Amanda Knox tried for the murder of Meredith Kercher in Italy *NEW TRIAL*#9

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  • #381
Why? Because that is how people from the US like it?

I've never been to the US so I don't know what they like.
 
  • #382
I think he visited Amanda's blog and have seen the link to Kercher's Fund as a opportunity to attack.

Amanda's life is irreversibly connected with Meredith's Kercher murder and with Meredith Kercher. I don't think anyone, including the Kerchers has the right to demand Amanda to shut up about this.

I think the Kerchers would have had much better position to make such demands had they chose the most dignified IMO position of neutrality in this trial and not declaring Amanda's guilt before the decision of an independent court.

Uncalled for! They are the victims family here.
 
  • #383
Exactly! This was the only point IMO that Maresca was making hence the "it is a complete contradiction for the family."

He is not the liar here, he is the voice for the victim and her family.

So then is it lost in translation? It was reported here, and that report was taken and run with, that Amanda was receiving donations in Meredith's name as her own to make a memorial for Meredith that was not described or determined as of yet. If the lawyer stated the above and it is not true then that makes it a lie. That is the point that is being made that is being overlooked or dismissed.

One only asks that the truth is told because telling lies helps no one. It doesn't help Meredith, her family, Amanda, RS, the lawyers, the judges, no one.
 
  • #384
I think Maresca's performance in court today was weak.

His need to resort to lies and personal attacks just shows that he failed to make his case on the actual evidence. It will backfire IMO.
 
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  • #386
Exactly! This was the only point IMO that Maresca was making hence the "it is a complete contradiction for the family."

He is not the liar here, he is the voice for the victim and her family.

He's been caught out in a lie today, so he's not much of a voice. Meredith and her family deserve better IMO.
 
  • #387
So then is it lost in translation? It was reported here, and that report was taken and run with, that Amanda was receiving donations in Meredith's name as her own to make a memorial for Meredith that was not described or determined as of yet. If the lawyer stated the above and it is not true then that makes it a lie. That is the point that is being made that is being overlooked or dismissed.

One only asks that the truth is told because telling lies helps no one. It doesn't help Meredith, her family, Amanda, RS, the lawyers, the judges, no one.

Yes I can not find anything proving he actually said what is being reported.
 
  • #388

And he is wrong about that as well. Meredith has not been forgotten. One can support Amanda and RS without forgetting about Meredith. Two wrongful convictions does not help honor Meredith nor remember her. Finding the truth about her horrible death does.

MOO
 
  • #389
Uncalled for! They are the victims family here.

I don't deny it. And I fully understand why they did what they did.

Still it's my opinion that it would be much better to leave the decision about guilt to the criminal court and take the stance of accepting that decision and working from there.
 
  • #390
He's been caught out in a lie today, so he's not much of a voice. Meredith and her family deserve better IMO.

Please link the quote showing his exact words.
 
  • #391
And that kind of an appeal to emotion, done under the pretence of speaking for the victim, is why civil and criminal proceeding should be separate. The obvious potential for that to fatally compromise a defendants right to a fair trial should be, well.......obvious.
 
  • #392
It would be extremely difficult for Amanda to leave all things Meredith to Meredith's family. Amanda's life is forever entwined with Meredith. There is nothing now that can change that fact. Even if Amanda is found not guilty the two will always be connected. To suggest that Amanda leave all things Meredith to her family is to suggest that Amanda ignore the years since Meredith's murder and what all Amanda herself has had to endure. The same goes for RS.

MOO
But you can't deny, her linking to the fund opened up scrutiny from Maresca? If I were Amanda, I think I would have made one post remembering her, ( a picture and something brief, such as "In memory of Meredith Kercher") and then just left the rest to silence.

Whether Amanda is guilty or innocent, the Kerchers are convinced at this point that she killed their daughter. Even if they are in error, they simply can't be objective, and it is just too explosive and painful an area for Amanda to be treading on now - even with the best of intentions. :moo:
 
  • #393
Now this is getting ugly.

Please someone needs to provide a link to exactly what Maresca said in court.

We are going by a media report.

I despise being referred to as a "guilter" I always feel the need to defend myself from that term. It is a nasty term used to describe people who believe in guilt on sites we won't mention. I never see anyone refer to people who think she is innocent as "groupies"here like is done from those sites as well.

I do not hate amanda Knox as I have said many times, I simply view the evidence from the otherside.

I agree. It is an extremely nasty term that is derogatory and offensive, yet the terms if freely used in a derogatory manner to describe those that accept the decisions of the court. Strange, but true.

This is from the closing two minutes of the victim's lawyer verbal arguments. This is not the totality of what he presented.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nda-Knoxs-convicted-murder.html#ixzz2nffeRaMy

It is also clearly stated that the lawyer is for Meredith Kercher and none other.
 
  • #394
Please link the quote showing his exact words.

Francesco Maresca, in his closing arguments on behalf of the Kercher family in the third trial of Knox and co-defendant Raffaele Sollecito, urged the eight lay jurors on the panel of 10 to disregard publicity over the case as well as Knox's own statements, including her criticism of Italy's judicial system.

"She has become a well-known person. You know she signed contracts for millions of dollars for her book. She has someone who takes care of her public relations. She has a personal website where she invites people to collect donations in the memory of the victim, Meredith Kercher, which is an unbearable contradiction for the family," Maresca said.

He said the world's attention has focused on Knox, while "the victim has fallen into oblivion, to the immense pain of the Kercher family."

Knox is soliciting donations on her website for her defense as well as a separate, as yet-unspecified project in Kercher's memory.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/12/...wyer-seeks-knox-conviction.html#storylink=cpy
 
  • #395
Please link the quote showing his exact words.

Oh, so which is it then? You don't seem to believe Maresca said it, and otto seems to think he did say it and Amanda, sneaky witch that she is, quickly deleted it.

If he said it, he's a liar. If he didn't say it, the person who reported his words is a liar, (or maybe just very bad at Italian).
 
  • #396
That stopped no one in determining that Amanda was wrong in doing what was reported, even though it is now proven to be incorrect. Amanda is not requesting funds for a memorial of her choosing on her site.

It is very clear that whenever something that is against Amanda is reported it is believed without proof by some. When that is proven to be false then we should sit back and wait before we say that it appears to be a lie told in court against Amanda.

Couldn't it also be that Amanda has heard about this (for God's sake, she must be keeping up with her own trial), and has now deleted the portion about doing a project for/in Meredith's name?

It is her site, after all, she has control over it.
 
  • #397
I think he visited Amanda's blog and have seen the link to Kercher's Fund as a opportunity to attack.

Amanda's life is irreversibly connected with Meredith's Kercher murder and with Meredith Kercher. I don't think anyone, including the Kerchers has the right to demand Amanda to shut up about this.

I think the Kerchers would have had much better position to make such demands had they chose the most dignified IMO position of neutrality in this trial and not declaring Amanda's guilt before the decision of an independent court.

BBM

What demands? Could you please provide a link.
 
  • #398
Crediting a picture to show where the picture came from is something that is to be done. If it was not done there would be much uproar about that. By stating that the picture/s came from the Kercher family does not mean that they support Amanda. It simply means that the Kercher family own the photo.
 
  • #399
He's been caught out in a lie today, so he's not much of a voice. Meredith and her family deserve better IMO.

Could you please describe the reason why the lawyer for Meredith Kercher is a liar and provide a link.
 
  • #400
Couldn't it also be that Amanda has heard about this (for God's sake, she must be keeping up with her own trial), and has now deleted the portion about doing a project for/in Meredith's name?

It is her site, after all, she has control over it.

Yes, let's make more assumptions about Amanda and her character. After all it isn't as if she has had anything serious claimed about her that she has to constantly defend, like say murdering someone.

The point is that this was a claim made in court, a claim that was looked into and proven false. One can believe it if they wish or not. One can look for evidence themselves or not. I simply looked and saw that it was false.
 
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