Andrew Kinsman, 49, Toronto, 26 June 2017

[esldanmac]

If ever there was a case for a profiler this is it. All 5 men have a similar looks, hair and body type. Toronto is a big city surely they can spare the money.

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[dotr]

Hate to even post this link, but wondering if AK might have had encounters with someone from Pickering, Ontario prior to his disappearance?
imo, speculation.
http://www.cp24.com/news/police-inv...hobic-graffiti-telling-them-to-move-1.3530570
August 2, 2017 10:38PM

Police investigating after Pickering couple targeted with homophobic graffiti telling them to move

Courneyea said police have given the couple some security tips, including the installation of cameras and have listed the home as a priority address in case there are any calls about trespassers.

https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/...at-scrawled-on-their-garage-in-pickering.html
rbbm

Paul and Brett, who have been married for 13 years, lived in downtown Toronto and in a small town before moving to Brett’s hometown of Pickering a year ago. Paul said they have never encountered anything even remotely like this before.

He is concerned about how they came to be targeted — there is no outward indication that a gay couple lives in the home, he said. And he can’t stop thinking about what will happen when the 30 days are up.

 

[matou]

Hate to even post this link, but wondering if AK might have had encounters with someone from Pickering, Ontario prior to his disappearance?
imo, speculation.
http://www.cp24.com/news/police-inv...hobic-graffiti-telling-them-to-move-1.3530570
August 2, 2017 10:38PM



https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/...at-scrawled-on-their-garage-in-pickering.html
rbbm

I think they were "found out" because they have a child. They were on CP24 yesterday. I was thinking it could be someone who had done work on their property (it looks like a farm).

 

[Tripplogan]

This article from Vancouver caught my eye, if in fact there is a serial predator of gay men, perhaps he is one who travels, imo, speculation.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...bells-in-vancouver-s-lgbt-community-1.3973237

I wonder if the Louis Gonick case is related to this. He disappeared after being dropped off in Stanley Park in April.

 

[dotr]

I wonder if the Louis Gonick case is related to this. He disappeared after being dropped off in Stanley Park in April.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ancouver-16-April-2017&highlight=Louis+Gonick
[h=2]Louis Gonick, 21, UBC student, Vancouver, 16 April 2017[/h]

 

[dotr]

http://torontoist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/RainbowOnlineStrategies.jpg

 

[matou]

Very good interview with a friend of Andrew here: http://www.iheartradio.ca/newstalk-1010?autoplay=1.2997592

 

[matou]

His missing page: https://www.missingandrewkinsman.com/

 

[dotr]

His missing page: https://www.missingandrewkinsman.com/

Where are you Andrew?!

Andrew is our brother, our friend, our colleague, our neighbour, an advocate in our communities.

He is 49 years of age, is 6’2”, weighs about 220 lbs., has close-cropped brown hair and always wears a full beard. He has a tattoo on his right (mid) arm, another small tattoo on the left side of his chest and a large tattoo across his upper back. He has two surgical scars above his knees and walks with a bit of a stiff gait. He is whip-smart and has a delightful biting wit. He is a proud gay man and active on social media and dating apps. He is a loyal friend, a neighbour always willing to lend a hand and a committed volunteer at the People With Aids Foundation Essentials Market/Food Bank.

He was last seen on the afternoon of Monday June 26th, 2017 near Parliament and Winchester Streets in Toronto's Cabbagetown neighbourhood. After a concerned neighbour checked in and realised that his cat had been left unfed for several days and that he had failed to check into work, the call to police was made and the frantic search began.

Right now he is missing and he needs our help.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=Parl...&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=IoaGWcqgAqy3jwTFxYyoAw

 

[LadyL]

the email/text thing ...

criminals can and do use throwaway phones and hotmail/yahoo throwaway email addy's - to me that tip is useless unless I'm missing something obvious

http://torontoist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/RainbowOnlineStrategies.jpg

 

[LadyL]

brown hair, full beard, tall and stocky?

If ever there was a case for a profiler this is it. All 5 men have a similar looks, hair and body type. Toronto is a big city surely they can spare the money.

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[dotr]

brown hair, full beard, tall and stocky?

https://news.vice.com/story/two-missing-men-revive-old-fears-in-torontos-gay-community

Between 2010 and 2012, three men went missing from the village. All three were in their 40s or early 50s, all three were Arab or East Asian, all three frequented the same haunts on Church Street.

There are reasons to suspect that the cases are merely an eerie coincidence. Kinsman is white, meaning he doesn’t quite fit the profile established by the first three men to disappear.

Yet there are similarities. Esen fits the profile to a T. Of the five cases, all are of similar age, build, and all have facial hair.

Even more strangely, a hypothesis floated by an internet sleuth on an online message board some four years ago also rings true: All of the disappearances have been around holiday weekends. Kinsman, over Pride. Esen, over Easter. The previous three cases: Labour Day, Christmas, Thanksgiving.

Healey had worked with Kinsman, years ago, at the Black Eagle, a popular gay bar on Church Street. That bar was identified as a commonality between the three men who went missing five years ago.

 

[esldanmac]

In gay parlance these men would all be considered "bears". These men are definitely a type. Also with the exception of Andrew they are all dark skinned.

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[dotr]

In gay parlance these men would all be considered "bears". These men are definitely a type. Also with the exception of Andrew they are all dark skinned.

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What "type" would be most inclined to be attracted to "Bears" and is there any" type" who might be adverse to them? speculation.

 

[matou]

What "type" would be most inclined to be attracted to "Bears" and is there any" type" who might be adverse to them? speculation.

It's just a preference. These men are definitely bears. I think they were all on dating apps that showed off some pics of their bodies or where they described themselves as hairy. JMO

 

[Patience]

There is another missing man in Toronto. His name is Bradley Ramsey. Actually i think Harrison Mantalas is still missing also.
[video=twitter;893953034287448064]https://twitter.com/tpsoperations/status/893953034287448064[/video]

 

[dotr]

There is another missing man in Toronto. His name is Bradley Ramsey. Actually i think Harrison Mantalas is still missing also.
[video=twitter;893953034287448064]https://twitter.com/tpsoperations/status/893953034287448064[/video]

Another bearded man?!
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?345801-Harrison-Mantalas-34-Toronto-21-July-2017&p=13546602#post13546602
[h=2]Harrison Mantalas, 34, Toronto, 21 July 2017[/h]

 

[matou]

Another bearded man?!
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?345801-Harrison-Mantalas-34-Toronto-21-July-2017&p=13546602#post13546602
Harrison Mantalas, 34, Toronto, 21 July 2017

I don't think he's related to these other missing cases but JMOO. Hope he's found quick and safe.

 

[esldanmac]

I have to agree Bradley and Harrison are not the same type as the other 4 men.

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[dotr]

I have to agree Bradley and Harrison are not the same type as the other 4 men.

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Ita, hopefully all these guys are located soon.