Anthony's admit to Conflicting Statements Seek Full Immunity

[KoldKase]

I hate the idea of bargaining for the truth.

You said it, Star. Any grandparents who have to ask for a "deal" to tell the truth about WHO MURDERED THEIR GRANDBABY are nobody I would trust in any circumstances.

Charge 'em!

 

[JustJax]

I have not had time to read thru this whole thread, just spent 2 hours crawling home from work in a winter weather alert...(normal drive time 20 minutes, LOL)

But I am wondering, if this is at all applicable, if they are thru thier Council, striking up a deal that will seal a conviction with thier testimony, in exchange...no death penalty be sought against thier daughter, in effect to save her life??

 

[evergreen]

Telling the truth about the facts does not require them to draw a conclusion from those facts. A person can not be prosecuted for believing a smell was rotten pizza when it wasn't or that an invisible nanny named Zanny exists somewhere on the planet.

I don't believe they will be prosecuted but their credibility and believability as citizens is gone, as such they certainly won't be helpful to KC or for that matter LE.

 

[MD MOMMY]

Look at OJ's buddies. deals are struck all day long. Right or wrong, good or bad it is an integral part of our justice system. the cost to get something that the prosecutors need may be worth the price. Whether it applies in this case or not, i do not know.

Totally, that is why I like Themis' idea for the A's attorney to show the prosecution what the A's will testify to(proffer)..if it's worth it then I say go for it. I just don't agree with the reasoning that it didn't interfere with the investigation so don't charge them. The only way I like immunity in this case is IF what they have to say helps the prosecution immensely.

 

[febedallas]

This kind of behavior - only telling the truth because there is no other way out, not because it is the right thing to do - has fostered this disregard for what's right. It disgusts me that George and Cindy are just NOW interested in telling what they REALLY know. I think that they, like their daughter, should be held accountable for their actions. I have sympathy for them, but they should have come clean a long time ago. Continuing to defend the lies of their daughter, when they knew better, is sickening. Their granddaughter deserved better than that.

I do understand that they wanted to protect Casey, but to what avail? The evidence was overwhelming. There is no way possible that they could have saved Casey after what she did to her daughter, no matter how many lies they told.

Sad.

 

[blackopsglock]

I am afraid I had to vote for give them the immunity only if they did not have a hand in the death of the child.

The grandparents are victims.Victims of KC.They have been punished as hard as you can punish them and that is the loss of their grand baby and most likely the loss of their daughter.

Parents do lots for their kids.I would not be surprised if George had "some" hand in protecting his daughter.I believe the mom has just been lied to from all sides and has only been following her maternal instincts and that's to protect KC.Maybe she did not give investigators everything.Maybe she knows more than she is telling.

 

[MD MOMMY]

And LE may be wondering why Bradley is even thinking about requesting immunity when they have no intentions of bringing charges. We don't know that yet.

Nope, that is on the LONG list of unkowns, just as what the A's have told or not told, causing interferance in the investigation.

ETA..but in this instance, we do KNOW of inconsistant statements, from both GA and CA.

 

[sweetwater]

There is an EXCELLENT thread started yesterday that has gotten neglected, and is highly relevant to this entire discussion. It includes the statutues, law in Florida, etc., and is discussed by cogent legal type folks.
I just bumped it up to the first page- it's called Obstruction of Justice, Accessories,... something like that. Sorry, I'm having some technical issues or I would post a link.
Please everyone, check it out. It's very enlightening.

 

[Chilly Willy]

I don't believe they will be prosecuted but their credibility and believability as citizens is gone, as such they certainly won't be helpful to KC or for that matter LE.

I'm not sure. It does appear that this is an open and shut case against Casey even without the A's help, but more is always better. For instance, if Cindy testifies that there was actually a fight on the night of the 15th and that Casey took Caylee and stormed off, would anyone think she was lying? What possible motivation could she have to lie about something that was damaging to her daughter?

 

[the by and by]

I think this whole family has cried 'wolf' one too many times for anything they did say now to be credible. Who is really going to believe them or KC? You will never hear the absolute truth from any of the A's lips, they lived their life based on lies with each other. This has all been a game with them, they have mocked and ridiculed LE and people trying to reach out to them and KC and LA high fivin' it with each other because they know she lied to LE and got out on bond. Where was the concern for Caylee in all this?? Guess what -game over- they lost, Caylee lost--but justice will win!!!!!

 

[McSev]

She's been called a control freak.


JoAnn_W

I recall seeing that in some of the documents released - and Gawd knows when she's on TV, you can tell she'd be the sort. Wasn't it crazy when you heard some of the recorded interviews with the brother and the grandfather how this family (particularly the grandmother) has to call and check in so much and find out where the other is? To the point when one or the other didn't answer, the person calling called the interviewer immediately after?

Speak of the brother, he's told almost as much as his father, including some details the grandmother left out.

 

[Spangle]

I also think they have everything they need without the A's which is one reason I don't think the A's will be charged. Nothing the A's have done has successfully interfered with the investigation. What would be the purpose of charging them? To prevent them lying the next time one of their children commit murder?

If the A's have done nothing, then they don't have to worry about being charged and will not need immunity. Not understanding the problem here..

Them being charged doesn't have anything to do with wither the LE has enough evidence to for court. IT has to do with wither or not the A's are guilty of something worth being charged for. That is the whole question.

IF they have done something worth being charged for, then they might want to plea bargen to save their butt. That is what those drug dealers, etc. do. They roll over and give evidence to convict people that would 'get away' without their help. LE need their help. In this case, LE don't need their help. They don't do it for a good 'story.'

You have said that you don't believe they have done anything worth being charged. That is what I would figure as well. What throws me off, is that they believe they have. And their atty is talking about this now. That sounds rather big woops!

 

[autumnlover]

This is so interesting because in order for this to occur the A's would have to essentially admit that the ZFG defense is off the table and their daughter is the murderer. Would the State be cutting of their nose to spite their face by charging them when they need them as witnesses? On the other hand, it is true that they have zero credibility after all of their ridiculous TV appearances. :waitasec: What is LA's role in all of this? I don't think it's an accident that he conveniently disappeared for so long.

 

[MD MOMMY]

I'm not sure. It does appear that this is an open and shut case against Casey even without the A's help, but more is always better. For instance, if Cindy testifies that there was actually a fight on the night of the 15th and that Casey took Caylee and stormed off, would anyone think she was lying? What possible motivation could she have to lie about something that was damaging to her daughter?

See CW the example you gave is something we've heard before..the night of the 15th, that is different b/c a few sources say that is what happened.

I do see where you are coming from on the last part..if she told a story that painted KC in a horrific light it would be tough not to believe her..especially b/c that is what everyone wants to hear..if that makes sense.

 

[McSev]

If the A's have done nothing, then they don't have to worry about being charged and will not need immunity. Not understanding the problem here..

Them being charged doesn't have anything to do with wither the LE has enough evidence to for court. IT has to do with wither or not the A's are guilty of something worth being charged for. That is the whole question.

IF they have done something worth being charged for, then they might want to plea bargen to save their butt. That is what those drug dealers, etc. do. They roll over and give evidence to convict people that would 'get away' without their help. LE need their help. In this case, LE don't need their help. They don't do it for a good 'story.'

You have said that you don't believe they have done anything worth being charged. That is what I would figure as well. What throws me off, is that they believe they have. And their atty is talking about this now. That sounds rather big woops!

I agree wholeheartedly. Further, omitting things and not responding to a request for a follow up to clarify might be construed as not cooperating with a police investigation, or withholding information.

 

[impatientredhead]

What about the evidence tampering? Washing the items from the Pontiac? Capital Murder? That's huge. They could stand to do some serious time, particularly CA.

Those aren't obstruction charges, those are felony charges, and that is why I stipulated that I am fine with immunity related to the statements made only. The different statutes were linked yesterday. It is my understanding that they are only asking for immunity limited to the statements. Evidence tampering and accomplice after the fact would be completely seperate issues if they suspected them of that.

 

[whiteangora]

I disagree strongly with that statement. They wanted her "found". However, they wanted a LIVE Caylee found and that is what they held onto. They were in serious denial and had a bunch of yes men around them. Telling them everything they wanted to hear, feeding them the ridiculous tips of sightings all over the country. Now they appear to have an attorney that IS telling them the truth.

They knew there was no way for an alive Caylee to ever be found as soon as they both smelled that trunk. They both also knew that the smell of death does not in any way, shape, or form, smell like a pizza. A non existent pizza.
George and Cindy are not uneducated people but they sure seem to think the rest of the world is stupid.
I wonder what has become of all of those Caylee is Alive Forums?

 

[impatientredhead]

I agree wholeheartedly. Further, omitting things and not responding to a request for a follow up to clarify might be construed as not cooperating with a police investigation, or withholding information.

Not responding to a follow up or not answering a question is not a crime. You are under no obligation to assist an investigation. You aren't allowed to mislead or interfere, but you have every right not to cooperate without a court order to do so. This is exactly the motto you see in all organized crime, answer nothing and do not cooperate. It is not illegal.

 

[McSev]

Not responding to a follow up or not answering a question is not a crime. You are under no obligation to assist an investigation. You aren't allowed to mislead or interfere, but you have every right not to cooperate without a court order to do so. This is exactly the motto you see in all organized crime, answer nothing and do not cooperate. It is not illegal.

There's a fine line between omitting when you're "voluntarily" making a statement (which is what I've read and heard was true in the recorded interviews) and being interrogated, especially with the FBI. The Anthonys knew that before speaking with them: the FBI came to their home to present information to them before those interviews took place.

Obviously Brad Conway and the grandparents are concerned about it - why doesn't he dismiss it out of hand if it's not relevant when answering those kinds of questions to the media/press? I'd love to hear what you think about that - myself, I can't see why he'd even discuss it if it weren't a worry they all have...

 

[JBean]

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I wonder what has become of all of those Caylee is Alive Forums?

I would guess those poor people are beside themselves with grief over the death of this sweetheart.