Amanda Knox tried for the murder of Meredith Kercher in Italy *NEW TRIAL*#13

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  • #881
I have to wonder where her blood came from then that was on the faucet. I've really never thought it came from the neck but photos show her ears looking fine. Could she have had a nose bleed that she forgot about? That's the only kind of injury I can imagine that bleeds enough to leave droplets of blood.

Yes, but then IMO she would have just substituted "nose bleed" for "ear piercings" in her story. I mean, nose bleed is a common thing and it would not be tied to the murder. For example, "the air was very dry that day and my nose bleeds sometimes," or something along those lines.

Whatever she didn't mention is because she doesn't want it known. JMO.
 
  • #882
Sollecito's fingerprint inside Laura's room is a bit interesting.

Yes! That is what I said to. It is so odd. What would be any possible reason for that??
 
  • #883
To be honest I have never seen good close-up photos of both ears during that time period. I noted multiple piercings on the one photo you posted. Supposedly she was a poor domestic cleaner so no telling how long that small droplet had been there.

bbm

So there is abundance of blood from the murder, the other blood in the small bathroom is from the murder, and yet we are supposed to believe that one small droplet is from something elseother than tied to the murder?

That is very improbable to me. JMO.
 
  • #884
Well, he could always say he had checked the rooms for theft by window-thief.
 
  • #885
bbm

So there is abundance of blood from the murder, the other blood in the small bathroom is from the murder, and yet we are supposed to believe that one small droplet is from something elseother than tied to the murder?

That is very improbable to me. JMO.

Alot like the theories that the bare prints in the hallway just outside the victim's locked door were in turnip, beet, or cranberry juice.
 
  • #886
Especially when anybody can google if that would help you avoid extradition. Apparently... he didn't.


I don't think anyone said he was particularly bright.


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  • #887
It's a good thing that there are no "false confessions" in this case!

No, not a false confession, but a very quick determination of guilt, before evidence was analysed showing Rudy's presence. A lot of observations and assertions were published everywhere. The point is the confirmation bias that affects even forensic lab work when everyone associated with the case is "sure" of someone's guilt.
 
  • #888
The only way for the rock to land where it did is if it rebounded off the interior shutter.

You are right, it's rebounded by the inner shutter.

But it's possible if the stone was thrown from the parking pad, if the inner shutter wasn't completly closed. If the inner shutter was half open, the the rock will turn to the left. It's physics and named law of conservation of (angular) momentum.

However, that information was not necessary in order to conclude that the break in was staged. The staged break in was obvious for other reasons.

Wait until Thursday.
 
  • #889
I don't think anyone said he was particularly bright.


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One need only read Knox's email to 23 to see that she's not particularly bright.
 
  • #890
No, not a false confession, but a very quick determination of guilt, before evidence was analysed showing Rudy's presence. A lot of observations and assertions were published everywhere. The point is the confirmation bias that affects even forensic lab work when everyone associated with the case is "sure" of someone's guilt.


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If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck and quacks like a duck... The overwhelming odds are.... It's a DUCK!


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  • #891
Well, there WAS a determination of guilt. AK told them (LE) who attacked and killed Meredith... and she was still scared of the bad man.
 
  • #892
Especially when anybody can google if that would help you avoid extradition. Apparently... he didn't.

:floorlaugh:

He needed to do more of this: :findinglink:
 
  • #893
No, not a false confession, but a very quick determination of guilt, before evidence was analysed showing Rudy's presence. A lot of observations and assertions were published everywhere. The point is the confirmation bias that affects even forensic lab work when everyone associated with the case is "sure" of someone's guilt.

There may be a connection between false confessions and a quick determination of guilt (why wouldn't there be??), but that has nothing to do with this case.

Knox was questions four days after her roommate was murdered. She was acting odd that evening, having skipped Meredith's memorial, and doing gymnastics at the police station. Her mother was arriving the following morning, and Edda's plan was to take Knox to Germany.

One and a half hours after arriving at the police station, Knox introduced Patrick's name, and provided an elaborate story about where they met, what she did, what he did, that Meredith screamed, that Meredith was sexually assaulted, and that Meredith was murdered. Knox described that while Meredith screamed, she plugged her ears with her fingers, and waited in the kitchen. That is a false accusation for the sole purpose of distracting the investigators. Knox fully expected that after accusing Patrick, she would be free to go (because that's how it works on CSI TV), and she could skip town with her mother in the morning.

Tunnel vision is a well known problem. Confirmation bias sounds like a fancy term for an old problem. Police did not have tunnel vision in this case. If they did, Patrick would still be in prison.

Police did not have tunnel vision with Knox. Instead, each time they verified information from Knox, which is what investigators do, they discovered that she was a vicious liar. Knox's repeated lying, absence of alibi and evidence at the crime scene is what resulted in her arrest and conviction.
 
  • #894
Well, there WAS a determination of guilt. AK told them (LE) who attacked and killed Meredith... and she was still scared of the bad man.

That's right. Knox stated that she was very afraid of Patrick, but during trial she was asked if she was afraid of Guede, who had been convicted of participation in the murder, and she stated that she was not afraid of Guede.
 
  • #895
You are right, it's rebounded by the inner shutter.

But it's possible if the stone was thrown from the parking pad, if the inner shutter wasn't completly closed. If the inner shutter was half open, the the rock will turn to the left. It's physics and named law of conservation of (angular) momentum.



Wait until Thursday.

And why didn't the glass follow the same path as the rock. What physics is in play when the glass, which is hit prior to the shutter, continues on the original trajectory of the rock, and the rock turns 90 degrees?
 
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And why didn't the glass follow the same path as the rock. What physics is in play when the glass, which is hit prior to the shutter, continues on the original trajectory of the rock, and the rock turns 90 degrees?

The reason is that the glas was broken in many parts, it wasn't solid. Some parts of glas bounced on the inner shutter. The other parts will be flied through the room, because the inner shutter was half closed. The trajectory of the glas which were bounced on the inner shutter were different from the rock in case of the aerodynamic resistance.

It's not a simple physics problem. There are simulations necessary, but I think, the distribution of the broken glass fits to my theory. The Massei theory was completly wrong. His theory can't explain the distribution of the broken glas and the missing violation of the outer shutter.
 
  • #898
Yes I agree with this. It's seems a few doors were wiped. Even Filomenas window sill, compared to all the other windows. The thing in the living area with RS prints is the fridge, strange that only a RS print is found on the fridge.

Yes, very odd. I am thinking why would they need to have cleaned the kitchen anyway? They must have been cleaning off RS prints in the kitchen, because Rudy prints they wouldn't care about and Amanda prints would have excuse for being in the kitchen. The only one who wouldn't belong was RS. But they could have said RS's were from the day before when they were eating lunch there. So IMO, it was because Rudy's prints were intertwined in the same area with RS prints (kitchen), that's why they cleaned off kitchen surfaces. And even though Amanda lived there, of course she would not want her prints intertwined in same area along with Rudy, either. That would also be the reason they cleaned off the large bathroom - of course fingerprints are not like the footprints, they cannot distinguish who's is who, so they had to clean off all the prints, otherwise their prints would show up alongside/intertwined/same area as Rudy's.
 
  • #899
The reason is that the glas was broken in many parts, it wasn't solid. Some parts of glas bounced on the inner shutter. The other parts will be flied through the room, because the inner shutter was half closed. The trajectory of the glas which were bounced on the inner shutter were different from the rock in case of the aerodynamic resistance.

It's not a simple physics problem. There are simulations necessary, but I think, the distribution of the broken glass fits to my theory. The Massei theory was completly wrong. His theory can't explain the distribution of the broken glas and the missing violation of the outer shutter.

All I can say is that Knox and Sollecito must have been pretty stoned when they cooked up the staged break in because they ransacked Filomina's closet and threw her computer on the floor before they broke the window ... whether they broke the window from inside the bedroom or did some target practice from the parking pad.
 
  • #900
That's right. Knox stated that she was very afraid of Patrick, but during trial she was asked if she was afraid of Guede, who had been convicted of participation in the murder, and she stated that she was not afraid of Guede.

:facepalm:
 
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