Amanda Knox tried for the murder of Meredith Kercher in Italy *NEW TRIAL*#9

[Amber29]

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<modsnip> Compare the testimony of this particular mysterious witness with the rest of the virginal islanders' stories.

Not all of us discount the British girls testimony.

Can we refrain from referring to them as "British virgins" and "virginal islanders", comes across as a sort of unnecessary name calling IMO.

They are after all only witnesses in the case.

 

[MichaelSmith]

Oh yes the lack of evidence theory, there is a lack of evidence of RG in Filomenas room and the small bathroom as well. Doesn't mean as a lone wolf that he wasn't in there.

The lack of evidence of Guede in Filomenas room is because they never tested the room to find any evidence of him in there.

 

[Katody]

Not all of us discount the British girls testimony.

Can we refrain from referring to them as "British virgins" and "virginal islanders", comes across as a sort of unnecessary name calling IMO.

They are after all only witnesses in the case.

Sorry, but I find <modsnip> very fitting. After all they were scared to death and scandalized by the condoms and vibrator.

I don't discount their testimony. Not at the slightest. What I'm hinting at, is that if you're about to lie under oath, it's crucial to really well coordinate your testimony with others. That's what was missing in the testimony of our lovely little witness that Otto refuses to name. And that's what caused it to be discounted as a "mistake" by the prosecution.


JMO

 

[Monzoo]

If Meredith's family did not attend the memorial, why is it reported that they laid a rose next to the candles?

Memorial held in Perugia on Monday, November 5 (Knox and Sollecito had not yet been arrested).

"Miss Kercher's family - father John, mother Arline and sister Stephanie - yesterday arrived in Perugia. They laid a note and a rose next to an array of candles outside the cathedral. The note said: 'Love you forever Meredith, all my love Dad .'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-491608/Foxy-Knoxy-I-heard-Meredith-scream--covered-ears.html

I had stated that Meredith's family and friends attended Meredith's memorial. It was suggested that I was lying. Now that I have provided a link regarding what Meredith's family did at Meredith's memorial, perhaps we could have a link stating that Meredith's family and friends did not attend the memorial ... as that unreferenced claim has been stated several times.

They may have lain roses,but they did not arrive in Perugia until Tuesday the sixth.
From CBS:

Members of Kercher's family arrived earlier Tuesday in Perugia and were being hosted at the city's expense at a central hotel, awaiting word from prosecutors on when they can take her remains home, Occhiuto said in a phone interview.

I should also note that the article you were quoting was published November 8. The day before is obviously not the fifth.

 

[otto]

What has Mignini been convicted of? I thought he won his appeal?

That is not at all what I am implying.

He did. I posted the link last time it was discussed. The case has to be refiled and the last I heard, it had not been.

 

[otto]

They may have lain roses,but they did not arrive in Perugia until Tuesday the sixth.
From CBS:



I should also note that the article you were quoting was published November 8. The day before is obviously not the fifth.

The memorial was on Monday, November 5.
Meredith's family attended the memorial and placed a rose and a note.

Is that not good enough?
What is good enough?

 

[MichaelSmith]

What has Mignini been convicted of? I thought he won his appeal?

That is not at all what I am implying.

He was a convicted criminal when he prosecuted the appeal. It's extraordinary he was allowed to keep his job and entitles everyone to question his integrity and anything he's ever said about this case.

He didn't win his appeal, he got off on a jurisdiction technicality and now goes on trial again in a few weeks.

Doug Longhini's crimesider series covers what he was convicted of.

http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/crimesider.html

http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/Mignini.html

What were the charges Giuliano Mignini was convicted for?

The charges against Giuliano Mignini are threefold and involve more than just illegal wiretapping. The court convicted Mignini for the following:

1.) Illegally investigating journalists who had criticized him with the "intent to harass or deter them from pursuing their legitimate profession". Specifically the court found that Mignini had targeted Italian journalists Vincenzo Tessandori, Gennaro De Stefano, and Roberto Fiasconaro, because they had criticized his investigations into the death of Narducci.

2.) Ordering an illegal investigation of the Florentine ex police chief Giuseppe De Donno.

3.) Ordering illegal investigations of two officials of the Viminale, the Ministry of the Interior in Rome, including an illegal investigation of the Roberto Sgalla, ex-director of the office of external affairs.

 

[otto]

The lack of evidence of Guede in Filomenas room is because they never tested the room to find any evidence of him in there.

Investigators did not look for evidence in Filomina's bedroom, or they did, but they were careful to avoid any DNA that belonged to Guede?

 

[Myvice]

They may have lain roses,but they did not arrive in Perugia until Tuesday the sixth.
From CBS:



I should also note that the article you were quoting was published November 8. The day before is obviously not the fifth.

It was updated on the 8th. You need to read to the bottom.

 

[otto]

He was a convicted criminal when he prosecuted the appeal. It's extraordinary he was allowed to keep his job and entitles everyone to question his integrity and anything he's ever said about this case.

He didn't win his appeal, he got off on a jurisdiction technicality and now goes on trial again in a few weeks.

Doug Longhini's crimesider series covers what he was convicted of.

http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/crimesider.html

http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/Mignini.html

What were the charges Giuliano Mignini was convicted for?

The charges against Giuliano Mignini are threefold and involve more than just illegal wiretapping. The court convicted Mignini for the following:

1.) Illegally investigating journalists who had criticized him with the "intent to harass or deter them from pursuing their legitimate profession". Specifically the court found that Mignini had targeted Italian journalists Vincenzo Tessandori, Gennaro De Stefano, and Roberto Fiasconaro, because they had criticized his investigations into the death of Narducci.

2.) Ordering an illegal investigation of the Florentine ex police chief Giuseppe De Donno.

3.) Ordering illegal investigations of two officials of the Viminale, the Ministry of the Interior in Rome, including an illegal investigation of the Roberto Sgalla, ex-director of the office of external affairs.

Could you please provide an independent media link so I can review the information?

 

[Sigh Sister]

If Meredith's family did not attend the memorial, why is it reported that they laid a rose next to the candles?

Memorial held in Perugia on Monday, November 5 (Knox and Sollecito had not yet been arrested).

"Miss Kercher's family - father John, mother Arline and sister Stephanie - yesterday arrived in Perugia. They laid a note and a rose next to an array of candles outside the cathedral. The note said: 'Love you forever Meredith, all my love Dad .'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-491608/Foxy-Knoxy-I-heard-Meredith-scream--covered-ears.html

I had stated that Meredith's family and friends attended Meredith's memorial. It was suggested that I was lying. Now that I have provided a link regarding what Meredith's family did at Meredith's memorial, perhaps we could have a link stating that Meredith's family and friends did not attend the memorial ... as that unreferenced claim has been stated several times.

I'm confused. The memorial was the 5th. This article was written the 8th and says that the Kercher's arrived "yesterday" which would have been the 7th.

 

[Amber29]

The lack of evidence of Guede in Filomenas room is because they never tested the room to find any evidence of him in there.

Can you please back this up?

I was under the impression that there were samples taken from the window sill?

 

[MichaelSmith]

Investigators did not look for evidence in Filomina's bedroom, or they did, but they were careful to avoid any DNA that belonged to Guede?

By my count they only did 5 tests in the whole room yet 16&18 on Raffaele's shoes and car. Strange huh? They just had no interest in it.

You can see all the results and what exactly was tested in the doc attached.

 

[Myvice]

I'm confused. The memorial was the 5th. This article was written the 8th and says that the Kercher's arrived "yesterday" which would have been the 7th.

I'm beginning to understand why some people are having such a hard time with this case.

 

[otto]

I'm confused. The memorial was the 5th. This article was written the 8th and says that the Kercher's arrived "yesterday" which would have been the 7th.

Please tell me how the family can lay a rose next to the candles at the memorial if they were not at the memorial.

 

[TorisMom003]

Could you please provide an independent media link so I can review the information?

But on Monday, an Italian appelate court decided that Mignini's case was heard by the wrong panel. The previous ruling against Mignini was discharged, with the court saying the case should have instead been heard by a panel in Turin.

http://www.king5.com/news/cities/seattle/Amanda-Knox-prosecutor-wins-his-own-appeal-134346513.html

 

[otto]

Can you please back this up?

I was under the impression that there were samples taken from the window sill?

Of course there were. Mixed blood/DNA belonging to Knox/Meredith was found in Filomina's bedroom, so obviously investigators collected evidence in the bedroom.

 

[otto]

But on Monday, an Italian appelate court decided that Mignini's case was heard by the wrong panel. The previous ruling against Mignini was discharged, with the court saying the case should have instead been heard by a panel in Turin.

http://www.king5.com/news/cities/seattle/Amanda-Knox-prosecutor-wins-his-own-appeal-134346513.html

Any thoughts on why this is news in Seattle?

 

[TorisMom003]

Any thoughts on why this is news in Seattle?

I did not post it to have my thoughts about it listed. A link to a media source was requested to which I supplied one. I suppose though that since it came from a Seattle media source that it should be overlooked.

 

[Monzoo]

The memorial was on Monday, November 5.
Meredith's family attended the memorial and placed a rose and a note.

Is that not good enough?
What is good enough?

They can't attend a memorial on the fifth if they don't arrive until the sixth. I thought that was clear. How is your search for any evidence that ANYONE close to the case, that is the residents or the English girlfriends, attended the memorial? Any evidence of that at all? You were going to back up your statement that Meredith's family and friends all attended. I think I have shown that the family was not yet in town -- how about evidence of friends?

If you can't find backup, will you withdraw it as something to hold against Amanda Knox and Rafaelle Sollecito?