Amy Bradley, 23, Disappeared from cruise ship en route to Curaçao, 24 March 1998 #4

[CoolJ]

I wanted to add that this cabin had always been 243 sq ft,so there is no question that they were in a super small space and Amy would have had to pass everyone to leave, but the balcony does have sliding doors.

This is not the cabin that had been referenced throughout the first 3 threads of this case.

 

[JSolt1210]

Check Chris Fenwick's story for his time line about the college girls.
http://chrisfenwick.com/home/2010/3/1/amy-bradley-is-missing.html


ETA: Amy went missing on wednesday. The girls were frantically questioned by Iva on Friday.

"Friday March 26th,1998 - 3AM

[snip]

... It dawned on me that the woman had disappeared on Tuesday morning and we had heard that she had been in the disco on Monday night, if that was the case, we were in the disco with one of our cameras on Monday night. Maybe I had some video of Amy in my room on one of my video tapes."

Just for clarification, in 1998, March 26 fell on a Thursday, not on a Friday. Amy disappeared in the early morning hours of Tuesday, March 24th, which the quotation itself states.

https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=1998&country=1

I’m on the move now, so I can’t rewatch the Vanished episode to see which weekday and date the Bradley’s reboarded the Rhapsody and talked with the two college-age girls.



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[Hiandmighty]

The floor plans we were looking at back in the day was for a family suite:
This one I believe: https://cruiseline.com/ship/rhapsody-of-the-seas/cabins/YW

But the idea of a family suite is incompatible with their room number and floor plan. They weren't near that cabin.

I wonder how we can find this out for sure not using information we have been told not to repeat from the posts in the past.

Edited: dry dock years might be on the ship's wikipedia page.

 

[CoolJ]

But the idea of a family suite is incompatible with their room number and floor plan. They weren't near that cabin.

I wonder how we can find this out for sure not using information we have been told not to repeat from the posts in the past.

Do you have the deck plans from 1998? Things change in 20 years. Renovations and whatnot. It has always been reported as a "family suite".

 

[Hiandmighty]

I believe the family junior suite was added in 2012 and it was remodeled from a different same size cabin suite. I'll try to find a link.

ETA: one extensive dry dock for a month in 2012. Not a great source but: https://www.facebook.com/pg/thetravelreviewau/photos/?tab=album&album_id=315640778499603

I'll keep looking for previous ones:

Another way to search is to look for breaks in service. Cruise ships sail continuously year round, year after year, unless they are in dry dock.


From 2007-2012 Rhapsody was only dry docked in 2012.
http://blog.shipmateapp.com/royal-caribbean-ships-by-age/

Will look for years before 2007

 

[Hiandmighty]

Rhapsody maiden voyage May 1997.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Rhapsody_of_the_Seas

So first drydock was 2012.
http://www.cruisemapper.com/ships/Rhapsody-Of-The-Seas-661
Floor plan is the same.

(If anyone finds different, please post)

 

[CoolJ]

Rhapsody maiden voyage May 1997.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Rhapsody_of_the_Seas

So first drydock was 2012.
http://www.cruisemapper.com/ships/Rhapsody-Of-The-Seas-661
Floor plan is the same.

(If anyone finds different, please post)

How are you confirming "first dry dock was 2012"???

 

[neesaki]

How are you confirming "first dry dock was 2012"???

In the wiki link it’s towards the bottom of the page under “Refit”... although if you’re wondering why it really makes any difference you’re not alone.

 

[Sillybilly]

Do you have the deck plans from 1998? Things change in 20 years. Renovations and whatnot. It has always been reported as a "family suite".

Link appears to show various decks and that the deck plans can change according to dates:

https://www.royalcaribbean.com/cruise-ships/rhapsody-of-the-seas/deck-plans/1896/BR

 

[Mica]

But the idea of a family suite is incompatible with their room number and floor plan. They weren't near that cabin.

I wonder how we can find this out for sure not using information we have been told not to repeat from the posts in the past.

Edited: dry dock years might be on the ship's wikipedia page.

After the renovation in 2012, some rooms were renumbered to accommodate the additional cabins fitted.


https://boards.cruisecritic.com.au/printthread.php?t=1599091&pp=200

http://www.au.cruise.co/cruise-revi...uises/rhapsody-of-the-seas/read-review-34502/

https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2012/03/29/royal-caribbean-completes-rhapsody-seas-refurbishment

 

[Hiandmighty]

After the renovation in 2012, some rooms were renumbered to accommodate the additional cabins fitted.


https://boards.cruisecritic.com.au/printthread.php?t=1599091&pp=200

http://www.au.cruise.co/cruise-revi...uises/rhapsody-of-the-seas/read-review-34502/

https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2012/03/29/royal-caribbean-completes-rhapsody-seas-refurbishment

From your links, they added a room 8000 to 8001 (or vice versa)

 

[Mica]

From your links, they added a room 8000 to 8001 (or vice versa)

I think there was more than one room involved. There are a lot more links in Google. Check for comments under articles at the links I posted.

 

[CoolJ]

After the renovation in 2012, some rooms were renumbered to accommodate the additional cabins fitted.


https://boards.cruisecritic.com.au/printthread.php?t=1599091&pp=200

http://www.au.cruise.co/cruise-revi...uises/rhapsody-of-the-seas/read-review-34502/

https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2012/03/29/royal-caribbean-completes-rhapsody-seas-refurbishment

So the question becomes... is 8564 the same cabin in 1998 as it is post 2012?

It appears that 8564 today can only accommodate 3 people. Would they allow a 4th person in that cabin?

 

[CoolJ]

I think there was more than one room involved. There are a lot more links in Google. Check for comments under articles at the links I posted.

Yes there were. It appears the rooms, at least on the 8th deck, were renumbered.

 

[Hiandmighty]

Ok. After reading and looking, the only room numbers that were changed in 2012 were aft of the atrium. The larger suite rooms are forward of the atrium. It also looks like the room numbers were only changed by 4. (Two cabins either way...).

That still doesn’t get their cabin up as many as they need to be in the larger cabins forward of the atrium. Even if you moved numbers by 6 it still doesn’t get them forward.

I file this in the back of my mind that their cabin may not have had two bedrooms or a separate bedroom area for her parents.

 

[Hiandmighty]

CRUISE LINE ENDS SEARCH FOR MISSING PASSENGER
CHRIS HAWLEY | Mar 31, 1998 7:00PM EST



Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines said it has ended its search for a Virginia woman who disappeared from a cruise liner near Curacao.

The company had chartered a boat to continue looking for 23-year-old Amy Bradley after the Netherlands Antilles Coast Guard ended a four-day search on Friday.''We're just hopeful that we can put a closure to this, that either her body will be found or she will be found,'' Royal Caribbean spokesman Rich Steck said Sunday.

Ms. Bradley, of Chesterfield County, a Richmond suburb, disappeared last Tuesday from the private balcony of the eighth-deck cabin she was sharing with her family on the Rhapsody of the Seas cruise liner. Authorities fear she fell overboard, but family members believe she was kidnapped.

FBI agents with trained dogs searched the ship Friday and Saturday but turned up no trace of Ms. Bradley, FBI spokeswoman Sara Lema told television reporters Saturday.

The agents took deck furniture and other objects from the cabin for testing, Mr. Steck said.

FBI officials and family members said they have received no ransom demands.

Ms. Bradley disappeared from the Rhapsody of the Seas as the ship approached Curacao, a Dutch Caribbean island about 40 miles north of Venezuela.

She was last seen by her father, Ronald Bradley, on the balcony at about 4:30 a.m. last Tuesday. She was dozing on a deck chair with the balcony's sliding glass door closed, he said.

Family members said the door to the balcony was open when they awoke a few hours later, suggesting Amy came inside. They believe she left the cabin and was kidnapped somewhere on the ship.

''You do not just fall off a cruise ship,'' said Marianne Noblin, Amy's aunt. ''She did not commit suicide. There was foul play here.''

On Saturday, family members returned home on a private jet sent by the insurance company that employs Ronald Bradley. The family had been on the cruise with other company employees.


Old article: https://www.joc.com/maritime-news/cruise-line-ends-search-missing-passenger_19980331.html

 

[CoolJ]

Ok. After reading and looking, the only room numbers that were changed in 2012 were aft of the atrium. The larger suite rooms are forward of the atrium. It also looks like the room numbers were only changed by 4. (Two cabins either way...).

That still doesn’t get their cabin up as many as they need to be in the larger cabins forward of the atrium. Even if you moved numbers by 6 it still doesn’t get them forward.

I file this in the back of my mind that their cabin may not have had two bedrooms or a separate bedroom area for her parents.

Looking through the links provided, I see people reporting a change of at least 10....
Let me confirm.

 

[Mica]

Looking through the links provided, I see people reporting a change of at least 10....
Let me confirm.

Correct...


Now for the passenger trials - booked 8046 and confirmed until entered the ship, "sorry you are in 8056" but this was not an issue just a renumbering of the cabins ( on the outside not on the inside of the door ) to cope with the additional cabins fitted. That meant we were immediately beneath the new site for the table tennis tables and the thumping of feet above which made the balcony very uncomfortable and sleep impossible.

http://www.au.cruise.co/cruise-revi...uises/rhapsody-of-the-seas/read-review-34502/

 

[Hiandmighty]

Correct...


Now for the passenger trials - booked 8046 and confirmed until entered the ship, "sorry you are in 8056" but this was not an issue just a renumbering of the cabins ( on the outside not on the inside of the door ) to cope with the additional cabins fitted. That meant we were immediately beneath the new site for the table tennis tables and the thumping of feet above which made the balcony very uncomfortable and sleep impossible.

http://www.au.cruise.co/cruise-revi...uises/rhapsody-of-the-seas/read-review-34502/

Ten numbers is 5 cabins. The cabins go like 2004, 2006, 2008.

5 cabins doesn’t get them up to the larger suite. Because the larger suite is forward of the atrium, it wasn’t renumbered.

 

[neesaki]

So please bear with me as I'm posting this more for myself since you guys don't seem to be as confused as I am, LOL.

According to today's deck arrangements, there were 8 rooms added where the Explorer's Club and the Crown and Anchor Study were located, 4 on each side of the deck. That changed the numbering of the rooms, to make what #8564 was to # 8572 today.

That's according to the Wayback archives from 1999. ETA: after the link, click on ship viewer, then Rhapsody of the Seas, then Deck Viewer.
https://web.archive.org/web/19991010040609/http://www.rccl.com:80/1.6/

Present day: https://www.royalcaribbean.com/cruise-ships/rhapsody-of-the-seas/deck-plans/1896/BR

Beyond that though, that room appears to be the same size, no change that I can tell. Although, they don't list any Junior Suites, just Family Staterooms and Larger Staterooms. Maybe the information is incomplete, I have no idea, but hopefully I'm a little less confused. Unless I'm looking at this all wrong, then please correct me.