Another Odd Thing

[Toth]

>According to DOI, John is looking for a . . .
He is reflecting what various investigators and profilers have told him or his lawyers coordinating the investigation.
>sadistic masochist
(humor break)
Masochist says "beat me, beat me".
Sadist says "no".

>He would also need about four arms and a skinny body to climb
>through the basement window carrying the baseball bat, duct
The last time I saw a TV show featuring Lou Smit he did not have a skinny body. Nor did he have four arms.

 

[Maxi]

Ah, but was Smit carrying a baseball bat, a stun gun, a bag of rope, duct tape, a flashlight, and, possibly, a pineapple?

 

[Ivy]

Lou Smit's intruder demonstration was a hoot. Smit's butt dragged across the window sill, and he landed like a klutz.

 

[gretchen]

Originally posted by Maxi
Ah, but was Smit carrying a baseball bat, a stun gun, a bag of rope, duct tape, a flashlight, and, possibly, a pineapple?

Too funny Maxi!

 

[Toth]

Such items were probably in a bindle of some sort.
Landing like a klutz is not necessarily unlike the way the intruder landed.

 

[sissi]

I don't think he landed,he went in a door,left by a door,he either had a key or waited in the garage until they left and entered through the door from the garage. I do believe Barnhill saw him,and if he for a second thought it was JAR,it should be noted for the police that the intruder was a slim young man. BTW where are this young man's ,he who crossed the lawn,footprints in the snow?
It would be nice if we had an efficient data system for dna crossmatching ,in the way we match fingerprints,a bank for all felons and offenders of any kind.

JMO

 

[Ivy]

Landing like a klutz was part of the reason Smit's intruder skit was funny, and yes, Toth, maybe the intruder landed like a klutz too. One thing is an absolute certainty. There is no way that anyone, including an intruder, could have come through that window on the night of the murder without disturbing the spider web and the dust on the window sill.

 

[Blazeboy3]

Originally posted by Ivy
Landing like a klutz was part of the reason Smit's intruder skit was funny, and yes, Toth, maybe the intruder landed like a klutz too. One thing is an absolute certainty. There is no way that anyone, including an intruder, could have come through that window on the night of the murder without disturbing the spider web and the dust on the window sill.

I agree...unless for some unknown reason...TIMING WAS OFF...???
WHY WOULD THIS BE (TIMING OFF???)???... IMHO...it's a trust- understanding thing---the MOM hired the homeless to do work... and IMHO the homeless got CARRIED AWAY w/IMAGINATION-EVIL!

 

[Blazeboy3]

Originally posted by gretchen
Too funny Maxi!

DITTO!!! :bigthumb: :dontknow: :nono:

 

[Shylock]

Originally posted by Ivy
Lou Smit's intruder demonstration was a hoot. Smit's butt dragged across the window sill, and he landed like a klutz.

The crime scene photos prove that nobody went across that window sill on months. There are still "drop marks" from the last rainfall that can clearly be seen in the dirt.
Besides, the suitcase was on the INSIDE. That means "the intruder" went OUT the window, Nobody, not even Smit, has managed to crawl OUT that window.

 

[ajt400]

Originally posted by sissi
BTW where are this young man's ,he who crossed the lawn,footprints in the snow?
JMO

The intruder, if there was one, could have easily gotten into the house without leaving footprints, there was not enough snow on the ground. Also, the walkways were clear of snow. Why would someone make tracks through a patch of snow when they could walk on the sidewalk?

This is one of the reasons I stopped listening to everything I heard in the media because they made such a big deal about the "no footprints in the snow" issue when it should not have been.....I then began to believe that they were going to print whatever they wanted without checking sources or relevance---because, hey, it's gonna sell copies, right?

 

[ajt400]

Originally posted by Maxi
Ah, but was Smit carrying a baseball bat, a stun gun, a bag of rope, duct tape, a flashlight, and, possibly, a pineapple?

Who the hell said anything about a baseball bat? Also, would this not be so difficult if the intruder had a bag? Would that not be the logical thing to do?

 

[Maxi]

Originally posted by ajt400
Who the hell said anything about a baseball bat? Also, would this not be so difficult if the intruder had a bag? Would that not be the logical thing to do?

"Smit told Newsweek he believes the intruder used the baseball bat to beat JonBenét.

The longtime detective also believes Jon Benét was strangled before she was hit with the bat."

http://63.147.65.175/news/jon031300.htm

 

[ajt400]

Okay, fair enough, but Smit also said a stun-gun was used. Most on this forum say that is not true, some have even called him names (but I notice that this is no concern to anyone, but I am attacking an author because he can't answer some questions--probably because they made too much sense for him) How can you use one thing he says and take it as the truth, but say another is just apart of his crazy head?

Doesn't work that way...

 

[Maxi]

Because the picture borders on the absurd.

BTW, I don't think Smit is crazy and never have said he was. I'm sure there is truth as well as conjecture in what he says. I think he's reaching too hard to include every item that appears to exonerate the Ramseys, tho.

Why would a kidnapper or murderer climb through a smallish window carrying something as bulky as a baseball bat to incapacitate or kill a little girl? That is, unless he had a peculiar penchant for baseball bats. That makes me think of Pasta Jay.

 

[Ivy]

Sack or no sack, the intruder came through the window without disturbing the dust on the window sill. How'd he do that? Smit couldn't, though it was funny watching him try.

sissi, okay, so the intruder approached the house without leaving any footprints in the patches of snow, and he left without leaving any either. Okay, fine. But he didn't disturb the spider web outside the basement window when he entered, and he left no trace of his presence in the house either. None. Not a print, not a hair, not a fiber. Nothing.

Incredible.

 

[ajt400]

What about the DNA that is unidentified? That is just shrugged off as "oh, it came from a factory, or she must have been digging in dirt, that's where the DNA came from" If your DNA is found in a murdered childs panties, son't you think you have explaining to do?

I think some people reach too hard to implicate the Ramsey's....
Tha's the thing about this case, you get one question answered and 4 more pop up in it's place. That is from both sides, parents or intruder...And I seriously thought that the snow thing was taken care of awhile ack, Ivy. There was not enough snow for prints. And why would someone walk through snow when they could walk on a walkway that was bare?

 

[Imon128]

What some people shrug off, others find a very viable option.

 

[Jayelles]

Experts have stated that the DNA under her fingernails and in her underwear could be contamination. Yes, DNA can degrade under certain environmental conditions, but it is unlikely that these were present.in this case (extreme heat etc).

If JonBenet had scratched her killer, the DNA profile would almost certainly have been complete.

 

[ajt400]

Originally posted by Jayelles
Experts have stated that the DNA under her fingernails and in her underwear could be contamination. Yes, DNA can degrade under certain environmental conditions, but it is unlikely that these were present.in this case (extreme heat etc).

If JonBenet had scratched her killer, the DNA profile would almost certainly have been complete.

So which point are you going with here? The fact that this could not be contaminated or the fact that the DNA should be there. So then in essence, it's just as easy to say her parents DNA should be present under her nails, too?