Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #33

[Gemini Girl]

:floorlaugh: sounds pretty silly hey?

But it does make you think about GBC and his conniving frame of mind. This is a man, who by all accounts, is relentless in his pursuit of money, and women.

He has thought up every scam under the sun, I believe, in order to make money. I did the briefest of searches on ASIC and uncovered 11 (yes ELEVEN) different businesses, partnerships and trusts in his and his parents names, jointly most times. He has scammed so many people who aren't stupid because they themselves are in a good enough financial situation that they can invest in some of his lameass schemes. (it might appear they are stupid for believing him, but this might just be his one and only area of expertise......charming ********) So he possesses a fair amount of creativity and imagination.

He uses this same singular skill to get women (shudder, I'll never see it). But he does.

So we have a mind that is ALWAYS on the go. I dont think a man like this, when he is going after something he wants, whether it be a business idea, or a 'chick he wants to pants', will find ANY IDEA TOO FAR FETCHED. If ihe can think it, well, he can do it. To me this personality trait of his screams out loud and clear.

Just ask him, he will tell you.......he's special

So, while I am certainly not saying he did this, I am saying that if he considered it (which, IMO, its possible he considered a million ways to kill his wife) then he would have believed in himself enough to try it.

Yes Minni another poster once accurately nicknamed him FIGJAM

(If you need a translation please do a search, I don't want to be sent to the caterpillar patch, lol)

:blushing:

MOO

 

[BJsleuth]

:floorlaugh: sounds pretty silly hey?

But it does make you think about GBC and his conniving frame of mind. This is a man, who by all accounts, is relentless in his pursuit of money, and women.

He has thought up every scam under the sun, I believe, in order to make money. I did the briefest of searches on ASIC and uncovered 11 (yes ELEVEN) different businesses, partnerships and trusts in his and his parents names, jointly most times. He has scammed so many people who aren't stupid because they themselves are in a good enough financial situation that they can invest in some of his lameass schemes. (it might appear they are stupid for believing him, but this might just be his one and only area of expertise......charming ********) So he possesses a fair amount of creativity and imagination.

He uses this same singular skill to get women (shudder, I'll never see it). But he does.

So we have a mind that is ALWAYS on the go. I dont think a man like this, when he is going after something he wants, whether it be a business idea, or a 'chick he wants to pants', will find ANY IDEA TOO FAR FETCHED. If ihe can think it, well, he can do it. To me this personality trait of his screams out loud and clear.

Just ask him, he will tell you.......he's special

So, while I am certainly not saying he did this, I am saying that if he considered it (which, IMO, its possible he considered a million ways to kill his wife) then he would have believed in himself enough to try it.

There are a lot of things it seems he was ignorant to and just didn't know, maybe that was another one.

 

[minni]

For some unknown reason, I don't see Allison as a person who would storm out in a huff. Possibility (b) means that she was so "huffed" that she proceded for another ??k until she got to where she was found. Not bad for a non-walker.

In GBC's only public interview, he said that Allison was fine when she went missing. Either way one looks at G's various reports, he is a liar.

I have to disagree BobbieE. Allison may have been a lovely, intelligent and kind by nature type of girl. I agree with you 100% that she was. I agree that for a non walker that would be an effort. I certainly agree GBC is a liar. But the part I disagree with is thast she wouldnt leave the house in a huff.

this is just my opinion, but whether you still love someone, or are fighting for marriage, or just struggling to live each daywithout that constant battle of figthing and pushing **** uphill, you begin to take on the behaviour necessary to get through each day. If your husband is constantly at you, belittling you, whinging at you, rooting around, ignoring you...you have to adjust to a degree. I dont think I will be able to explain this properly, but I know in my heart, that Allison, sweet as she was, would have had a huge amount of hurt and anger in her. She would be more thatn capable of 'going off her nut' at him. This is just my opinion, not only from my own experiences, but many, many women I have talked too.

I could be wrong, and I really do not meant to offend anyone, or especially disrespect Allison.

 

[BJsleuth]

As much as most of us are curious to know how Allison was killed, and the why and where, it's always going to be horrendous - what little we do know is that she was murdered.

To change the subject just for a bit...is anyone 'wearing it for Allison' today?

Here's a yellow song anyway

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfUOrjnzqNw&feature=related

Yep, I have a sunny yellow dress on!

 

[minni]

Possibly Minni, cream to soothe it too perhaps?

poor boy was a little bit hurt.............THANK GOD he's ok

 

[minni]

Yes Minni another poster once accurately nicknamed him FIGJAM

(If you need a translation please do a search, I don't want to be sent to the caterpillar patch, lol)

:blushing:

MOO

my husband used to work with a kind of sexy young fella....all the boys called him FIGJAM haha because whilst it was true he was a bit hot....no one thought so more than him

 

[LauraMars]

I feel really melancholic today. I keep thinking about Allison's parents and the hell they must be going through, and will always go through in a way.

As a mum, I'm sure it's every parents nightmare for your children to 'go' before you, but for your child to be murdered has got to be just the worst thing, and even worse (if it's possible) for that to be at the hand of their spouse.

As much as we will always be parents, even with grown up kids, I think that when you have a child who marries/partners up with someone long term, that you want that person to take the utmost care of your darlings. It must be so heartbreaking for them.

I can't even begin to imagine what it's like for the girls, too hard to go there really, already crying.

 

[possumheart]

Yep, I have a sunny yellow dress on!

I brought a toy possum to work with me today for Allison because I have always wanted to bring a toy possum to work. It was so cold this morning I couldn't think glamorous so I just settled for the possum. Makes sense to me :skip:

 

[Gemini Girl]

I feel really melancholic today. I keep thinking about Allison's parents and the hell they must be going through, and will always go through in a way.

As a mum, I'm sure it's every parents nightmare for your children to 'go' before you, but for your child to be murdered has got to be just the worst thing, and even worse (if it's possible) for that to be at the hand of their spouse.

As much as we will always be parents, even with grown up kids, I think that when you have a child who marries/partners up with someone long term, that you want that person to take the utmost care of your darlings. It must be so heartbreaking for them.

I can't even begin to imagine what it's like for the girls, too hard to go there really, already crying.

When I see that silly TV ad where the young father bends over his sleeping baby's cot and says something like "I promise I will always keep you safe" I think immediately of parents I know who have lost children (and I am one of the many) in any number of ways, despite all the possible love and care in the world, and I am tempted to start shouting at the TV (variation on talking to BP's picture lol).

And as you say LM, murder must be the most horrific way to lose a child, especially at the hands of somebody who supposedly loved them and who promised to cherish them.

My heart aches for the Dickies

:candle:

JMO MOO

 

[Indromum]

Bump :bump:

Doc, I am with you on that. Is there a back way to Mt Crosby Road that would not see the need for him to sit in that lane turning right from Moggill Road????

I haven't heard from Doc Watson - can any of you locals supply us with this info??

I am interested in the most subvertive way, one could drive unseen onto Mt Crosby Road

I am still catching up so this may have already been posted : when I lived out that way I sometimes turned right into Grandview Road off Moggill Road (the turn before Mt Crosby Rd) and then turned left into Lancing St then left into O'Brien / Boyle road- it takes you to Mt Crosby Rd in a few minutes...it was a back way onto Mt Crosby Rd if there was an accident further down Moggill Road.
Sorry if this has been mentioned.

 

[possumheart]

When I see that silly TV ad where the young father bends over his sleeping baby's cot and says something like "I promise I will always keep you safe" I think immediately of parents I know who have lost children (and I am one of the many) in any number of ways, despite all the possible love and care in the world, and I am tempted to start shouting at the TV (variation on talking to BP's picture lol).

And as you say LM, murder must be the most horrific way to lose a child, especially at the hands of somebody who supposedly loved them and who promised to cherish them.

My heart aches for the Dickies

:candle:

JMO MOO

Gemini Girl, if we were too frightened to love (in case we lost who we love) our lives would be so empty.

I know what you mean though.

:candle:

 

[minni]

I feel really melancholic today. I keep thinking about Allison's parents and the hell they must be going through, and will always go through in a way.

As a mum, I'm sure it's every parents nightmare for your children to 'go' before you, but for your child to be murdered has got to be just the worst thing, and even worse (if it's possible) for that to be at the hand of their spouse.

As much as we will always be parents, even with grown up kids, I think that when you have a child who marries/partners up with someone long term, that you want that person to take the utmost care of your darlings. It must be so heartbreaking for them.

I can't even begin to imagine what it's like for the girls, too hard to go there really, already crying.

Aawww Laura, I understand your emotions you are feeling today. Your post has brought a tear to my eye too. Its not the way things are supposed to go is it? Your children are always your children, no matter how old they are. It always breaks me when I think of how he took those little girls mther away from them. But something that I think people dont look deep enough into is that he didnt just take those little girls mother from them, he took the woman they will grow up to be, he took THEIR mother from them. Because it doesnt matter how old you are...your children are always your children, and your mother is always your mother.
and you always need her.


big big big hugs to you LM xxxxxxx :blowkiss:

 

[minni]

When I see that silly TV ad where the young father bends over his sleeping baby's cot and says something like "I promise I will always keep you safe" I think immediately of parents I know who have lost children (and I am one of the many) in any number of ways, despite all the possible love and care in the world, and I am tempted to start shouting at the TV (variation on talking to BP's picture lol).

And as you say LM, murder must be the most horrific way to lose a child, especially at the hands of somebody who supposedly loved them and who promised to cherish them.

My heart aches for the Dickies

:candle:

JMO MOO

hugs for you too GG :blowkiss:

 

[Gemini Girl]

Gemini Girl, if we were too frightened to love (in case we lost who we love) our lives would be so empty.

I know what you mean though.

:candle:

Oh Possumheart, agree entirely, just sometimes parents feel over confident in their ability to protect children from all harm.

Not that I am saying for a minute they shouldn't therefore risk having and loving them ( and others).

Oh no, we must risk love and life, most definitely

:heartbeat:

JMO MOO

 

[DrWatson]

I am still catching up so this may have already been posted : when I lived out that way I sometimes turned right into Grandview Road off Moggill Road (the turn before Mt Crosby Rd) and then turned left into Lancing St then left into O'Brien / Boyle road- it takes you to Mt Crosby Rd in a few minutes...it was a back way onto Mt Crosby Rd if there was an accident further down Moggill Road.
Sorry if this has been mentioned.

Yup - that'd be another way to do it, although it may attract a bit more attention, as those roads are normally very quiet.

I mentioned the possibility of going further out then onto Sugars Rd and Kangaroo Gully Rd. But that's a long way round.

At that time of night I think the most direct and least noticeable route would be to turn off Moggill Rd at the McIntyre Centre, straight onto Mt Crosby Rd. You wouldn't have to be sitting in that right-turn lane at all. Straight in, I would have thought....

 

[DrWatson]

Just to pose another thought....

Let's just assume for a minute that GBC did NOT do it. But knows who did...

Who would he go to jail for? Who would he be protecting?

Maybe the common assumption is back to front? Maybe the other person did the deed (still don't know the why, how, where, when), and then GBC was the one who "tidied up" afterwards.

Who would he have such strong ties to that he would protect him or her by saying nothing? NBC? TM?

Just putting another possibility out there.....

And maybe the scratches etc were the result of him doing the Kholo Creek thing, but not due to Allison scratching at all?

Just idle musing here while I have a short break....

 

[Gemini Girl]

Just to pose another thought....

Let's just assume for a minute that GBC did NOT do it. But knows who did...

Who would he go to jail for? Who would he be protecting?

Maybe the common assumption is back to front? Maybe the other person did the deed (still don't know the why, how, where, when), and then GBC was the one who "tidied up" afterwards.

Who would he have such strong ties to that he would protect him or her by saying nothing? NBC? TM?

Just putting another possibility out there.....

And maybe the scratches etc were the result of him doing the Kholo Creek thing, but not due to Allison scratching at all?

Just idle musing here while I have a short break....

It's an interesting thought Dr Watson.

Have difficulty seeing him as having enough altruistic feeling to protect another party in such a way, but then I don't really know GBC at all.

:twocents:

JMO MOO

 

[linette]

Oh Possumheart, agree entirely, just sometimes parents feel over confident in their ability to protect children from all harm.

Not that I am saying for a minute they shouldn't therefore risk having and loving them ( and others).

Oh no, we must risk love and life, most definitely

:heartbeat:

JMO MOO

I know what you mean... I've always been accutely aware that no matter how protective we are as parents, no matter how much we love our kids... we can never 100% protect them. It's impossible.
My heart goes out to you

 

[linette]

Just to pose another thought....

Let's just assume for a minute that GBC did NOT do it. But knows who did...

Who would he go to jail for? Who would he be protecting?

Maybe the common assumption is back to front? Maybe the other person did the deed (still don't know the why, how, where, when), and then GBC was the one who "tidied up" afterwards.

Who would he have such strong ties to that he would protect him or her by saying nothing? NBC? TM?

Just putting another possibility out there.....

And maybe the scratches etc were the result of him doing the Kholo Creek thing, but not due to Allison scratching at all?

Just idle musing here while I have a short break....

I think he is way too arrogant to take the fall for anyone. I can't see that... certainly not TM...

 

[DunnoZo]

Just to pose another thought....

Let's just assume for a minute that GBC did NOT do it. But knows who did...

Who would he go to jail for? Who would he be protecting?

Maybe the common assumption is back to front? Maybe the other person did the deed (still don't know the why, how, where, when), and then GBC was the one who "tidied up" afterwards.

Who would he have such strong ties to that he would protect him or her by saying nothing? NBC? TM?

Just putting another possibility out there.....

And maybe the scratches etc were the result of him doing the Kholo Creek thing, but not due to Allison scratching at all?

Just idle musing here while I have a short break....

I've always thought (besides his kids) there would only be one person he would go through all this to protect.