Amanda Knox tried for the murder of Meredith Kercher in Italy *NEW TRIAL*#10

[Allusonz]

Wouldn't it be necessary to have equal, or better, credentials before someone is in a position to criticize the professionial credentials of Dr Stefanoni?

Lots do and have spoken vocally about much of this from around the world. It still does not change the fact that she does not have a doctorate no matter which side one looks at it from.

 

[otto]

Italian legal website discussing contingency fees and related changes in Italian law in 2006

http://www.canestrinilex.com/resources/legal-fee-italy/

That certainly provides information about that law firm.

 

[otto]

Lots do and have spoken vocally about much of this from around the world. It still does not change the fact that she does not have a doctorate no matter which side one looks at it from.

When was the phd program introduced in Italy?

 

[Allusonz]

Since when is it unethical to present evidence during a criminal trial?

If a lawyer wishes to be brought up on contempt charges, with the possibility of losing ones law license, then go for it.

I guess it could be kinda like a doctor not going to medical school and operating on people.

I know I would not risk my reputation or way to make a living that way but each to their own I guess.

 

[Karmady]

That certainly provides information about that law firm.

More than that, it provides information about the change in the contingency fee law which applies to all lawyers and law firms in Italy. I believe the law is cited by number in the article. If not, I'm sure I can find many more links. That type of reform would be a big deal for the Italian plaintiff's bar (or any plaintiff's bar) jmo

 

[Monzoo]

It was a murder trial, not public entertainment. What sort of sideways shift is happening when it seems reasonable to complain that murder scene photos were presented during a murder trial?

Absolutely graphic photos are to be expected during a murder trial. It is my hope that they would be shown to illustrate points, and be done with respect to the dead.

What the Kercher's lawyer did was show graphic photos of Meredith, without warning, at an unexpected time. This was done not for the purpose of illustrating evidence, but in order to shock and inflame.

This was, in my opinion, a disgusting action by this lawyer. I can't imagine the Kercher's would have agreed with it had they known he was going to do it.

 

[TorisMom003]

Clearly it's an entirely different situation. In the US, a person is convicted and then there's a civil case to clean out the pockets. In the US, the lawyer probably works for free because the civil case is pretty much guaranteed to be successful.

What is happening in this trial is entirely different. My understanding is that the lawyer is hired and paid throughout the proceedings.

BBM

Clearly the bolded section is not accurate. One does not have to be convicted to have a civil case against them. OJ Simpson should ring a bell. Plus I am sure there have been numerous others as well.

 

[SMK]

I was just noting the amount of times I have seen Ron Hendry's name and theory cited on other forums, and on posts which respond to articles

(sorry, was just peeking at another forum while you fought about PhDs and contingency attorneys, and someone had exclaimed, "Read Ron Hendry!) :blushing: )......

I often wonder if Ron Hendry had not written his brilliant "Lone Wolf" thesis, if there would be such a divide in this case, and such absolute scorn and complete dismissal for the Italian investigators.....
With subtitles such as, "A Bungled Investigation: Police altered the crime scene with sloppy procedures that led to a flawed conclusion" it seems he was able to wholly dismiss any consideration, thereafter, for the original investigators and their conclusions. Case closed, as it were.

 

[TorisMom003]

Since Ron Hendry is not the only one that has given their professional opinion of this case, I'd have to say no that even if Ron had not written his lone wolf theory that there are those that have looked at the evidence themselves that would still say it was Guede alone.

MOO

 

[SMK]

Since Ron Hendry is not the only one that has given their professional opinion of this case, I'd have to say no that even if Ron had not written his lone wolf theory that there are those that have looked at the evidence themselves that would still say it was Guede alone.

MOO

You may be right, but I don't know; it is HIS name which comes up continually, and not others (the only other two who seem to remotely have his status are Dr. Halkides and Bruce Fisher.)

 

[sherlockh]

Absolutely graphic photos are to be expected during a murder trial. It is my hope that they would be shown to illustrate points, and be done with respect to the dead.

What the Kercher's lawyer did was show graphic photos of Meredith, without warning, at an unexpected time. This was done not for the purpose of illustrating evidence, but in order to shock and inflame.

This was, in my opinion, a disgusting action by this lawyer. I can't imagine the Kercher's would have agreed with it had they known he was going to do it.

BBM. There is no evidence supporting this claim so this can't be stated as fact. A judge is responsible for what happens in the court room.

 

[TorisMom003]

Really all one needs to look at is the video of the Italian investigators and their behavior and standards (for lack of a better word) when finally retrieving evidence left at the cottage for more than a month to see that things were done poorly. Then to know that the investigators declared case closed before they had even retrieved that important evidence or had it tested tells a lot as well. Some really don't need to read the words of someone else to make up their minds about the evidence, or lack of, against two people accused of a crime. Some can and do look at the evidence, videos and everything else themselves to make up their own minds.

MOO

 

[TorisMom003]

Other civil plaintiffs include the Kercher family. Their attorney, Francesco Maresca, first showed the court on Monday a photo of a smiling Kercher, telling the jurors: "Look at her. She was a beautiful girl in the prime of her life."

Minutes later, he showed images of her dead body covered in blood.

"I don't want to shock you or make a show out of this," Maresca told the jurors. "But this is to show you her suffering."

"We're not in a TV show," he added.

Silence fell in the courtroom as the images appeared on a screen. Knox mostly seemed to keep her head down.

Graphic photos have been shown to the court before, but behind closed doors. In this case the courtroom wasn't cleared and the photos were run repeatedly for a few minutes. Maresca later apologized for not asking that the room be cleared.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/44668677/#.UrOxC04o4iR

The bolded part tells me that he was concerned that at least some would suspect him of trying to shock everyone in the courtroom. Otherwise why would he say those words?

 

[otto]

Other civil plaintiffs include the Kercher family. Their attorney, Francesco Maresca, first showed the court on Monday a photo of a smiling Kercher, telling the jurors: "Look at her. She was a beautiful girl in the prime of her life."

Minutes later, he showed images of her dead body covered in blood.

"I don't want to shock you or make a show out of this," Maresca told the jurors. "But this is to show you her suffering."

"We're not in a TV show," he added.

Silence fell in the courtroom as the images appeared on a screen. Knox mostly seemed to keep her head down.

Graphic photos have been shown to the court before, but behind closed doors. In this case the courtroom wasn't cleared and the photos were run repeatedly for a few minutes. Maresca later apologized for not asking that the room be cleared.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/44668677/#.UrOxC04o4iR

The bolded part tells me that he was concerned that at least some would suspect him of trying to shock everyone in the courtroom. Otherwise why would he say those words?

Should we feel sorry for people that attended a murder trial and were exposed to crime scene evidence? If so, let's offer them our condolences and move on. I'm sure they were very traumatized by the unexpected.

 

[TorisMom003]

Should we feel sorry for people that attended a murder trial and were exposed to crime scene evidence? If so, let's offer them our condolences and move on. I'm sure they were very traumatized by the unexpected.

Careful. Especially when families of the victims are in court as well and have many times been very upset about seeing their loved one in that way. The Kercher civil lawyer admitted that he did not ask for the courtroom to be cleared before he flashed the photos of Meredith, on loop, for all to see after she was brutally murdered. I expect that the Kerchers themselves were not excited about that, more than likely they didn't expect it either since in the past they were given warning by the lawyer asking for the courtroom to be cleared first.

MOO

 

[otto]

Careful. Especially when families of the victims are in court as well and have many times been very upset about seeing their loved one in that way. The Kercher civil lawyer admitted that he did not ask for the courtroom to be cleared before he flashed the photos of Meredith, on loop, for all to see after she was brutally murdered. I expect that the Kerchers themselves were not excited about that, more than likely they didn't expect it either since in the past they were given warning by the lawyer asking for the courtroom to be cleared first.

MOO

What family members were in the courtroom?

 

[TorisMom003]

What family members were in the courtroom?

My mistake, I forgot that Meredith's family have not been in the courtroom. They plan to attend later, yes? So since her family was not there in person, the others can suck it and deal with a lawyer that behaved in a unprofessional way. Pity that the same level of concern is not given to everyone but is only reserved for the Kercher family themselves.

 

[Amber29]

If a lawyer wishes to be brought up on contempt charges, with the possibility of losing ones law license, then go for it.

I guess it could be kinda like a doctor not going to medical school and operating on people.

I know I would not risk my reputation or way to make a living that way but each to their own I guess.

Was Maresca held in contempt of court or reprimanded for showing the pictures in the courtroom?

I'm serious in asking because I do not know.

 

[otto]

My mistake, I forgot that Meredith's family have not been in the courtroom. They plan to attend later, yes? So since her family was not there in person, the others can suck it and deal with a lawyer that behaved in a unprofessional way. Pity that the same level of concern is not given to everyone but is only reserved for the Kercher family themselves.

Who exactly was offended by the presentation of crime scene photos during a criminal trial?

 

[TorisMom003]

Who exactly was offended by the presentation of crime scene photos during a criminal trial?

Perhaps the ones that gasped. One can defend the man and try to make this as trivial as one wants, however it does not negate the fact that he did not follow courtroom procedures. He messed up, plain and simple. Now was it intentional or was it an accident? Since he apologized and said that he didn't do it to "shock anyone" then I would have to say that it was intentional.