Amanda Knox tried for the murder of Meredith Kercher in Italy *NEW TRIAL*#6

[Sigh Sister]

There must have been a tip or a lead that caused police to investigate a satanic cult theory in the Peterson case. The same could be said of the Monster of Florence case. The case is still unsolved, so every lead, no matter how unlikely, would have been explored. Preston is fixated on the damaging the reputation of the prosecutor.

In the Monster of Florence, the tip came from a psychic who claimed she got the information from a dead priest. She gave the tip to a policeman investigating case, and he and Mignini then engaged in what can only be described as folie a deux. I believe that someone who was rational would not pursue this lead at all.

 

[geevee]

There is no evidence that Guede was in the bathroom, so the theory stands alone, completely unsupported by evidence.

My memory may be faulty but I thought there was testimony in his trial that he cleaned his pant leg in the bathroom because of blood on it, is that incorrect?

 

[SMK]

In the Monster of Florence, the tip came from a psychic who claimed she got the information from a dead priest. She gave the tip to a policeman investigating case, and he and Mignini then engaged in what can only be described as folie a deux. I believe that someone who was rational would not pursue this lead at all.

Yes, logically, it makes no sense. But Mignini is an old-world Catholic, very classical-thinking, so it is sort of fitting. Maybe he wanted to go the Jungian route.

 

[Yellow]

just replied above

Yeah, that murderofmeredithkercher site is deceiving, I am surprised Wikipedia lets it stay up since alot of people may think it is Wikipedia, and thus subject to revision by both sides, making it objective

Sometimes it even uses as cites links to pro guilt websites. Many things are sourced but I think one needs to go to the original document to see what exactly is up. You cannot trust the spin they put on it. I do not speak Italian so I am not sure if translations on both sides are truly objective, in many cases even subtle changes in languages can affect meaning.

 

[otto]

In the Monster of Florence, the tip came from a psychic who claimed she got the information from a dead priest. She gave the tip to a policeman investigating case, and he and Mignini then engaged in what can only be described as folie a deux. I believe that someone who was rational would not pursue this lead at all.

Thank goodness the prosecutor's office was prepared to follow up every lead.

If they were fools for following up every lead, the Modesto police are equal fools for following up every lead - yet Preston has not written a book about the Modesto police. Perhaps someone should make that suggestion to Preston.

 

[otto]

My memory may be faulty but I thought there was testimony in his trial that he cleaned his pant leg in the bathroom because of blood on it, is that incorrect?

The first I heard of Guede washing his clothes in the small bathroom was here a couple of weeks ago. The reference that was provided was another forum. Perhaps it was the traffic accident re-constructionist that came up with the idea.

 

[otto]

Yes, logically, it makes no sense. But Mignini is an old-world Catholic, very classical-thinking, so it is sort of fitting. Maybe he wanted to go the Jungian route.

Perhaps the Modesto police are also Roman Catholic and that is why they too investigated the possible involvement of a satanic cult in the disappearance of Laci Peterson ... or perhaps they were following up every lead, regardless of how far-fetched it appeared.

 

[TorisMom003]

Was the sink faucet dusted for fingerprints? If not, why not? There is clearly blood on it so someone had to touch Meredith, get her blood on their hands and then touch the faucet. Is this another example of shoddy police work?

 

[DerKritiker2011]

There's a partial bloody footprint that the courts have attributed to Sollecito in the small bathroom.

I don't think so. The gap at the toe is missing.

 

[Myvice]

It seems much more reasonable for him to remove shoes and socks to wash his spattered pants than to soak his shoed/socked feet and leave the cottage to walk around in sopping wet socks and shoes.

Does it make sense to wash the blood off your pants and leave the blood on your shoes?

If, like some are saying, Guede was interrupted in an attempted burglary by Merideth and ended up having to kill her you would think that would make him skittish and he would want to get out of there before someone else came home.

Guede has no history of violence so I can't understand him being so comfortable as to waste a lot of time. The only one he knew from the house that was alive was Amanda so he had no idea when others would be returning.

 

[Sigh Sister]

Thank goodness the prosecutor's office was prepared to follow up every lead.

If they were fools for following up every lead, the Modesto police are equal fools for following up every lead - yet Preston has not written a book about the Modesto police. Perhaps someone should make that suggestion to Preston.

What do the Modesto police have to do with this case? What Magnini and the lead cop did was way beyond following up on a lead..........

 

[geevee]

There's no dispute regarding the footprint. All legal arguments were debated during trial, and the conclusion of the jury was that the bloody foot print on the bath mat is consistent with Sollecito's foot. There is no uncertainty, although people unrelated to the investigation continue to modify the shape of the print by making it longer and narrower, and then suggesting that it is consistent with Guede.

I solely looked at the prosecutions foot measurement chart and disagreed with the big toe being made by either man or AK, the measurement simply does not fit, hammer toe or not.

But, I have issues with a foot print on nappy fabric being measured at any rate, the top (blood) will dry and become stiff, but the fibers joined at the latex or rubber backing (since no blood seeped through to the bottom) will still be softer and pliable, making any measurement less than accurate.

And that's ignoring the fact they have no way of knowing if the entire sole of the foot that left the print was completely covered with blood (and likely was not since there was a partial foot print on the mat and none where the heel of the foot would have been on the floor).

Did they clean that part up (heel print on floor) but just left the mat with the half-print on it? Why? Seems like just more reaching to explain a scenario that needs contant manipulation to arrive at the '3 people had to have killed her' theory.

 

[Myvice]

Guede's footprints from his shoes led out of the bedroom to the front door. If he took his shoes off to wash his feet and put them back on his prints going out would be from the bathroom instead of the bedroom.

If he walked barefoot to the bedroom to put them back on they would have shown up in the luminol. MOO

 

[TorisMom003]

Does it make sense to wash the blood off your pants and leave the blood on your shoes?

If, like some are saying, Guede was interrupted in an attempted burglary by Merideth and ended up having to kill her you would think that would make him skittish and he would want to get out of there before someone else came home.

Guede has no history of violence so I can't understand him being so comfortable as to waste a lot of time. The only one he knew from the house that was alive was Amanda so he had no idea when others would be returning.

Amanda and RS have no history of being violent either yet the claim is that they staged this huge cleanup after they helped kill Meredith. Did Amanda know when Filomina was to return home? Also why would Amanda and RS wait until the next day to do any cleaning up instead of doing so after the murder?

Another thought that I had......RG knew the guys that lived downstairs. RG knew that they grew pot. If RG was looking for money to buy drugs, broke into the girls cottage, had Meredith's keys, did he also use them to go downstairs and take some of the pot that Meredith was supposed to water for the boys while they were away?

 

[Sigh Sister]

I don't think so. The gap at the toe is missing.

Welcome to Websleuths! :seeya:

 

[otto]

I don't think so. The gap at the toe is missing.

I suppose the defense failed if they were unable to present that evidence during trial.

 

[redheadedgal]

I see how that works. Mignini is guilty of corruption in the Knox trial because of a conviction in another trial.

i think it's naive to believe someone convicted of certain crimes would all of a sudden straighten up and fly right.

He was trying to solve a serial murder case. Is the complaint related to Spezi and Preston? If so, the complaint is retaliatory because the prosecutor didn't appreciate their interference in the investigation.

Here's a news flash: there is probably not a single prosecutor that has practiced for any length of time that has not had a complaint made against them. It's part of the job to have disgruntled criminals objecting to how prosecutors do their job.

the charges were not only related to reporters... posters familiar with this case should know this:

http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/Mignini.html

Have y'all read monster of florence? great book. I really enjoyed it!

not yet!

This is from the Meredith Kercher site discussing Hampikian; http://www.truejustice.org/ee/index...two_positions_of_trust_in_serially_misrepres/

of course that site wants to try to discredit GH (and anyone else with an opinion of innocence)... it seems to be working.

 

[otto]

What do the Modesto police have to do with this case? What Magnini and the lead cop did was way beyond following up on a lead..........

The Modesto police and Douglas Preston's book have nothing to do with this case, however it has been suggested by Preston that the Perugia prosecutor's office is full of crazy people because they followed every lead in the Monster of Florence case, including satanic cult theories. By that reasoning, the Modesto prosecutor's office is also full of crazy people because they too pursued a satanic cult theory roughly 10 years ago.

 

[Myvice]

Amanda and RS have no history of being violent either yet the claim is that they staged this huge cleanup after they helped kill Meredith. Did Amanda know when Filomina was to return home? Also why would Amanda and RS wait until the next day to do any cleaning up instead of doing so after the murder?

Another thought that I had......RG knew the guys that lived downstairs. RG knew that they grew pot. If RG was looking for money to buy drugs, broke into the girls cottage, had Meredith's keys, did he also use them to go downstairs and take some of the pot that Meredith was supposed to water for the boys while they were away?

Has it been stated that they waited until the next day?

Why would it be so much harder for Amanda and Raff to do this than Guede?

None of them had a history of violence.

The only place they had to get rid of DNA was in Merideth's room. Any of Amanda's DNA is being swept away because she lived there.

Why would Guede need the keys to steal the pot? Why not just break the window in the door like the police did?

 

[redheadedgal]

I've seen several posts in other message boards stating that the charges were re-filed and the trial is to start January 15, 2014 in Turin. I can't find a link anywhere to back this up! IDK...

I thought I had read this, too, that he would begin trial right after Knox verdict. I thought it was on IIP, but then could not find it.

i thought a link was provided here in a recent thread...

Can you cite a case in the US where luminol evidence was discredited with a similar argument? If luminol evidence is such a problem, surely there are many cases where this has already been argued.

Essentially, there are no cases in the US where luminol has been completely discredited with the same arguments that are used to discredit luminol in this case?

I am asking for any criminal trial where these same arguments have been successfully used.

Brenk vs. State, 1993, Arkansas:

The Brenk case confronted the issue of whether evidence of luminol testing should be allowed in light of the fact that luminol does not distinguish between certain metals, vegetable matter, human blood, or animal blood. This Court held that evidence about the use of luminol would not be admissible unless additional tests showed that the substance tested was human blood related to the alleged crime.

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ar-supreme-court/1130394.html