Amanda Knox tried for the murder of Meredith Kercher in Italy *NEW TRIAL*#9

[Katody]

OK, granted. Score for the defense that he even read it.

( But I still maintain his reading was at too fast a clip, and too dead pan. I can't doubt my own senses. He didn't have to hold forth in some theatrical or operatic manner. But he didn't have to slaughter the words as he did. It reminds me of when I let my therapist read my innermost thoughts aloud from my journal. He mangled it so badly, I ripped the notebook from his hand....He told me he resented me forcing him to read it aloud. )

I think your interpretation is colored by bias

 

[SMK]

I think your interpretation is colored by bias

Are you telling me I am projecting onto Nincini? god forbid lease:

 

[Katody]

Are you telling me I am projecting onto Nincini? god forbid lease:

We've heard him read aloud two sentences out of the 5 pages that were read in court.

Not much to make an objective assessment

 

[otto]

in the comment section of her blog, under that post, amanda (13:15 pm) explains in more detail her words/decision re: maresca's request...

another comment mentions there still is no headstone for meredith... is this true? if yes, is it normal in the UK to wait 6 years to do this?


and otto, were you able to establish if the knife overlay was accurate? if not, please post your findings when you can... thanks.

I still haven't been able to find a photo of the sheet with the knife imprint.
Nevermind ... just found it.
Let me see what I can do.

 

[SMK]

We've heard him read aloud two sentences out of the 5 pages that were read in court.

Not much to make an objective assessment

Well, I showed it to someone who assessed it as I did. :snooty:

I guess it is in the ear of the beholder. I feel he might have slowed down, put a touch of inflection on the ultima.

As in,
"I am innocent. (pause)
I did not steal (pause) :guitar:
I did not rape (pause)
I did not kill " :guitar:
(slight inflection of emotive tone on the ultima). :boohoo:

The way he read it, was more like iminnocentididnotstealididnot rapeididnotkill:waiting:

 

[Katody]

Well, I showed it to someone who assessed it as I did. :snooty:

A real objective poll Now that's powerful argument

I guess it is in the ear of the beholder. I feel he might have slowed down, put a touch of inflection on the ultima.

I guess the acting lessons budget for Italian judiciary is depleted for some years after Mignini had spent all the money on his cartoon.

 

[SMK]

A real objective poll Now that's powerful argument




I guess the acting lessons budget for Italian judiciary is depleted for some years after Mignini had spent all the money on his cartoon.

okie, maybe so :slap:

 

[otto]

The lines represent 5 cm lengths.



Knife Ref: http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/TheKnife.html

Sheet Ref: http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/PhotoGallery4.html

 

[SMK]

The lines represent 5 cm lengths.



Knife Ref: http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/TheKnife.html

Sheet Ref: http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/PhotoGallery4.html

So that image is an overlay to match this imprint on the sheet: (see thumbnail image) :

 

[otto]

So that image is an overlay to match this imprint on the sheet: (see thumbnail image) :

Yes. I scaled the knife so that the 5 cm ruler length was equal to the 5 cm ruler length on the sheet. Then I rotated the knife to what appeared to be the stain on the sheet. It looks to me like it's a close match.

Each of the lines is 5 cm, so the two blue and one green lines together are 15 cm. The knife blade is 17.5 cm in length.

 

[otto]

Here it is with the blue and green 5 cm measurements removed, and I moved the knife down ever so slightly.

 

[Katody]

Yes. I scaled the knife so that the 5 cm ruler length was equal to the 5 cm ruler length on the sheet. Then I rotated the knife to what appeared to be the stain on the sheet. It looks to me like it's a close match.

Each of the lines is 5 cm, so the two blue and one green lines together are 15 cm. The knife blade is 17.5 cm in length.

It looks to me like you've scaled the knife a bit too much. Going by the O marker's scale the blade is only 16,5 cm long. Of course the blade is still much too long to make the imprint.

The shape is different, the bloody imprint looks more like a double bladed switch knife.

The trace O is visibly 2 imprints overlaid, the knife was moved.



Comparing the "J" trace which is another print of the same blade would be instructive.

 

[SMK]

Yes. I scaled the knife so that the 5 cm ruler length was equal to the 5 cm ruler length on the sheet. Then I rotated the knife to what appeared to be the stain on the sheet. It looks to me like it's a close match.

Each of the lines is 5 cm, so the two blue and one green lines together are 15 cm. The knife blade is 17.5 cm in length.

Yes, it seems to match. thanks for that.

 

[SMK]

It looks to me like you've scaled the knife a bit too much. Going by the O marker's scale the blade is only 16,5 cm long. Of course the blade is still much too long to make the imprint.

The shape is different, the bloody imprint looks more like a double bladed switch knife.

The trace O is visibly 2 imprints overlaid, the knife was moved.



Comparing the "J" trace which is another print of the same blade would be instructive.

you obviously have some technical knowledge which I don't. It seemed a match to me :doh:

 

[otto]

It looks to me like you've scaled the knife a bit too much. Going by the O marker's scale the blade is only 16,5 cm long. Of course the blade is still much too long to make the imprint.

The shape is different, the bloody imprint looks more like a double bladed switch knife.

The trace O is visibly 2 imprints overlaid, the knife was moved.



Comparing the "J" trace which is another print of the same blade would be instructive.

Each of the colored lines is exactly the same length. The two red lines are the 5 cm length for the sheet and the knife - to ensure that they are scaled such that 5 cm on the sheet ruler is also 5 cm on the knife ruler.

 

[Katody]

Each of the colored lines is exactly the same length. The two red lines are the 5 cm length for the sheet and the knife - to ensure that they are scaled such that 5 cm on the sheet ruler is also 5 cm on the knife ruler.

With a PS ruler tool I get 127 px on the O marker and only 122 px on the overlaid knife ruler.

Try to match the line to the actual 5 cm length of the O marker. As for now it doesn't go all the way to the edge.

Anyway it looks like the real blade was about half the length and thinner.

 

[Katody]

you obviously have some technical knowledge which I don't. It seemed a match to me :doh:

The huge blood spot that comes out of nowhere in the middle of the blade in Otto's photomontage is in fact already on the handle of the much shorter actual knife.

 

[otto]

With a PS ruler tool I get 127 px on the O marker and only 122 px on the overlaid knife ruler.

Try to match the line to the actual 5 cm length of the O marker. As for now it doesn't go all the way to the edge.

Anyway it looks like the real blade was about half the length and thinner.

Then you also know that 5 pixels is completely insignificant.

But, why don't you overlay the same photos and show us what you come up with.
The colored lines were created by copying one four times.

Also, photoshop rulers are only as accurate as the person using them in terms of setting start and end points.

 

[otto]

The huge blood spot that comes out of nowhere in the middle of the blade in Otto's photomontage is in fact already on the handle of the much shorter actual knife.

Let's be clear. The blood on the sheet is the blood on the sheet. I did not mess with the photo other than to boost the red saturation so I could see the blood more easily.

 

[Katody]

Let's be clear. The blood on the sheet is the blood on the sheet. I did not mess with the photo other than to boost the red saturation so I could see the blood more easily.

I'm not saying you painted it there. I have the original image.

I'm saying it is discernible that the handle of the real knife starts there.

It's also discernible in the hi-res photo that the knife had been shifted and rotated a few times in it's place. There are at least 2 imprints of the blade and the point of the knife, shifted and slightly rotated.

Anyway, even for the layman the kitchen knife is visibly much too long. Thanks for demonstrating it.