Amanda Knox tried for the murder of Meredith Kercher in Italy *NEW TRIAL*#12

[MichaelSmith]

Pro-guilt logic:

Homeless heroin junkie high on heroin career criminal Curatolo = credible

Famous litigator John Q Kelly = "does not know what the real evidence is"

 

[aa9511]

He's one of the most famous and well respected litigators in the United States. He doesn't put his reputation on the line talking about something he knows nothing about let alone declaring someone innocent who might be guilty. He's a pro victim attorney. Read his bio. You can always learn new things.

Well seeing as he's alreadey famous and well-respected, I can see why he would have no reason to fear his reputation going down. It's those that end of talking the most, isn't that ironic? The ones who are still working on their reputations, they tend to stay silent on these high-profile cases. On top of that, most of America has only heard the "talking points' regarding Amanda's case, so of course they are not going to stand up and tell him he's wrong. So what did he have to lose??

 

[aa9511]

Do y'all mean that even if Rudy came out with a complete confession that he broke in and was solely responsible for Meredith's death, that you would not believe him? Would still see Amanda's and Raffaele's hands in it?

The two comments - Quesarita's and Myvice's - have nothing to do with each other, I don't know why you would quote them together? Myvice wondered if Rudy will say anything after he gets out. Quesarita said she think she will hurt more people. I said I don't know if he will talk or not, maybe he will sell his "story" because likely he will need the money. Or, he could just want the whole thing behind him and to move on, and thus not speak a word. To which Myvice replied to my post, yes I agree.

I don't know where you are getting combining the two, and then going on a whole 'nother tangent and talking about how we won't believe him if he confesses?

Where did that come from?

 

[redheadedgal]

Hellman's opinion was annulled by the Supreme Court of Italy because he made serious errors in judgement. During cross examination, I think it was Conti, but it might have been Vecchioti, that confirmed that there was no doubt that the DNA belonged to Meredith ... along with agreeing that there was no possibility of contamination in the lab.

can i see the links for these two assertions? -- thanks!

 

[aa9511]

Pro-guilt logic:

Homeless heroin junkie high on heroin career criminal Curatolo = credible

Famous litigator John Q Kelly = "does not know what the real evidence is"

Just because he's famous doesn't mean he knows a lick about the details of Amanda's case or Meredith's murder. Geez! I'm sure he has a million other things he has on his plate, then going around reading thousands of pages of documents on the case.

I don't know where you are getting that just because he is famous for other cases, that he knows everything about Meredith Kercher's murder!

 

[sherlockh]

Is he a defense attorney for Amanda Knox? Is he a prosecutor for Amanda Knox? Was he a member of the Italian jury? Did he collect evidence at Meredith Kercher's murder scene? Does he have any knowledge about the case other than the "talking points" which he said, which showed that he has no independent knowledge of this case?

He is on the payroll. VIP

Sollecito’s American lawyer, John Q. Kelly, said he expects his client’s legal battle to continue indefinitely.

http://www.today.com/news/amanda-knox-ex-boyfriend-retrial-i-still-live-nightmare-8C11292611

 

[aa9511]

He is on the payroll. VIP

http://www.today.com/news/amanda-knox-ex-boyfriend-retrial-i-still-live-nightmare-8C11292611

Oh LOL...sorry guys! Then why did he play so dumb in that Larry King clip? I guess he wants to feed the American public standard talking points so they don't get "confused".......................

 

[MichaelSmith]

Well seeing as he's alreadey famous and well-respected, I can see why he would have no reason to fear his reputation going down. It's those that end of talking the most, isn't that ironic? The ones who are still working on their reputations, they tend to stay silent on these high-profile cases. On top of that, most of America has only heard the "talking points' regarding Amanda's case, so of course they are not going to stand up and tell him he's wrong. So what did he have to lose??

What you've written makes no sense at all to me.

Who was going to tell him he's wrong and what would they say? [modsnip}?

 

[MichaelSmith]

He is on the payroll. VIP

http://www.today.com/news/amanda-knox-ex-boyfriend-retrial-i-still-live-nightmare-8C11292611

Another lie. His comments on Larry King were in December 2009. Raffaele hired him in 2013 because he had spoken out in the past.

 

[sherlockh]

Another lie. His comments on Larry King were in December 2009. Raffaele hired him in 2013 because he had spoken out in the past.

I don't see any lie? Apparently he has connections with the accused now, and who knows how far back those connections go. To be honest, I never heard of the good man before, and I am not really into the American 'famous' people. I am just interested in the case and what the evidence leads to. I don't need any 'famous' people to tell me how to think. JMO

 

[Harmony 2]

The acrimony on this thread is palpable. Bashing other’s opinions does not add anything constructive to the discussion. Posters are expected to be respectful of each other - NOT COMBATIVE.

We are here to discuss and analyze the evidence. We are not here to tell others they are wrong or to bash.
We will probably never know who is right so why should that divide us as members of this community.

Each one of us wants the truth about that fateful night.

 

[MichaelSmith]

I don't see any lie? Apparently he has connections with the accused now, and who knows how far back those connections go. To be honest, I never heard of the good man before, and I am not really into the American 'famous' people. I am just interested in the case and what the evidence leads to. I don't need any 'famous' people to tell me how to think. JMO

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Martin Literary Mgmt ‏@martinliterary Sep 23
JUST ANNOUNCED:

RAFFAELE SOLLECITO RETAINS JOHN Q. KELLY, ESQ. AS U.S. COUNSEL FOR THIRD MURDER TRIAL:

 

[Salem]

Stop questioning the motives of the Kerchers. That has nothing to do with the trial.

Salem

And pay heed to Harmony's warning above. TOs are going to be issued. The warning, or a variation thereof, is posted almost daily. Enough. If you can't be respectful - then don't post, or be prepared to loose your posting privileges.

 

[MichaelSmith]

Back to the luminol which was mentioned a few pages ago and a cite provided for when Steffi said a TMB negative means it's not blood, I'm interested in any other case where the prosecution still tried to say it's blood even after testing negative for blood.

Does anyone have a cite for one to compare to this case?

 

[aa9511]

Back to the luminol which was mentioned a few pages ago and a cite provided for when Steffi said a TMB negative means it's not blood, I'm interested in any other case where the prosecution still tried to say it's blood even after testing negative for blood.

Does anyone have a cite for one to compare to this case?

No, I had not heard of TMB before. I'd heard of Luminol, that seems to be more standard.

 

[redheadedgal]

january 21 (tuesday) @ 9pm EST:​

injustice anywhere presents:​

the amanda knox case: analyzing the dna evidence​

websleuths member (professor) chris halkides is one of the participants !! :great:​

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/injust...lyzing-the-dna-evidence#.Utd6gV4dees.facebook​

should be a great show... can't wait to dissect it here lol :gathering:​

bump !!

 

[MichaelSmith]

bump !!

Good one!

The response to the new Facebook page in 36 hours has been impressive. Nearly 1700 likes and rising.

 

[redheadedgal]

Back to the luminol which was mentioned a few pages ago and a cite provided for when Steffi said a TMB negative means it's not blood, I'm interested in any other case where the prosecution still tried to say it's blood even after testing negative for blood.

Does anyone have a cite for one to compare to this case?

no cite, but weeks ago i posted cases where luminol evidence was ruled inadmissible b/c no confirmatory tests had been done...

 

[Snoods]

I can't speak for people on this forum but from things I've read elsewhere, there is a cult like belief in their guilt. Not even Guede confessing would change their minds. They'd just make another excuse for him like they've been doing for years.

Disclaimer: This does not apply to people posting on this forum and I look forward to reading any replies to Bills question.

Didn't Guede already confess, to the dismay of the prosecutors? I don't follow this case as closely as most of you do, but I thought at first he said Amanda wasn't there. The "random Italian dude" murdered MK as he was going potty was "coerced" out of him later. Please correct me if I'm wrong, as I have no doubt y'all will do.

 

[MichaelSmith]

Didn't Guede already confess, to the dismay of the prosecutors? I don't follow this case as closely as most of you do, but I thought at first he said Amanda wasn't there. The "random Italian dude" murdered MK as he was going potty was "coerced" out of him later. Please correct me if I'm wrong, as I have no doubt y'all will do.

He never confessed to killing her but admitted being in the cottage and in the murder room and told his best friend she wasn't involved and some mystery Italian dude knocked on the door while he sat on the toilet and did it. As time went on his story started changing to include them. He said he saw her silhouette while he leaned out the window which happened to be the broken one in Filomena's room. At one point his lawyers were saying a guy seen at the fountain the morning after the murder might be the killer. The only time he ever faced questioning from the defence lawyers was at the last appeal and he handed a letter he couldn't read to Mignini who read it for him saying they killed her. The prosecution and Kercher family lawyer objected to the defence questioning him about the murder.