming across as "simple". Where you get that, I have no clue!

Certainly I have never lead anyone to believe I am cured at all, or that anything about my recovery has been magic! I have been nothing but honest and up front, explaining that it can take years from diagnosis to proper treatment.

Anyway- back to Britney!

 

[OneLostGrl]

Isn't there some (legal) way that the paps can get in trouble when they swarm her car on the streets? What about endangering the other drivers, or jaywalking or something? They're creating hazardous driving conditions for every other driver out there!! The city should start ticketing the paps. I know they have the "right" to take pictures to make a living, but they should have to stay on sidewalks or something (it's not like they don't have zoom lenses!!). It shouldn't be legal for them to run out into the middle of the road, across lanes of traffic, to take her picture.

Could they be charged with harrassment or something for the way they surround her when she's out of her car, too? Where does her right to have a certain amount of personal "space" come in? Can you imagine having that many people swarmed around you, bumping into you, making you feel like you might trip because you can't see 2 feet in front of you. There's gotta be something that can be done to allow these paps their "rights" but to also ensure that they're not endangering the rest of society?!?!

Maybe it's time there was a new law enacted to protect people from these hardcore paps; it could be named in memory of Princess Di.

My Lord, if you or I were driving the way these paps drive, we'd be in jail for reckless driving, ya know?! It's crazy!

 

[Floh]

I realize all of this, Flowerchild, trust me. I have not once posted or lead these people to believe that treating Bipolar is an easy task. I can't imagine anything I have shared about my struggles with this illness coming across as "simple". Where you get that, I have no clue!

Certainly I have never lead anyone to believe I am cured at all, or that anything about my recovery has been magic! I have been nothing but honest and up front, explaining that it can take years from diagnosis to proper treatment.

Anyway- back to Britney!

OneLostGirl, you've been an amazing font of knowledge and i have yet to thank you for your words. at last i'm doing so. thank you! :blowkiss:

 

[JBean]

I realize all of this, Flowerchild, trust me. I have not once posted or lead these people to believe that treating Bipolar is an easy task. I can't imagine anything I have shared about my struggles with this illness coming across as "simple". Where you get that, I have no clue!

Certainly I have never lead anyone to believe I am cured at all, or that anything about my recovery has been magic! I have been nothing but honest and up front, explaining that it can take years from diagnosis to proper treatment.

Anyway- back to Britney!

Hi OLG. I may be wrong and I don't mean to speak for Flowerchild, but I don't think Flowerchild was necessarily disagreeing with anything you said, but rather expanding on your original point. I think the *simple* comment was not directed at you but at others that may not have the full understanding that people like you have. JMHO of course.
As others have said, thank you for your knowledgeable input on these matters. You are a terrific resource.

 

[chiperoni]

It's like the gathering of locusts if you watch the helicopter video. All the traffic is backed up behind her car and you can hear the roaring of the helicopter. The scene is so creepy and surreal. By the way, there is a regulation that a mentally ill person can receive an involuntary outpatient commitment,, which includes strict follow-up mental health treatment with monitoring. I guess Britney did not get that on her release.

http://www.ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/156/12/1968

 

[Mygirlsadie]

I feel like I can't hold back anymore and that everybody is afraid to say what they really feel here and I don't like it.. Just because there MAY be some kind of mental illness brewing inside of Britney does NOT give her the right to act the way she is acting. She is being extremely irresponsible regarding her life and her children's life. Whatever happens to her will have an impact on them one way or another. Mental illness aside she is acting like an immature brat and that my dear friends is cureable with a good swift kick in the arse!

 

[Floh]

I feel like I can't hold back anymore and that everybody is afraid to say what they really feel here and I don't like it.. Just because there MAY be some kind of mental illness brewing inside of Britney does NOT give her the right to act the way she is acting. She is being extremely irresponsible regarding her life and her children's life. Whatever happens to her will have an impact on them one way or another. Mental illness aside she is acting like an immature brat and that my dear friends is cureable with a good swift kick in the arse!

Others have said this on this forum. you're not alone. :blowkiss:

 

[Jeana (DP)]

I feel like I can't hold back anymore and that everybody is afraid to say what they really feel here and I don't like it.. Just because there MAY be some kind of mental illness brewing inside of Britney does NOT give her the right to act the way she is acting. She is being extremely irresponsible regarding her life and her children's life. Whatever happens to her will have an impact on them one way or another. Mental illness aside she is acting like an immature brat and that my dear friends is cureable with a good swift kick in the arse!

Darlin, you're in the wrong forum if you think the posters here are afraid to say what they really feel.

 

[philamena]

You got that right Jeana.
This forum is rather mild, imo.