American made 737-800 disintegrated upon crashing Russia -62 dead

[CARIIS]

After watching the nuclear bomb I thought 737-800 is not a long haul aircraft. How much fuel could be aboard!

Maximum Range 3,115 nautical miles For comparasion

A380 is 9755

Typical cruising air speed for long-distance commercial passenger flights is 475–500 knots (878–926 km/h; 546–575 mph).

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=a380+rangeFor curiosity I did 546 by 3100 and got around 5.7 Been airborne for around 6 . Headwinds and stuff tailwinds

So, how much fuel could be in her belly???


A nuclear bomb worth ??????

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Average+speed+of+airlane+in+cruise+

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/737ng/

 

[CARIIS]

Your all safe, I am gonna eat my Lunesta soon -so I should vanish shortly !!!!!!!!!!

Very, obviously, manicky today!!

Hope I did not drive you folks nuts!!!

 

[CARIIS]

Now if that was 25 years ago.... good grief. There's so much more modernisation and cgi
And cctv cameras with the megapixels today. are quite good in light as in darkness.

So who's kidding who?

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Indeed, on the new second video on the second view I cracked up ! There is, IMO, no way on earth a plane with almost empty fuel tanks can do that.

Here is the DC-10 (3x as big as this one !) actual crash

[video=youtube;dCTrs9mKmhc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCTrs9mKmhc[/video]

Her range
4,350 mi

 

[CARIIS]

So who's kidding who? Part two !!!

MD-11 3x as big


[video=youtube;by4w6sapQ90]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by4w6sapQ90[/video]

Her range
7872

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Md+11+range+

 

[CARIIS]

So who's kidding who? Part 3!!

 

[Hatfield]

I had to laugh at the picture of the guys looking at the black box.

That would be what I would expect. About 5 people staring at it wondering
"Now what the heck do we do with it"

https://twitter.com/hashtag/FlyDubai?src=hash

 

[Hatfield]

Looking at the crash video I see a couple very interesting things.

1-There appears to be flames on the plane before it even gets near the ground. That plane looks like it is already on fire from either an explosion or engine fire before it even hits the ground.

2-It is coming down about a 75 Degree angle . Very steep angle.
It basically is nose diving to the ground.


This does not look like a stall to me. It looks like something caused a fire on the plane and then plane took a nose dive to ground. The only thing I can think of is either explosion on board or fire in engine.

I don't see how they can rule out terrorism. I am leaning towards a bomb right now because a simple engine fire would not make the plane go in such a steep angle would it?

https://twitter.com/hashtag/FlyDubai?src=hash

 

[CARIIS]

Looking at the crash video I see a couple very interesting things.

1-There appears to be flames on the plane before it even gets near the ground. That plane looks like it is already on fire from either an explosion or engine fire before it even hits the ground.

2-It is coming down about a 75 Degree angle . Very steep angle.
It basically is nose diving to the ground.


This does not look like a stall to me. It looks like something caused a fire on the plane and then plane took a nose dive to ground. The only thing I can think of is either explosion on board or fire in engine.

I don't see how they can rule out terrorism. I am leaning towards a bomb right now because a simple engine fire would not make the plane go in such a steep angle would it?

https://twitter.com/hashtag/FlyDubai?src=hash

Nice to "see" you Hat!

CCTV camera footage posted on YouTube claims to have captured the moment of the explosion as the aircraft impacted the ground. However, its authenticity could not be immediately verified.

https://www.rt.com/news/336185-boeing-crash-dubai-rostov/

Go here Hat its 26 sec, not sure if you saw this one give me break !!

Pilots ‘worked to death’: Flydubai whistleblower says fatigue-related crash predicted

RT also obtained the flight log of the co-captain of flight FZ981, which revealed that Alejandro Cruz Alava had worked for 11 days with only one day off prior to the crash.

Alava had been transferred from day flights to night flights without being given enough time to readjust his sleep pattern.
had reportedly filed paperwork containing his resignation because of the unbearable schedule,

that is actually why he had resigned.”

internal survey that asked “Do you think there’s going to be a crash?”
“Over 80% of the pilots that participated … said yes, there will be a crash at Flydubai. And it’s unbelievable, I mean they knew this was coming, they absolutely knew it and of course they will blame it on the pilots.”

But that is actually all airlines except the huge with senority

and that makes sense he was gonna make less at Ryan try to find that linjk

https://www.rt.com/news/336514-flydubai-pilots-fatigue-crash/


http://www.airlive.net/flydubai/

 

[Hatfield]

This part does not make sense to me.

How come we see it coming down at 75 degree angle. If it clipped a wing then wouldnt it just tumble and roll.

The only way this could be true what they are saying here is if they clipped the wing and then tried to go back up and abort the landing and then maybe that could explain it and could explain the fire too but they didn't say anything about aborting the 2nd landing.

Something is very fishy to me and I do think Russia would not want to admit terrorism again so I could see them trying to say it was an accident too. Some things really need cleared up for us.

The video does not make sense with these statements below.
The video shows a nose diver and immediate explosion. It does not show wing clip and plane breaking up or barrel rolling which is usually what happens when wing clip.

From article:

"However, the plane came down short of the runway, broke up and caught fire at about 3.40am. Russia’s Emergencies Ministry said one wing had clipped the ground."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ut-as-cause-of-airline-disaster-a6941991.html

 

[Hatfield]

Nice to "see" you Hat!

CCTV camera footage posted on YouTube claims to have captured the moment of the explosion as the aircraft impacted the ground. However, its authenticity could not be immediately verified.

https://www.rt.com/news/336185-boeing-crash-dubai-rostov/

Go here Hat its 26 sec, not sure if you saw this one give me break !!

Pilots ‘worked to death’: Flydubai whistleblower says fatigue-related crash predicted

RT also obtained the flight log of the co-captain of flight FZ981, which revealed that Alejandro Cruz Alava had worked for 11 days with only one day off prior to the crash.

Alava had been transferred from day flights to night flights without being given enough time to readjust his sleep pattern.
had reportedly filed paperwork containing his resignation because of the unbearable schedule,

that is actually why he had resigned.”

internal survey that asked “Do you think there’s going to be a crash?”
“Over 80% of the pilots that participated … said yes, there will be a crash at Flydubai. And it’s unbelievable, I mean they knew this was coming, they absolutely knew it and of course they will blame it on the pilots.”

But that is actually all airlines except the huge with senority

and that makes sense he was gonna make less at Ryan try to find that linjk

https://www.rt.com/news/336514-flydubai-pilots-fatigue-crash/


http://www.airlive.net/flydubai/

All I know for sure is there is fire well before it hits the ground. You can see the fire reflecting on the ground in the video right in front of video on ground.

Heck it looks like a meteor coming down the fire is so bright.

Something had that plane on fire before it got anywhere near ground.

 

[CARIIS]

Moreover, the safety culture within the airline was poor, he said, citing an incident when Flydubai shipped chemical oxygen generators on an aircraft from their maintenance base to Dubai and then covered it up.

That is exactly what happened in Value Jet

ahhhhhhhhhhh

“I remember one report, when I still worked there, a pilot filed a safety report saying that him and another pilot fell asleep after taking off from one of the out stations and they were probably asleep for about eight minutes

enjoy your flight and thank for flyting with us this evening. Please wake us up for landing in several hours!!!!

easy to fall asleep. It’s the same noise level and it’s quite boring, and the autopilot is on,” the former captain said

I had some months at Flydubai where I really felt like I was being worked to death.

https://www.rt.com/news/336514-flydubai-pilots-fatigue-crash/

attempt to land in poor weather conditions when its wing touched the runway, leading the aircraft to break apart and burst into flames, the Rostov branch of the Emergencies Ministry said.

Wing scrapes leave mark on runway

 

[CARIIS]

All I know for sure is there is fire well before it hits the ground. You can see the fire reflecting on the ground in the video right in front of video on ground.

Heck it looks like a meteor coming down the fire is so bright.

Something had that plane on fire before it got anywhere near ground.

meteor -- exactly what I thought hat- a plane coming down at that ang

le would pass structual integrity and fall apart it passes integrity specs!!

https://jethead.wordpress.com/category/airline/page/4/

 

[CARIIS]

This part does not make sense to me.

How come we see it coming down at 75 degree angle. If it clipped a wing then wouldnt it just tumble and roll.

The only way this could be true what they are saying here is if they clipped the wing and then tried to go back up and abort the landing and then maybe that could explain it and could explain the fire too but they didn't say anything about aborting the 2nd landing.

Something is very fishy to me and I do think Russia would not want to admit terrorism again so I could see them trying to say it was an accident too. Some things really need cleared up for us.

The video does not make sense with these statements below.
The video shows a nose diver and immediate explosion. It does not show wing clip and plane breaking up or barrel rolling which is usually what happens when wing clip.

From article:

"However, the plane came down short of the runway, broke up and caught fire at about 3.40am. Russia’s Emergencies Ministry said one wing had clipped the ground."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ut-as-cause-of-airline-disaster-a6941991.html

I am totally with you with "fishy". They did try to abort second attempt, made it to 4000 feet . Linked earlier.

How come media did not take any pictures of the intial impact area- there would also be a scar on runway when a wing hits it messes up the runway obviouly!!

Runway, in any picture looks A-ok to me. And what is this with crator less impact area?? Phsics impossiblity -

Now it is hard to say but does the meterite video look like 4000 feet? Close to a mile up?

Empty

91.300 lbs- 91 thousand pound things that icrash into anything leave a crater!!!!

short of the runway, implies grass, 91 thousand pounds of metal dont leave a "dent" in some grassy field?? Obserd

​

Tid Bit They cost 96 million each!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737

Some things really need cleared up for us. for sure!!

 

[CARIIS]

I had to laugh at the picture of the guys looking at the black box.

That would be what I would expect. About 5 people staring at it wondering
"Now what the heck do we do with it"

https://twitter.com/hashtag/FlyDubai?src=hash

And the second one did not have a mark on it ! They are located together !!! And no fire!! At least bang the second one up a bit before taking the pic !! Use a Bic lighter also !!!

Adds "character", if you will good lord

 

[Gigi-G]

RT reporting that Flydubai pilots are 'worked to death'
Confidential Flydubai employee states. Withholding his ID for obvious reasons.
Leaving cause of Plane crash. 'Pilot error and weather conditions '

Courtesy RT. / Reuters

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[CARIIS]

Funny

on the picture the "do not open" is hand written on some white tape!!
--white scotch tape , I would think might burn in a crash !!

I have never seen a taped up flight recorder sorry!
I am cracking myself up!!

"Just tape it up George, its only the flight recorder."

I would not want to be on any plane that uses tape --anywhere!!

Nor have i ever seen "Sharpie" markings on anything that can go 600.0 mph!! ---- and I am into this stuff!

I am getting silly!!

The plane is 5 years old - for the life of me I can come up with NO reason why the orginal standard markings on the recorders need a magic marker. Its not like they take em out and scratch off the orginal standard "do not open "stuff

how does one lose its shape on one does not in a fiery crash

Here is how it printed on them

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[CARIIS]

I will see if I can get any local opinions from my dad. My stepmother is from this region though her family moved to Ukraine when she was a little girl. She still has family living there though.

DId she give you any interesting info??

 

[CARIIS]

The powerful explosion left a big crater in the runway

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-b...badly-damaged/

Does this mean I need really thick glasses? Magnifers? A Telescope probably huh?

 

[Gigi-G]

Heads up!!

http://news.sky.com/story/1664446/two-loud-explosions-heard-at-brussels-airport

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[KaaBoom]

Hi Kaa

LIve in sunshine!! The black on the runway looked like dirty snow no? It is all lined up, the explosion suppossedly from the b/w video looked "nuclear"!

I would think it would not be "even" and organized for like of a better word . There is motion in this IMO it is too pristine!!

It IMO is just not enough debris for main impact area - for what is the word -- scattered stuff from main site- that is what it looks like IMO the black is too "nice"

Gas tanks in both wings - why would it be on only on one side of runway??

look again- what do you

think?

The runway looks to me like it is covered with black ice, with lots of charred debris on top. The area beside the runway looks like the snow is melted (probably by the fire) and the vegetation is burned, and covered with charred debris.