Amy Bradley, 23, Disappeared from cruise ship en route to Curaçao, 24 March 1998 #4

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  • #181
Woh! I can't trust anything with any kind of "Wiki" in it lol. I was wondering if we had an LE or MSM link.

From:
http://www.internationalcruisevictims.org/LatestMemberStories/Amy_Lynn_Bradley.html
(appears to have been written by Amy's mother)

"On Tuesday morning (March 24th), when we couldn't find Amy, we begged the purser's desk to back the ship from the dock and secure all of the gangways. They did neither. We pleaded with the supervisor of the purser's desk to make an announcement that Amy was missing and to post her picture. Only a customary announcement was made... 'Amy Bradley please contact the purser's desk.'"

From the "Unsolved Mysteries" website which featured her case years ago: https://unsolved.com/gallery/amy-bradley/

"The Bradleys claim the purser didn't broadcast the first page for Amy until 10 minutes to 8:00. By then, Amy's mother said, most of the passengers had disembarked for the day."

I have not been able to find independent confirmation that Yellow's "Sorry to hear about your sister" happened before or after this page.
 
  • #182
According to Amy's brother, Brad, at 9:00am, Yellow approached him and said, "Sorry to hear about your sister." At that time, the page to Amy had been sent over the ship—just for her to contact her family, I assume. The family says that no information about her disappearance had been disclosed at that point, so why should he offer condolences if nothing was wrong?

That makes sense to me. But she had partied hard the night before, and some reports say she had gotten sick. What if "sorry about your sister" meant something more like, "I'm sorry she had a rough night!" Just MOO. :)

Or this may be what alerted him


He recalled that he was awakened in his room at about 6 a.m. by a cruise line manager, who asked if Bradley was with him
. Investigators searched his room, and those of his band mates later that day, but nothing was found, he said.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/12/31/grace.coldcase.bradley/index.html
 
  • #183
Or this may be what alerted him


He recalled that he was awakened in his room at about 6 a.m. by a cruise line manager, who asked if Bradley was with him
. Investigators searched his room, and those of his band mates later that day, but nothing was found, he said.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/12/31/grace.coldcase.bradley/index.html

Ohh that's a very interesting find. I think it raises more questions than it answers:

1) If Yellow is right about the time, how can staff be looking for Amy at 6am, before even her parents knew and reported she was missing? Is the Crystal Roberts sighting, which occurred around this time, accurate then?

2) If Yellow was wrong about the time, and this happened after her parents reported the disappearance to staff, had the staff also asked the parents who Amy was last seen with and where? Did the staff then privately tell Yellow of the report when they searched his room, but before knowledge of the disappearance was made public? That would explain why he offered condolences to the family.
 
  • #184
I find the family statements unreliable because their accounts changed slightly over the years.

If yellow was awakened by a supervisor at 6 am then how did he kill
And toss Amy in, what.... about 15 mins? How did he drug and smuggle her in a space of like 10 minutes?

This whole thing never made sense when it would be easier to take a young girl living in poverty on an island. (Sadly). Probably a LOT easier.
 
  • #185
Ohh that's a very interesting find. I think it raises more questions than it answers:

1) If Yellow is right about the time, how can staff be looking for Amy at 6am, before even her parents knew and reported she was missing? Is the Crystal Roberts sighting, which occurred around this time, accurate then?

2) If Yellow was wrong about the time, and this happened after her parents reported the disappearance to staff, had the staff also asked the parents who Amy was last seen with and where? Did the staff then privately tell Yellow of the report when they searched his room, but before knowledge of the disappearance was made public? That would explain why he offered condolences to the family.

LOL yes, more questions

If in fact this is what happened, I expect its quite possible that the person who came to his door told him that she was missing.
The time is confusing of course
We are only reading Yellows words about this, but it would seem that it would have been easy to follow up at the time
 
  • #186
LOL yes, more questions

If in fact this is what happened, I expect its quite possible that the person who came to his door told him that she was missing.
The time is confusing of course
We are only reading Yellows words about this, but it would seem that it would have been easy to follow up at the time

Here's an interesting idea that might explain the confusing time.

According to the article you referenced, Yellow said he was awakened in his room around 6 am. But the Bradleys didn't report Amy missing until around 7 am—a difference of just one hour.

What if the difference is due to something as simple as a time zone difference?

Curaçao does not observe Daylight Savings Time, so on March 24, 1998, they would've been ahead of the Eastern US by one hour. And in 1998, Daylight Savings didn't start as early as it does now; it took effect on Sunday, April 5th, and so the Eastern US and Curaçao would've been on different times in March.

What if Yellow (an American citizen I assume?) simply forgot to adjust his clock when he got on board?
 
  • #187
So am I right that at 5:30 am Ron saw Amy on the balcony, but at 6 she was gone. At 6, yellow was awoken from his sleep in his cabin. And also at 5:30 to 6:00 an “eyewitness” saw Yellow giving Amy a dark colored liquid.

Nothing makes sense. The timeline is too tight when the most logical
Thing is that at around 5:45 Amy fell off the balcony or jumped.
 
  • #188
Here's an interesting idea that might explain the confusing time.

According to the article you referenced, Yellow said he was awakened in his room around 6 am. But the Bradleys didn't report Amy missing until around 7 am—a difference of just one hour.

What if the difference is due to something as simple as a time zone difference?

Curaçao does not observe Daylight Savings Time, so on March 24, 1998, they would've been ahead of the Eastern US by one hour. And in 1998, Daylight Savings didn't start as early as it does now; it took effect on Sunday, April 5th, and so the Eastern US and Curaçao would've been on different times in March.

What if Yellow (an American citizen I assume?) simply forgot to adjust his clock when he got on board?

Yellow is not an American citizen. I believe he lives/lives in Grenada
 
  • #189
There is no way to prove these sightings were "verified". There is no verification process for sightings.

You’re right, “verified” is the wrong term to use, maybe more accurate would be the term ”credible”.
 
  • #190
I'm curious what people's thoughts are on whether or not the brother (or even the parents) of Amy Bradley know a little more than what they're saying. I suppose it could just be that they're not allowed to make certain knowledge public. However, if I have the timeline correct: the last known person to see Amy awake was her brother and her dad awoke to see her sleeping on the balcony around 5:30am. When the dad woke up at 6am, she was gone. While I do believe that for a period of time, Amy was alive (I don't necessarily think she fell overboard, but rather she was taken into the Sex Trafficking Ring), that is a very short period of time for someone to go missing. And I can't imagine Amy getting up herself after a night of drinking and partying. She'd be exhausted at that point. Sometimes I wonder if she actually did come back to the room or not...
 
  • #191
So am I right that at 5:30 am Ron saw Amy on the balcony, but at 6 she was gone. At 6, yellow was awoken from his sleep in his cabin. And also at 5:30 to 6:00 an “eyewitness” saw Yellow giving Amy a dark colored liquid.

Nothing makes sense. The timeline is too tight when the most logical
Thing is that at around 5:45 Amy fell off the balcony or jumped.

I hadn't seen the report about Yellow giving Amy a dark-colored liquid. But even that doesn't make sense to me. Didn't Brad say Yellow was "danc[ing] a little too close" to Amy, and she had to tell him to "back off"? He obviously made her feel uncomfortable enough for her to assert her personal space in public. Why then would she agree to meet up with him in private and accept a dark-colored liquid from him?

Source: https://unsolved.com/gallery/amy-bradley/
 
  • #192
Asked and answered before, I am sure, but....

When Amy was seen by Crystal, with Yellow... is there any ship video of that?
Mostly what I am finding isn't MSM or at least i don't think it is
 
  • #193
Asked and answered before, I am sure, but....

When Amy was seen by Crystal, with Yellow... is there any ship video of that?
Mostly what I am finding isn't MSM or at least i don't think it is

According to "Unsolved Mysteries" when they featured the case:

"Crystal Roberts said she saw Amy early that morning with the bass player [Yellow] from the ship's band.

'I saw Amy and the band member walk over and up to the next deck up above us. And about 10 minutes later, he came walking around by himself.'"

Source: https://unsolved.com/gallery/amy-bradley/

But there's no ship video to confirm this.
 
  • #194
So, the cab driver sighting was the same day she disappeared from the ship

The Charley Project just says "later" right after describing the events of the morning, so I assumed it meant "later that same day." However, according to the following article http://crimefeed.com/2018/04/disappeared-amy-bradley/

"One month after she went missing, Ron and Brad returned to Curacao. They passed out flyers and talked to locals, and Amy's father said that he received a tip from a taxi driver who claimed that Amy was still alive – and on the island."

I'll edit my previous post accordingly to "March–April 1998."

According to this NBC News article:

Two women on the cruise reported seeing the woman riding the elevator to the top deck just before it docked at the island of Curacao. At 6 a.m., Amy Bradley was with a musician from the ship's band, they said. A Curacao cab driver told Bradley's father that Amy approached his cab the morning she went missing and said she urgently needed a phone. In addition, two strangers say they saw Amy on Curacao, one in August in 1998, the other in January of 1999.

Should I re-edit my previous post to say the first sighting was in fact March 24, 1998?

Source: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/8143921/#.WtjDhIcduJI
 
  • #195
According to this NBC News article:

Two women on the cruise reported seeing the woman riding the elevator to the top deck just before it docked at the island of Curacao. At 6 a.m., Amy Bradley was with a musician from the ship's band, they said. A Curacao cab driver told Bradley's father that Amy approached his cab the morning she went missing and said she urgently needed a phone. In addition, two strangers say they saw Amy on Curacao, one in August in 1998, the other in January of 1999.

Should I re-edit my previous post to say the first sighting was in fact March 24, 1998?

Source: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/8143921/#.WtjDhIcduJI

It may be too late to edit
Should be ok as is
 
  • #196
According to "Unsolved Mysteries" when they featured the case:

"Crystal Roberts said she saw Amy early that morning with the bass player [Yellow] from the ship's band.

'I saw Amy and the band member walk over and up to the next deck up above us. And about 10 minutes later, he came walking around by himself.'"

Source: https://unsolved.com/gallery/amy-bradley/

But there's no ship video to confirm this.

This looks like Amy and Douglas walking up to the next deck. From your link.
 

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  • #197
This looks like Amy and Douglas walking up to the next deck. From your link.

I believe that's a scene from Unsolved Mysteries' re-enactment.
 
  • #198
I believe that's a scene from Unsolved Mysteries' re-enactment.

Ok thanks. So not a piece of a video but a recreation of what the witness saw.
 
  • #199
Here's an interesting idea that might explain the confusing time.

According to the article you referenced, Yellow said he was awakened in his room around 6 am. But the Bradleys didn't report Amy missing until around 7 am—a difference of just one hour.

What if the difference is due to something as simple as a time zone difference?

Curaçao does not observe Daylight Savings Time, so on March 24, 1998, they would've been ahead of the Eastern US by one hour. And in 1998, Daylight Savings didn't start as early as it does now; it took effect on Sunday, April 5th, and so the Eastern US and Curaçao would've been on different times in March.

What if Yellow (an American citizen I assume?) simply forgot to adjust his clock when he got on board?

They even said on the Disappeared episode that the times are all confusing because of passengers being from different time zones and being on a cruise, not really aware of time, etc. This was back before we all had cell phone that automatically adjusted for time differences.
 
  • #200
BTW, I did ask a lawyer if a family can courtesy ask a court to declare a person dead to help them out for lawsuits etc when they are convinced the person is really alive. How is that not fraud?

He said he didn't know and we really need to ask a probate lawyer in Virginia.


I assume we can also pay to get the court transcript to see what was said? Not sure. Or if it is even worth it at this point since this is a cold case and she is likely dead.
 
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