Amy Bradley, 23, Disappeared from cruise ship en route to Curaçao, 24 March 1998 #4

[Wondergirl]

Carl's overlay youtube video for Amy and "the photo".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-GaKZsHN3Q&feature=youtu.be

 

[Mica]

Carl's overlay youtube video for Amy and "the photo".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-GaKZsHN3Q&feature=youtu.be

Wow, amazing. Thank you. That’s a perfect match!

 

[Wondergirl]

Court information:

http://web.archive.org/web/20071226...se_Code=CA&pCase_Loc=01&id=AAAA8tAAHAAAPq8AAE

 

[jashrema]

We don’t the even know what the grand jury was for!
So to make conclusions that the witnesses weren’t believable because there was no indictment is disengenous at best.

The point being made is that these witnesses signed affidavits and/or testified under oath. They weren’t just making false claims to win a popularity contest as some would want us to believe.

The witnesses are legit.

Exactly!

I will check thru the old "saved links" I have from 15 years ago and try to find the relevant posting but I seem to recall it was NOT a United States Court so all those statistics would be meaningless anyway.
Why would Yellow be in a US court? He is not American. NONE of the people are American.
People are failing to see, or they are trying to compare, legal machinations in other countries with the American judicial system. That's like comparing an orange and a basketball.
The Bradley's themselves have said they have received absolutely NO HELP from any foreign LE or judicial system.
It's a different ballgame folks when it happens in a foreign country or the open seas.

 

[Hiandmighty]

Exactly!

I will check thru the old "saved links" I have from 15 years ago and try to find the relevant posting but I seem to recall it was NOT a United States Court so all those statistics would be meaningless anyway.
Why would Yellow be in a US court? He is not American. NONE of the people are American.
People are failing to see, or they are trying to compare, legal machinations in other countries with the American judicial system. That's like comparing an orange and a basketball.
The Bradley's themselves have said they have received absolutely NO HELP from any foreign LE or judicial system.
It's a different ballgame folks when it happens in a foreign country or the open seas.

So you are saying the grand jury was in relation to Douglas? But it wasn’t in the United States?

I don’t recall anything like that so I welcome any information. It would be helpful to have new things to discuss... MOO


BTW, potential defendants aren’t allowed in grand jury meetings (secret) so I never suggested he was in the US.

 

[jashrema]

I tend to believe a verified insider over a potential suspect. I tend to believe Amy’s parents when they say their daughter was kidnapped. I tend to believe the eyewitnesses who saw Amy alive after her disappearance. I tend to believe the forensic artist who compared the Jas photos with Amy and bet his career on them being a match to Amy. I tend to believe the FBI publicly took interest in Amy’s case again when they did, because of information they may have received from those promoting prostitution in NY to their sex resort in the DR. I tend to believe there is a reason the FBI recently created age progression photos.

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Exactly. Exactly. Exactly.

I can personally tell you, having been involved with an FBI investigation into a missing person, they tell you NOTHING. Zip. Nada. They do NOT share any information with you AT ALL. They only time they do is when THEY want too. No screaming about it, pounding on doors, talking to the media, etc. will make them tell you anything until they are good and ready to do so.

My old friend and fellow sleuther Foxfire (bless his soul) was 100% right when he always said that the FBI is still working under the archaic rules of J. Edgar. Everything is a secret. Tell no one anything. When in reality, the PUBLIC is their greatest resource and they STILL do not use it!

I also know that the FBI does not do a damn thing to "appease" the family. They don't waste time and resources plus manpower to talk to witnesses, make new sketches, do appeals for information 20 years after disappearing for no reason. They have a reason. WE just don't know the reason but THAT is what is important here. Not who wasn't indicted 20 years ago. The fact, yes fact remains that the FBI, less than 60 days ago, put Amy on their missing lists and made a video appealing for any information into her disappearance. They are doing this based on information they have received that is credible to them. They would NOT do it if they had even a 1% belief that she walked away or fell overboard. They just wouldn't.

When Ce went missing, I posted here first. I posted that she had been taken/kidnapped. Within an hour, I received a call from the FBI telling me to take down the post because i wasn't allowed to say she had been "kidnapped". It was jaw-dropping that they said that when we found her bloody bike thrown into a corn field, signs of a struggle, her sock torn off...ridiculous.

The FBI know something we don't. It's unfortunate that they just don't come out and say it. She might actually be found if they did IMO.

 

[Tssiemer]

Carl's overlay youtube video for Amy and "the photo".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-GaKZsHN3Q&feature=youtu.be

Our Carl K? Websleuths Carl K?
Oh man. I trust him 100000% when it comes to this stuff. So he thinks it’s Amy, huh?

Fancy.


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[Hiandmighty]

To clarify, the video and update happened in spring 2017, not 60 days ago. The cold case FBI agent took an interest in the case.

Edited, the update happened around March 28, 2017.

The reason is the cold case agent took the case up.

Also, the reward is down to $25,000

 

[Hiandmighty]

Here, March 22, 2017
https://www.fbi.gov/audio-repository/wanted-podcast-amy-bradley-032217.mp3/view

Special Agen Erin Sheridan works cold cases in her spare time.

&#8220;Halpern: Many details of Amy&#8217;s night out are missing, so even the smallest bit of information could help agents solve her case.

Sheridan: We&#8217;re not going to give up investigating what happened to Amy.&#8221;

FBI doesn&#8217;t give up until the case is resolved or it is cold for such a long time they have no choice but to close it.

Edited, I believe FBI updated a few cold cases that week. I am looking to see if I can find which ones.

 

[Hiandmighty]

Just some examples of the FBI never giving up:

Updated in 2009, FBI is still looking for a child who disappeared while camping in a swampy area with his family 50 years before, including age enhanced photo.
https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/barter-daniel/podcast/view


FBI publicizing unsolved missing children&#8217;s cases:
https://www.fbi.gov/video-repository/wanted-vodcast-national-missing-childrens-day-052617.mp4/view


$50,000 reward and updated poster for a woman who went missing in January 2002, updated 7 month ago:
https://www.fbi.gov/video-repository/wanted-vodcast-rachel-louise-cooke-missing-092817.mp4/view

Updated in 2012, 1million dollar reward for missing FBI agent since 2007 (kidnapped in Iran, seen in hostage video) https://www.fbi.gov/audio-repository/levinson.mp3/view


Updated in February 2015, $25,000 reward for finding Asha Degree who at the time had been missing 15 years, including age progression
https://www.fbi.gov/audio-repository/missing-person-asha-degree.mp3/view


Oh and I see FBI puts their missing people together with the kidnapped people:
https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap

&#8220;Kidnappings & Missing Persons&#8221;

 

[neesaki]

To clarify, the video and update happened in spring 2017, not 60 days ago. The cold case FBI agent took an interest in the case.

Edited, the update happened around March 28, 2017.

The reason is the cold case agent took the case up.

Also, the reward is down to $25,000

It actually states Amy went missing 20 years ago this month, and the date shown is March 23, 2018.

As for why the FBI is making the effort to update, they&#8217;re the only ones who know why. As civilians we can only speculate.

https://www.fbi.gov/audio-repository/wanted-podcast-amy-bradley-20th-anniversary-032318.mp3/view

 

[Dushi]

So with the polygraph testing

So many things determine a pass or fail
That is probably why it is inadmissible as evidence

 

[neesaki]

Just some examples of the FBI never giving up:

Updated in 2009, FBI is still looking for a child who disappeared while camping in a swampy area with his family 50 years before, including age enhanced photo.
https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/barter-daniel/podcast/view


FBI publicizing unsolved missing children&#8217;s cases:
https://www.fbi.gov/video-repository/wanted-vodcast-national-missing-childrens-day-052617.mp4/view


$50,000 reward and updated poster for a woman who went missing in January 2002, updated 7 month ago:
https://www.fbi.gov/video-repository/wanted-vodcast-rachel-louise-cooke-missing-092817.mp4/view

Updated in 2012, 1million dollar reward for missing FBI agent since 2007 (kidnapped in Iran, seen in hostage video) https://www.fbi.gov/audio-repository/levinson.mp3/view


Updated in February 2015, $25,000 reward for finding Asha Degree who at the time had been missing 15 years, including age progression
https://www.fbi.gov/audio-repository/missing-person-asha-degree.mp3/view


Oh and I see FBI puts their missing people together with the kidnapped people:
https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap

&#8220;Kidnappings & Missing Persons&#8221;

Rachel Cooke was abducted, Daniel Barter is listed as a kidnapping, and Asha Degree is listed as missing but was apparently abducted as there are witnesses and they found her book bag buried along the highway.

It is reassuring to see the FBI doesn&#8217;t give up finding and seeking justice for victims of kidnapping and abduction.

https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/rachel-louise-cooke

https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/barter-daniel

https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/fiel...ssibly-connected-to-asha-degree-disappearance

 

[Fukiyama]

Carl's overlay video actually shows very well the one thing that really stands out for me.

"Jaz", her nose proceeds down straight and true and ends with a uniform diagonal shape.

Amy, her nose has just the slightest aquiline profile.

Does anyone else see this? Is there anything that could explain this? Everything else that could be seen as different between the two can be explained as living roughly in captivity, etc. But the noses always give me pause.

 

[Hiandmighty]

Is Amy&#8217;s death certificate public record?

 

[liltexans]

Carl's overlay video actually shows very well the one thing that really stands out for me.

"Jaz", her nose proceeds down straight and true and ends with a uniform diagonal shape.

Amy, her nose has just the slightest aquiline profile.

Does anyone else see this? Is there anything that could explain this? Everything else that could be seen as different between the two can be explained as living roughly in captivity, etc. But the noses always give me pause.

I can't get past the jowls in the "Jas" picture. I get rough living, drugs, etc. would age someone, but to go from looking age 23 to pushing 50, IMO, because of the jowls, is difficult for me to understand. What year was the "Jas" photo taken/released?

 

[Sillybilly]

In the Lucas Hernandez thread, this is just an example of what only 5 months on drugs can do to a person's appearance:

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...-Feb-2018-21-*Arrest*&p=14097688#post14097688

In the above link to Lucas' thread, I also find it interesting that, although same person (EG), the nose appears to be a different shape (whether due to lighting, angle, facial expression).

 

[JSolt1210]

Carl's overlay video actually shows very well the one thing that really stands out for me.

"Jaz", her nose proceeds down straight and true and ends with a uniform diagonal shape.

Amy, her nose has just the slightest aquiline profile.

Does anyone else see this? Is there anything that could explain this? Everything else that could be seen as different between the two can be explained as living roughly in captivity, etc. But the noses always give me pause.

Yeah I can see this. Amy's nose appears to me to "curve" towards the right (her left) from about halfway down, but Jaz's nose comes down "straight and true," as you say. Also, Amy's left nostril appears to me to come down a little lower and more outward than Jaz's.

If it were the other way around, it would make sense because one could argue this was because of beatings, ill-treatment, etc. But to me, it seems like, if this is the same person, then certain nasal features have been "corrected."

Now at first I thought that maybe the difference was because Jaz' head seems tilted a little further up to her right than Amy's does, so any overlay would not be a perfect match in that regard. BUT...

I can't get past the jowls in the "Jas" picture. I get rough living, drugs, etc. would age someone, but to go from looking age 23 to pushing 50, IMO, because of the jowls, is difficult for me to understand. What year was the "Jas" photo taken/released?

... I also agree with the jowls, and also the neck area. My mom always says that no matter how well made a woman's face is, you can always tell her age by her neck (and hands, but these don't apply here). Jaz's neck appears to be more "sunken in" than Amy's... in a way that to me seems due less to just a tilted pose, and more to age.

 

[Hiandmighty]

That difference in the neck is the difference between a young adult and a middle age woman.

 

[Sillybilly]

As for Amy's case not always appearing on the FBI site along with other missing persons, to my knowledge her case has never been removed from Interpol since it was initially submitted:

https://www.interpol.int/notice/search/missing/2011-955

Do we know what the FBI protocol is once a case has been submitted to the Interpol database?