All Things Jose Baez Questions, Comments, Actions , Discussion #3

[LaLaw2000]

Baez was on the Geraldo show Sunday night, then on the Today Show, and yesterday was on 'The Best Defense' with Jamie Floyd on TruTv. He must have already prepared for the pre-trial hearing because he has made these rounds on TV shows. He surely does not seem worried about it, even tho these pre-trial hearings are just formalities.

Now he says Casey is 100% innocent. Casey is possibly facing life in prison. You would think he would just stay in his office, shut up, and work on the defense he is going to present at trial. UNLESS there has been some sort of plea deal.

 

[zoey]

Baez was on the Geraldo show Sunday night, then on the Today Show, and yesterday was on 'The Best Defense' with Jamie Floyd on TruTv. He must have already prepared for the pre-trial hearing because he has made these rounds on TV shows. He surely does not seem worried about it, even tho these pre-trial hearings are just formalities.

Now he says Casey is 100% innocent. Casey is possibly facing life in prison. You would think he would just stay in his office, shut up, and work on the defense he is going to present at trial. UNLESS there has been some sort of plea deal.

(bold by me)

one would think...that would be logical to work on a defense....perhaps he is "looking" for Caylee as well....following up on a "sighting"?????

jmo

 

[BeanE]

There's a lot of behind the scenes paperwork going on. This was on myorangeclerk.com re: KC Case Actions
12/9/2008 A STATE' S MOTION TO STRIKE DEFENSE WITNESS LIST (COPY OF DEFENSE WITNESS LIST ATTACHED - EXHIBIT A)

and today also:
12/9/2008 A AMENDED STATE WITNESS LIST FILED

Maybe we will get that tomorrow.

Can someone explain what the motion to strike defense witness list is please? Is this similar to a motion to strike testimony, except they're asking for all the defense witnesses not even to be allowed to testify?

I googled but couldn't find a simple explanation.

Thanks in advance!

 

[EgyptNug]

The position he and the Anthonys are taking is illogical--if they are prying "clues" out of KC to track down a kidnapper--necessary because of the allegeded threat to family--how can they square getting "clues" and not the whole story from the start to find her? If there are kidnappers involved, why would it make any difference if the woman-child led them to them through clues or by being honest with every detail? It's ludicrous in my view and plays on the sentiments of the public who can't stand the idea of a little one like Caylee being so cruelly treated.

Exactly.

GA told KC that if it was because the family was threatened, they could all go into protective custody. That would be a blessing (imo) for this family, they will never have their lives back if they keep their identities. IF (and I don't believe for a second it's true) but IF there was a kidnapping, then you get LE's help, get Caylee, and go into hiding. End of story, baby is back home safe and sound, the A's all get to rebuild lives, and maybe even GA gets a job he can't be fired from via witness relocation.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I seriously doubt that ruthless kidnappers would spare lives because KC is giving clues and not specifics. Just doesn't make sense.

 

[Capri]

Can someone explain what the motion to strike defense witness list is please? Is this similar to a motion to strike testimony, except they're asking for all the defense witnesses not even to be allowed to testify?

I googled but couldn't find a simple explanation.

Thanks in advance!

Bumping to see if someone can explain. One witness? All 3 witnesses? Based on what?

 

[Recovering-Lurker]

There's a lot of behind the scenes paperwork going on. This was on myorangeclerk.com re: KC Case Actions
12/9/2008 A STATE' S MOTION TO STRIKE DEFENSE WITNESS LIST (COPY OF DEFENSE WITNESS LIST ATTACHED - EXHIBIT A)

and today also:
12/9/2008 A AMENDED STATE WITNESS LIST FILED

Maybe we will get that tomorrow.

Oh yay! :woohoo: I have been waiting and waiting. Thanks for finding that.

 

[MiraclesHappen]

Bumping to see if someone can explain. One witness? All 3 witnesses? Based on what?

We need to see the actual motion to know its basis. People get creative in criminal law, too.

The prosecution might be alleging that JB has failed to comply with his mandated discovery obligations. The rules providing for release of information by the prosecution to the defense, are a 2 way street in Florida.

If JB has failed to disclose any matters which are mandated by Rule 3.220 governing discovery,
or if JB has blocked mandated discovery in any way,

the prosecutions' response is going to be a "hardball" tactic like this.

Good for them!:blowkiss:
We really need the motion, though.


The prosecutors are dealing with this situation per JB's witness list:




(7) expert witnesses who have not provided a written report
and a curriculum vitae or who are going to testify to test results or give opinions that will have to meet the test set
forth in Frye v. United States, 293 F. 1013 (D.C. Cir. 1923).

(from Category A witness definition)


Defense also per the discovery rule, has to provide this:

(ii) reports or statements of experts made in connection with the particular case, including results of
physical or mental examinations and of scientific tests, experiments, or comparisons; and..

We need the motion but if you saw a motion to strike the witnesses then yes, it is to prevent their testimony, period.

This is only a guess without viewing the motion but there is a possibility it is based on JB';s failure to provide mandated information under his discovery obligations to the State.

Had he not created such a personally hostile environment, which is different than an adversarial proceeding by nature, there might have been an exchange of courtesy phone calls, instead of this .

jmho along with wild speculation

 

[MiraclesHappen]

Bumping to see if someone can explain. One witness? All 3 witnesses? Based on what?

I gave it a shot, Capri, but we need a copy of the motion.

Actually, we need the criminal rules of procedure amended to include automatic filing of motions, by opposing sides, in a timely fashion, in the WS documents thread, to facilitate discussion. :wink:

Is that asking too much.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Baez files Duces Tecum motion....

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Anthony's subpeoma duces tecum.pdf

 

[angelmom]

Baez files Duces Tecum motion....

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Anthony's subpeoma duces tecum.pdf

Well thank Heaven for NG explaining what he needed to do on Monday night's show or he'd never get anything done!

Maybe tonight she can have a tutorial on change of venue.

 

[MiraclesHappen]

Well thank Heaven for NG explaining what he needed to do on Monday night's show or he'd never get anything done!

Maybe tonight she can have a tutorial on change of venue.

She did that tutorial last night. :wink:

 

[zoey]

Well thank Heaven for NG explaining what he needed to do on Monday night's show or he'd never get anything done!

Maybe tonight she can have a tutorial on change of venue.

perhaps he misplaced his laptop??????? also he did have an airplane ride to talk with the media because they have detained him from giving his client his personal counsel :boohooor something like that---he mentioned it on I believe the today show....):waitasec:

jmo

 

[Lisa-Rachelle]

not that it matters, but the guy really gives me a weird feeling. watching him talk, i almost feel nausiated. something about him really bothers me........

 

[zoey]

not that it matters, but the guy really gives me a weird feeling. watching him talk, i almost feel nausiated. something about him really bothers me........

then lisa-rachelle this is just for you:
a pre-trial hearing on the murder charges, and there will also be a hearing on the checkBaez will be back in court Thursday for another hearing in the case. There will be fraud charges that Casey Anthony is facing.

Baez will hold a press conference at his office at 3 p.m. Wednesday


this was on the update area----chanel 13 are you gonna view it????? :waitasec:


what happened to that new line "no comment"--I had such hope......

however I did locate a word of the day: JEER----hmmmmmmmmm:waitasec:
jmo

 

[JohnVaughanCauthen]

(in another thread) How does Baez plan to 'tell her side of the story?' He can't testify and what he says means nothing. What he says isn't evidence. From what we have seen he has no one testifying on her behalf other than perhaps a few dna specialists that will say the dna evidence is no good. Who is going to prove her side in court? who is going to prove someone kidnapped Caylee?

If Jesse admitted to setting up an adoption, that would be strong.

Also, the press needs to investigate Casey's ties to the Orlando prostitution business. Casey's involvement in that side of the story needs to be told. Why did Casey have a check for $4000 that didn't clear? Who wrote the check?

If the Orlando prostitution connection isn't thoroughly investigated, Casey has little chance. It looks like Baez advised her not to talk so he can be a hero in court and become famous. But at this point, telling her side of the story in court won't work: that is, if the real story is what I speculate: an illegal adoption. Even having Jesse’s admission to his part in it, that story won't be believed without the press digging into Casey’s involvement with the escort business, people she seems to be very afraid of.

Casey constantly, emphatically claims that someone will do something to Caylee if she talks. Who?

 

[BeanE]

We need to see the actual motion to know its basis. People get creative in criminal law, too.

The prosecution might be alleging that JB has failed to comply with his mandated discovery obligations. The rules providing for release of information by the prosecution to the defense, are a 2 way street in Florida.

If JB has failed to disclose any matters which are mandated by Rule 3.220 governing discovery,
or if JB has blocked mandated discovery in any way,

the prosecutions' response is going to be a "hardball" tactic like this.

Good for them!:blowkiss:
We really need the motion, though.


The prosecutors are dealing with this situation per JB's witness list:




(7) expert witnesses who have not provided a written report
and a curriculum vitae or who are going to testify to test results or give opinions that will have to meet the test set
forth in Frye v. United States, 293 F. 1013 (D.C. Cir. 1923).

(from Category A witness definition)


Defense also per the discovery rule, has to provide this:

(ii) reports or statements of experts made in connection with the particular case, including results of
physical or mental examinations and of scientific tests, experiments, or comparisons; and..

We need the motion but if you saw a motion to strike the witnesses then yes, it is to prevent their testimony, period.

This is only a guess without viewing the motion but there is a possibility it is based on JB';s failure to provide mandated information under his discovery obligations to the State.

Had he not created such a personally hostile environment, which is different than an adversarial proceeding by nature, there might have been an exchange of courtesy phone calls, instead of this .

jmho along with wild speculation

Thank you, Miracles!

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Maybe someone will Baker Act JB before this goes to trial. (sigh) Hey...I can dream, can't I?! LOL

 

[jmfstl]

BAEZ WANTS DETECTIVES INVESTIGATED


Jose Baez wants to investigate detectives from the Orange County Sheriff's Office. Wednesday, Baez sent someone to the sheriff's office to get the personnel files of detectives John Allen and Yuri Melich.

However, he didn't pick up the list of 1,800 Caylee sightings that he requested over a month ago. Despite all the evidence, the Anthonys insist Caylee is alive.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18251770/detail.html

 

[madeleine]

BAEZ WANTS DETECTIVES INVESTIGATED


Jose Baez wants to investigate detectives from the Orange County Sheriff's Office. Wednesday, Baez sent someone to the sheriff's office to get the personnel files of detectives John Allen and Yuri Melich.

However, he didn't pick up the list of 1,800 Caylee sightings that he requested over a month ago. Despite all the evidence, the Anthonys insist Caylee is alive.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18251770/detail.html

Oh great

Did he check if they planted any bloody gloves in the A's backyard?

 

[21merc7]

Maybe someone will Baker Act JB before this goes to trial. (sigh) Hey...I can dream, can't I?! LOL

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