Amanda Knox tried for the murder of Meredith Kercher in Italy *NEW TRIAL* #2

[rose222]

Katie Couric interviews Raffaele Sollecito - YouTube

Omg, I just saw this clip of RS on Katie Couric.....can someone please go to 14 minutes and translate his English for me......is he saying that he thinks Rudy Guede's sentence was TOO LONG???!

Katie asked him, so do you think justice was served (talking about Rudy G)? He says, well I have different idea about the enjailment in general. Then she says, oh so you think it wasn't long enough of a sentence? He says, I don't want to judge, from what I experienced, the enjailment has no reason at all, it's not the amount of years spent in prison that can relieve a kind of pain like that? WTH?????

Omg, I think I understood him right. What a monster!

That's a cold and dum$ statement to make. He ought to go back to high school and learn a thing or two. This is what happens when you spend your college years interested in erm...deviant forms of sex. :facepalm:

 

[aa9511]

Do you guys think Rudy Guede might tell what really happened that night once he is released and flees to another country? Not that anything he says would really be believable, but maybe.

 

[rose222]

Wow, he was actually honest for a change. In another interview, I think maybe the Katie Couric one I posted above, she asked him that and he said something like "no, I don't regret it because it's not her fault what happened."

There is something VERY STRANGE about their allegiance to one another. He has repeated many times that he didn't "turn" on Amanda b/c he couldn't live with himself sending an innocent person to prison for the rest of their life. You know what? That is either incredibly noble or a LIE. I'm going with the latter. He had only known her for one week, and he was about to throw away his life for her. Not buyin' it. I believe he didn't "turn" on her b/c then he knew that she could easily "turn" on him and reveal all of his involvement. At least this way there was still a chance he would be found not guilty.

Yep. Considering even the best of the best would not be that noble I'll say that this guy is merely protecting himself. Amanda and this guy know that if one goes down so will the other.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Do you guys think Rudy Guede might tell what really happened that night once he is released and flees to another country? Not that anything he says would really be believable, but maybe.

:twocents: I do not think he will talk at all ... and if he does, it will not be the whole truth ...

I think he is going to get the hello out of Italy as soon as he can ...

 

[Linda7NJ]

All interesting points. I wouldn't put it past them to hire Rudy for murder. I'm going to take a look at the DNA evidence once again.

Please read this article about why Rudy could not have possibly acted alone. The reasons are compelling.

http://www.truejustice.org/ee/index.php?/tjmk/C339/

Flipping AMAZING link and the power point presentation is fabulous! Thank you so much!

http://truejustice.org/perugia/powerpoints/Kermit14WithJamesRaperOnEvidence.pps


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[aa9511]

:twocents: I do not think he will talk at all ... and if he does, it will not be the whole truth ...

I think he is going to get the hello out of Italy as soon as he can ...

I have a feeling he will say something for money....maybe an interview or something to cash in...disgusting. We know he is gonna be in desperate need of money.
The only way I would believe what he says is IF what he says matches up with the evidence and all the circumstances. I know he will downplay his involvement regardless, but if he says something about Amanda and Raf. which matches the evidence, I would believe those parts.
I still can't believe he might be getting out soon...that is just a travesty b/c they are letting a loose cannon out into the world, putting others in danger whereever he goes. Lord knows I would not want to live anywhere near that guy. Some people who might never have heard about this case, they will not even know he brutally murdered someone!

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Wow, he was actually honest for a change. In another interview, I think maybe the Katie Couric one I posted above, she asked him that and he said something like "no, I don't regret it because it's not her fault what happened."

Respectfully Snipped:

BBM: Yes, finally ... it was "something" so better than "nothing" ...

But I truly believe that Raf is going to "crack" : he is NOT going to go down alone this time, that is without Amanda going down with him ... Honor Bound will be thrown "out the window" !

:twocents:

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Flipping AMAZING link and the power point presentation is fabulous! Thank you so much!

http://truejustice.org/perugia/powerpoints/Kermit14WithJamesRaperOnEvidence.pps


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:seeya: Hi Linda7NJ,

I agree ... the info at TJMK is outstanding !

 

[rose222]

I wish more of the JA trial folk would join us here. You know we'll have this verdict before that one with the way things are going in that case!

 

[josie1986]

I wish more of the JA trial folk would join us here. You know we'll have this verdict before that one with the way things are going in that case!

I'm here but I'm just reading quietly as I don't know that much about this case and I Dont really have time to do a lot is reading up.

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[otto]

The problem is that people's personal biases create a narrative compilation of someone's personality -- someone none of us have ever met. Half-truths, rumors, and misquotes form the basis for opinions.

Just go with the direct crime scene--MK's bedroom. You have enough there to work with to determine who was in that room. Leave all the other nonsense out because a. We don't know AK and likely never will and b. what someone thinks is not evidence. Go with evidence in MK's room.

Why would it be a good idea to omit all evidence outside of Meredith's bedroom? The crime scene is the entire flat, as there is evidence related to the murder in both bathrooms, in the hallway, in other bedrooms, in the living area and so on.

 

[Mollyandme]

following up on this case and going to start reading this thread from the beginning so i can post with everyone. not really sure what my opinion is on all of this yet

 

[redheadedgal]

I actually suggested it does not have to be a sign of a female killer but a sign of somebody close to the victim. Between RG and AK, Knox was much closer to the victim. RG and MK knew each other (just like RG and AK knew each other) but there is no sign that RG spread out the blanket even though he had blood on his shoes. The covering of the body was actually used by judge Massei as a mitigating factor. He considered it a sign of remorse.

and NG also stated an aquaintance would do the same thing (you missed that too?)... were RG and MK not aquaintances? they weren't friends but they weren't strangers either. so NG's thoughts about shouding the body do apply with RG in mind.

oh, and by your argument above, where is the sign that knox covered the body with the blanket?

I didn't see any DNA on the video

well then, if there's no dna in the video, then there's no dna on the clasp.

judge, i move to render exhibit "clasp" inadmissible due to lack of evidentiary value.

so moved.

 

[aa9511]

I'm here but I'm just reading quietly as I don't know that much about this case and I Dont really have time to do a lot is reading up.

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Hi Josie!! And there is A LOT of reading. I can't even begin to make a dent in it. LOL. I guess it would be like if we hadn't watched CMJA's trial and we had to go through everything from the start!

 

[aa9511]

I was just thinking about that Katie Couric interview with RS from a while back....I posted the clip a couple pages back...where I said I thought it was VERY ODD what he said about Rudy G's sentence! I just cannot get over that! I don't know if I lost something in translation?? But I'm pretty sure he meant that he think Rudy G's sentence is too long....b/c he said enjailment for many years doesn't reduce the pain of what happened....or something like that. (By the way, my new favorite word = Enjailment, in Italish).

So...what he's saying is Rudy's sentence is too long....the pain (death) has already happened, enjailment isn't going to bring Meredith back or reduce the family's pain.

I do not for the life of me understand why he would think Rudy's sentence is too long. That either means a) he thinks Rudy somehow got sucked into this whole mess and Rudy did not mean it deep down in his heart or b) he thinks Meredith kind of deserved what she got. Those are the only conclusions I can draw from that.

Yes, this is NOT EVIDENCE for all the believers of their innocence, but it is something for the rest of us who are not in the jury and have the ability to observe their actions and words. If someone, a stranger (which he was to RS), viciously and brutally stabbed someone to death (not to forget rape them as well), why would you think either a) the perp is a good person or b) the victim deserved it. Does that make any sense??

The only reason it makes sense to me is.....RS knows he is as guilty (or more guilty) as Rudy is, however his conviction was overturned and he is no longer in jail (for now), meanwhile Rudy is still "suffering" in prison. And he probably thinks he won't be going back. Thus the sentence "I have a different idea of what enjailment is" and "more years of enjailment won't relieve the (family's) loss."

 

[sherlockh]

and NG also stated an aquaintance would do the same thing (you missed that too?)... were RG and MK not aquaintances? they weren't friends but they weren't strangers either. so NG's thoughts about shouding the body do apply with RG in mind.

oh, and by your argument above, where is the sign that knox covered the body with the blanket?

well then, if there's no dna in the video, then there's no dna on the clasp.

judge, i move to render exhibit "clasp" inadmissible due to lack of evidentiary value.

so moved.

The problem is Guede had blood on his shoe. Shoe prints are missing. Did he wipe some of his prints out and ran off? Why? The whole theory that it was Guede that spread the blanket, hopped to the bathroom to take off his shoe and socks to wash his foot, and locked Meredith's bedroom door doesn't make any sense because we can see where he went. He didn't do any of those things. He went straight out the front door. If it wasn't Guede then it must be one of the other 2, or both.

It is not my theory that the video is supposed to show DNA contamination. There is no source of DNA for that bra clasp to be contaminated. That is just one of the problems. DNA contamination is not so easy. Especially not tertiary. The easier explanation is that the owner of the DNA left the trace himself. And then there is the kitchen knife (that fits the large wound), DNA/blood mixtures in the bathroom and in Filomena's bedroom, the staged break-in, the Luminol footprints. To believe that they are innocent all these must have been contamination's or amazing coincidences. Impossible. JMO.

 

[redheadedgal]

Katie Couric interviews Raffaele Sollecito - YouTube

Omg, I just saw this clip of RS on Katie Couric.....can someone please go to 14 minutes and translate his English for me......is he saying that he thinks Rudy Guede's sentence was TOO LONG???!

Katie asked him, so do you think justice was served (talking about Rudy G)? He says, well I have different idea about the enjailment in general. Then she says, oh so you think it wasn't long enough of a sentence? He says, I don't want to judge, from what I experienced, the enjailment has no reason at all, it's not the amount of years spent in prison that can relieve a kind of pain like that? WTH?????

Omg, I think I understood him right. What a monster!

actually, you completely misunderstood him.

kc: and he is now serving 16 years in prison for the crime and you believe justice has been served?
rs: well, uh, i have other ideas about the enjailment in general
kc: you think his sentence should've been longer?
rs: i don't want to judge... for what i experienced, for me, the enjailment has no reason at all. so it's not the number of years you spend in prison that can relieve pain like that.

he's talking about HIS enjailment... it has no reason at all... b/c he's innocent.

it's sad how the facts get so minsinterpreted in this case. another example was someone posting that AK's footprint in blood was found in the hallway. no, it was not.

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http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/footprints-01.html

 

[sherlockh]

None of the bare footprints detected with luminol tested positive for Meredith's DNA.

http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/footprints-01.html

This quote just shows how much misinformation is spread by that website. Why is it necessary to make up stuff if they are really innocent?

If you get the information from the actual case files then we see this:

The three footprints in Knox's room yielded Knox's genetic profile and one of the footprints in the hallway contained both Amanda and Meredith's DNA.

http://themurderofmeredithkercher.com/Luminol_Traces

 

[redheadedgal]

http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/footprints-01.html

This quote just shows how much misinformation is spread by that website. Why is it necessary to make up stuff if they are really innocent?

If you get the information from the actual case files then we see this:

http://themurderofmeredithkercher.com/Luminol_Traces

oh good grief!

of course AK's dna was found in her bedroom. and in the hallway. and all over the apartment. oh, except for in MK's bedoom.

the dna refered to in the previous post was blood. you know? the thing luminol is supposed to indicate.

this is getting ridiculous. and old.

 

[sherlockh]

oh good grief!

of course AK's dna was found in her bedroom. and in the hallway. and all over the apartment. oh, except for in MK's bedoom.

the dna refered to in the previous post was blood. you know? the thing luminol is supposed to indicate.

this is getting ridiculous. and old.

No, the source claimed Meredith's DNA was not in the Luminol footprints. It was. The Luminol footprints are considered to have been made in blood because there are no alternatives for anything else that reacts to Luminol like blood does. The DNA only confirms this. We had this discussion many times.

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http://themurderofmeredithkercher.com/Luminol_Traces