Anthony's did not tell Police New Zenaida Story

  • #41
IA.

I hope my earlier post was clear. I was trying to point out that I would have expected their own media influx pointing towards BP once the story changed, in the same manner they did later with the mall sighting photos.

I read the post too fast.

I totally agree with agree with you.

Whatever they say, the fact that they didn't report it to LE says to me they knew Casey was lying about Blanchard Park. And they knew Caylee was gone.

I don't like that they used pictures of mall kids and tried to manipulate the case outcome instead of finding justice for Caylee either. I believe they did do that. Lee confirmed it.
 
  • #42
the family is aggravating to say the least

but they knew very early on the child was dead


1. lies followed by more lies followed by more lies by KC

2. the child is missing

3. the smell in the trunk

4. more lies, and LIES that are so ridiculous that are so easily refuted it just reeks of someone so desperate to make up a story ...ANY STORY to allow her another 10 minutes of freedom


spin it 6 ways to sunday... they knew

NOW, if they want to try and get their daughter off beause they still love her.. well GOOD LUCK with that but you dont have a snowballs chance in hell at it and it just makes you look just like her but have at it.... keep in mind you are denying your grandaughter a little thing we call justice :mad:
 
  • #43
I truly hope that the SA has more convincing evidence of KC's guilt.

Snipped for length, respectfully.

This statement struck me-I wonder how much more evidence will be "convincing?" I am not directing this at you, but if the duct tape, the laundry basket, the garbage bags, the decomp and hair in the car that only Casey was driving, the fact that Casey never reported her missing, partied her buns off in the days she was gone, and finally the location of the body aren't sufficiently compelling, I suppose those who are still neutral can hope for fingerprints or still photos. Because if you flip this story on it's head, this woman still killed her child. And kept her in the trunk of her car. For days.

Otherwise, OCSO is guilty of spending a bazillion dollars on a search and an investigation to frame the unluckiest woman on the face of the planet who just so happened to have created a whole house of cards around a job that did not exist, a nanny that did not exist and who lived a lifestyle she supported by theft from anyone who was close to her. A woman who claimed that the fictitious nanny kidnapped her child and demanded that she not look for her or tell anyone. Even if you believe that part of the story is true, she still drove around for days with her child's body in the trunk of her car. Casey did. All alone. Dryer sheets all over the place trying to mask the smell of her dead child.

Even the Anthony's cannot sail past this fact.

Please forgive me running on-but it hurts my mind to even consider it sometimes.
 
  • #44
Yes! I think this blunder by LA of admitting under oath that they did not reveal such crucial info to LE is going to come back and haunt them. THIS IS HUGE! HUGE! This is not a silly detail. This is about the supposed kidnapper who took Caylee...wth were they thinking? This is not hearsay from LP, this is a statement under oath by LA now. Wow, just Wow!
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I think all these "goofs" by this family will put her away forever.If I were on a jury and heard all this, I would not believe one word any of them said,well MAYBE barring G..Cant they see this or do they actually think people are that stupid! They cant even get it straight where it took place!! God please let me live long enough to see this come to trial.I need a good LOL. in my life!
 
  • #45
Maybe the next "name" to come to light will be SYBIL. Can't wait to meet the rest of her personalities. How else could it be explained.
Bed time for me - tooo cranky LOL
 
  • #46
The A's probably deferred their depositions to see what WSer's thought of LA's deposition and the new nanny story. They will adjust accordingly. One of them will probably now testify that they tried to tell LE or they thought the other one had or their lawyer had or some excuse.
 
  • #47
LA seemed to pause a long time before stating the Blanchard Park story. It was almost if he was deciding which story was more believable. I wonder if he was worried about already telling LP about the park story so he decided to stick with that story. If he said he believed the Sawgrass story, then he would be admiting that he lied to LP and his partner, thereby sending people on a wild goose chase.
 
  • #48
Lee confesses that no one told police about new Zenaida story about blanchard park!
I believe this is a huge problem for the Anthony's. Lee admits they witheld this info from police. Wow!
anyone have thoughts on this? This may be why they all have attorneys and why the anthony's do not want to do a deposition with Morgan.
Morgan is a genius!

I was my impression Lee thought LE already knew it, and LP put it all over the airwaves and LE never came to him (Lee) about it apparently, so I get the impression he thought LE knew. (And I assume they did.) But you never know.
 
  • #49
I really worry sometimes we'll never know what actually happened to Caylee, but I think KC probably will be convicted regardless because of her refusal or inability to tell the truth. (Whether or not she committed murder.) I really hope the whole truth comes out one day or at least very close to it. Caylee deserves that much. Getting the murderer put away would be one measure of justice, but for the whole truth to be known would be a greater justice. (As close as we can get to any kind of justice in this world anyway.) MOO
 
  • #50
Yes! I think this blunder by LA of admitting under oath that they did not reveal such crucial info to LE is going to come back and haunt them. THIS IS HUGE! HUGE! This is not a silly detail. This is about the supposed kidnapper who took Caylee...wth were they thinking? This is not hearsay from LP, this is a statement under oath by LA now. Wow, just Wow!


Wouldn't that statement by lee constitute Obstruction of justice...what all the a's are trying to avoid...????

I would like to know...seems it would to me.
 
  • #51
Snipped for length, respectfully.

This statement struck me-I wonder how much more evidence will be "convincing?" I am not directing this at you, but if the duct tape, the laundry basket, the garbage bags, the decomp and hair in the car that only Casey was driving, the fact that Casey never reported her missing, partied her buns off in the days she was gone, and finally the location of the body aren't sufficiently compelling, I suppose those who are still neutral can hope for fingerprints or still photos. Because if you flip this story on it's head, this woman still killed her child. And kept her in the trunk of her car. For days.

Otherwise, OCSO is guilty of spending a bazillion dollars on a search and an investigation to frame the unluckiest woman on the face of the planet who just so happened to have created a whole house of cards around a job that did not exist, a nanny that did not exist and who lived a lifestyle she supported by theft from anyone who was close to her. A woman who claimed that the fictitious nanny kidnapped her child and demanded that she not look for her or tell anyone. Even if you believe that part of the story is true, she still drove around for days with her child's body in the trunk of her car. Casey did. All alone. Dryer sheets all over the place trying to mask the smell of her dead child.

Even the Anthony's cannot sail past this fact.

Please forgive me running on-but it hurts my mind to even consider it sometimes.

well, since you raise these points, someone might ask: If KC is the murderer, why would she drive around with the body decomposing in the trunk of her car for any time at all, why not dispose of it immediately? (And if she had a body in the trunk or the trunk reeked from what she knew, as the murderer, was decomp, why would she keep allowing the car to run out of gas requiring others to come assist her, etc, why would she put her dad's gas cans there in the stinky trunk, etc.) Why would she not remove the tape from Caylee's face before disposing of her body to make the death look more accidental/less cruel, why would she put the body there by her own house, why would she go so ridiculously far as to put a heart sticker on the tape to link back to herself and her use of hearts on photos? Why would she use bags from the family home and other items from the family home and then leave the matches of these items still in the family home? Also what about the fact that KC was living and "working" (helping at Fusian) around so many other people, any of whom could have potentially accessed Caylee, KC's Pontiac, and the items in the pontiac? What about the people other than KC with access to the family home? etc I definitely don't rule KC out either, but don't any of these points give a little pause? Sorry, back to topic. I'm not saying LE ever set out to frame KC, by the way.
 
  • #52
well, since you raise these points, someone might ask: If KC is the murderer, why would she drive around with the body decomposing in the trunk of her car for any time at all, why not dispose of it immediately? Why would she not remove the tape from Caylee's face before disposing of her body to make the death look more accidental/less cruel, why would she put the body there by her own house, why would she go so ridiculously far as to put a heart sticker on the tape to link back to herself and her use of hearts on photos? Why would she use bags from the family home and other items from the family home and then leave the matches of these items still in the family home? Also what about the fact that KC was living and working with so many other people, any of whom could have potentially accessed Caylee, KC's Pontiac, and the items in the pontiac? What about the people other than KC with access to the family home? etc I definitely don't rule KC out either, but don't any of these points give a little pause? Sorry, back to topic. I'm not saying LE ever set out to frame KC, by the way.
Simply because she thought she could get away with MURDER!

The entire crazy clan thinks they can pull the bull over every one's eyes.

Their constant lying did them in.

Plus when did they ever ever go on a search for the poor helpless baby...NOT ONE TIME...They ran around selling t shirts, and whining about how bad the LE was.

They lied to LE all of them did, easy to see, and, it is a CRIME to lie to LE and FBI etal.

Case closed.:razz::razz::razz::mad:
 
  • #53
To hear Lee tell why they did not share this info he seems to be saying that they were not getting along with LE or did not like the direction that LE was taking the investigation, so, since we are not getting along with them and further, we don't like them and they don't like us, we are not sharing any more VITAL and CRITICAL information with them...Boooo Hooooo!!!!

The truth of WHY not one single Anthony family member went to the police with this information is KEY to unraveling the entire tale. WHY did they not share this with the police? WHY? WHY? WHY?

IF

They were SO worried about Caylee?


but everytime they tried to tell LE about anything KC had said YM would come in with "But it's all lies, it's all lies, don't you understand it's all lies!" He wouldn't listen to another word regarding what KC had said. (As much as I like YM, and I do understand his point of view and the path he took, if it had been me, as tedious as it would be, I think I would have let KC and the whole family talk, talk, talk, just in case anything could come out of it. Imagine if they had just let KC talk on and on without interrupting her.)
But personally I think it's possible the Anthonys may have given up on trying to tell LE any more about what KC had said. Also, it's possible Lee thought LE knew the Jay Blanchard Park version, right? LP had put it all over the media and if LE didn't come to Lee with questions, I assume they knew, right? Though I was surprised to hear in the deposition that Lee hadn't discussed it directly with LE before, I think he looked surprised at this too to be honest, at the suggestion that LE didn't know or something. He seemed to think LE knew. My impression only

(Although, I don't discount other theories regarding why the A family didn't tell, if it's true that they deliberately did not tell, I'm not sure yet.)

I totally agree regarding the lack of urgency in their attitudes when Caylee was missing, etc. The lack of questions, the lack of pinning KC down, etc. Very strange. KC's failure to report, her bizarre lack of concern and urgency regarding Caylee while in prison, etc. (Unless they all thought or were wishfully forcing themselves to believe that Caylee was with someone safe or whatever.) But obviously very strange behavior.
 
  • #54
but everytime they tried to tell LE about anything KC had said YM would come in with "But it's all lies, it's all lies, don't you understand it's all lies!" (As much as I like YM.) Personally I think they may have given up on trying to tell LE any more about what KC had said. Also, I think they had the impression LE had heard the Jay Blanchard Park version, right? LP had put it all over the media and if LE didn't come to them with questions, I assume they knew, right? Though I was surprised to hear in the deposition that Lee hadn't discussed it directly with LE before, I think he looked surprised at this too to be honest, at the suggestion that LE didn't know or something. He seemed to think someone in the family or LP had informed LE. My impression only


The whole bunch of them should face Obstuction Of Justice...JMO.
 
  • #55
Simply because she thought she could get away with MURDER!

The entire crazy clan thinks they can pull the bull over every one's eyes.

Their constant lying did them in.

Plus when did they ever ever go on a search for the poor helpless baby...NOT ONE TIME...They ran around selling t shirts, and whining about how bad the LE was.

They lied to LE all of them did, easy to see, and, it is a CRIME to lie to LE and FBI etal.

Case closed.:razz::razz::razz::mad:


What resources did they have to find their missing child really? I mean, what can a parent or grandparent of a missing child do beyond begging LE and the public to look for the child, getting their picture out there and appealing to the public, driving around aimlessly hoping to see them, trying to get any information you can that might lead to them, hiring a private I etc? Would a parent/grandparent look for the child's body in swamps and woods, especially while praying and hoping that the child is alive, I don't know. I have not often seen families do that in cases like these. Because you can imagine, who could spend time looking for a body when you think your child is still out there alive somewhere? Though I'm not ruling out that there could have been obstruction of some kind, I'm not sure. And I do agree there were many strange, inexplicable behaviors on the part (certainly of KC) and possibly the family.
 
  • #56
The entire Anthony family knew on July 15th that Caylee was deceased and went into cover-up mode immediately.

I knew something was really wrong with the picture when George and Cindy did their first sit down interview in their home with local news media on Friday, July 18th, two days after Casey's arrest. In that interview, neither George or Cindy made a plea with the kidnapper to return their beloved granddaughter. Instead, they talked about child safety, and how they always make sure the pool ladder is put away after swimming, how the tool shed is locked, and how Casey uses a shovel to dig up bamboo in the backyard so Caylee wouldn't get stuck by bamboo shoots.

It was much later when we learned there was an issue with the tool shed being broken into on June 24th and that George made a police report. It was also later that we learned that there was an issue with the pool ladder, and that Casey had borrowed a shovel from a neighbor on June 18th. In retrospect, it was interesting how Cindy wove details into that interview that would later become issues. Both George and Cindy knew then what had happened, and were trying to build a defense.

But what really got my attention during that interview was that there were none of the emotions one expects with frightened grandparents who's grandchild is truly missing.

The story Lee told about the JBP kidnapping while being deposed by JM was just an extension of the lies the family has told in an attempt to steer the investigation away from Casey. They all know it's a lie, but they will all adhere to this lie, thinking it will save Casey from a murder conviction.

Lee's deposition is glaring proof of the extent the Anthony family will go to avoid telling the truth. If Lee really believed Casey's story of Caylee being kidnapped at JBP, and he didn't tell LE, this again is glaring proof that he was willing to engage in a cover-up of the facts as he knew them......withholding information. It's not difficult at all to see why Lee, George, and Cindy have requested immunity. :mad:
 
  • #57
but everytime they tried to tell LE about anything KC had said YM would come in with "But it's all lies, it's all lies, don't you understand it's all lies!" (As much as I like YM, and I do understand his point of view and the path he took.) Personally I think it's possible they may have given up on trying to tell LE any more about what KC had said. Also, it's possible Lee thought LE knew the Jay Blanchard Park version, right? LP had put it all over the media and if LE didn't come to Lee with questions, I assume they knew, right? Though I was surprised to hear in the deposition that Lee hadn't discussed it directly with LE before, I think he looked surprised at this too to be honest, at the suggestion that LE didn't know or something. He seemed to think LE knew. My impression only

(Although, I don't discount other theories regarding why the A family didn't tell, if it's true that they deliberately did not tell, I'm not sure yet.)

I totally agree regarding the lack of urgency in their attitudes when Caylee was missing, etc. The lack of questions, the lack of pinning KC down, etc. Very strange. KC's failure to report, her bizarre lack of concern and urgency regarding Caylee while in prison, etc. (Unless they all thought or were wishfully forcing themselves to believe that Caylee was with someone safe or whatever.) But obviously very strange behavior.

The JBP theory didn't spring forth until after Casey was released the first time, according to Lee. The Anthony's gave their statements to LE using the other theory of the abduction at Sawgrass.

However, here's a question for someone to answer: Is withholding information about a false story a crime? I know I wouldn't bother LE with a crappy story about a nutcase nanny and the Sippy Cup Gang (oh, how I've missed the SCG!!!).
 
  • #58
What resources did they have to find their missing child really? I mean, what can a parent or grandparent of a missing child do beyond begging LE and the public to look for the child, getting their picture out there and appealing to the public, driving around aimlessly hoping to see them, trying to get any information you can that might lead to them, hiring a private I etc? Would a parent/grandparent look for the child's body in swamps and woods, especially while praying and hoping that the child is alive, I don't know. I have not often seen families do that in cases like these. Because you can imagine, who could spend time looking for a body when you think your child is still out there alive somewhere? Though I'm not ruling out that there could have been obstruction of some kind, I'm not sure. And I do agree there were many strange, inexplicable behaviors on the part (certainly of KC) and possibly the family.

Who expected them to search swamps and woods???

No one in that family so much as strolled the neighborhood looking for clues ..
They didn't even search door to door on their own street ..
They contributed ZERO in the search fo Caylee ..
Didn't even talk with their own neighbors ..

The Anthony's did nothing but whine about LE and poor Casey ..

I hope they all end up in jail, I really do .. :furious:
 
  • #59
Who expected them to search swamps and woods???

No one in that family so much as strolled the neighborhood looking for clues ..
They didn't even search door to door on their own street ..
They contributed ZERO in the search fo Caylee ..
Didn't even talk with their own neighbors ..

The Anthony's did nothing but whine about LE and poor Casey ..

I hope they all end up in jail, I really do .. :furious:


Well said. I hope they all end up in jail as well. They really really deserve that end. This has got to be one of the most disgusting families that ever lived.
 
  • #60
Yes! I think this blunder by LA of admitting under oath that they did not reveal such crucial info to LE is going to come back and haunt them. THIS IS HUGE! HUGE! This is not a silly detail. This is about the supposed kidnapper who took Caylee...wth were they thinking? This is not hearsay from LP, this is a statement under oath by LA now. Wow, just Wow!

I agree this is huge. Obstruction by withholding information?
 

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