Anthony's did not tell Police New Zenaida Story

  • #121
Agreed. George has always been and will continue to be a very bad liar. I hope that he doesn't play poker. On second thought, if that is how he lost all that money, I can well understand it.

It's always bothered me when George said to the FBI, "I'm being straight with you guys here", referring to the decomposition smell. It sounds eerily reminiscent of Casey..."honestly" and "it's the truth". George was being truthful in that statement. Was he subconsciously telling them that other statements in that interview were NOT truthful?? I thought it was an odd he prefaced his statement that way.
 
  • #122
I'm glad JM got the Blanchard Park story out of Lee and on tape. The Anthony's forwarded how many tips to LE concerning live sightings, but failed to mention that the kidnapping happened in a different place and under different circumstances than originally reported...it shows they didn't believe a word of it.
 
  • #123
The only problem with this theory is that she had NAMED Zanny to people in the month prior to Caylee disappearing, and had actually used the name to the Rev. Grund quite a while back-so the name had been heard before she gave it to LE and before Caylee went missing according to Cindy she had heard that name forever! There are so many conflicting stories that these folks have told-I just hope that LE has had the foresight to copy each and every interview and compare notes as new info is revealed.



I personally think that Casey told at least one of them something of the truth, and admitted that Caylee was dead early on- and called it an accident and that got them all in defense mode after the story was shared with each one in turn.



Me too...



Dear GOD don't give them any ideas...although I lay you odds that they are planning to say she has split personality disorder and Zanni takes over when she is "stressed" and so when Caylee had her accident, enter Zanni and we all know the rest of the story...Casey and Zenaida are one and the same...UGH!




That is very interesting how she wove in all those details into that interview that had NOT come to light as of that date. I would say that goes to show they knew even then and were already in defense mode.



Snipped for space...Now we know they did not hold her down or restrain her in any form or fashion. Zenaida allegedly held her arm in a threatening manner and said we are taking your child-learn lesson...and Casey, allegedly, just sat there and watched it happen as if in a dream...Yeah right! Any mother that loved her child if placed in that same scenario at HIGH NOON and the park FULL OF PEOPLE would begin to scream her head off, and would grab her child and do whatever she had to do in order to defend that child-run-scream-fight/ANYTHING! This is the lamest of all lamo stories of all time and I am so glad that she came out with this so we could all realize how UNintelligent she ACTUALLY is. I hear people call her smart and bright, etc, and she is NOT smart nor bright nor does she have even average intelligence. What she has is a criminal mentality and makes her plans accordingly. This story just confirmed to me that it has all been lies since word one and no truth is forthcoming from the Anthony camp.



Oh my Lord I watched the video again and WOW! They knew from the start and began CAPITALIZING to make money to defend their murdering spawn! It makes me ill to even listen to them anymore. I cannot wait for this trial to conclude and to see her GONE!

I wish I could remeber which poster said it, but someone here (please take credit if reading!) said something SO intelligent about the kidnapping story being changed to the park that I had to literally slap myself against my head! WHY would ZG have "fought" KC for Caylee if ZG was already her established "nanny" and KC was going to drop her off VOLUNTARIALLY!???
Kudos to the original poster for this query of LOGIC!:doh:
 
  • #124
It's always bothered me when George said to the FBI, "I'm being straight with you guys here", referring to the decomposition smell. It sounds eerily reminiscent of Casey..."honestly" and "it's the truth". George was being truthful in that statement. Was he subconsciously telling them that other statements in that interview were NOT truthful?? I thought it was an odd he prefaced his statement that way.

On a sort-of related note...Talking Heads on this case and others have educated us all that LIARS give much more elaborate info than neccesary. This is what I think of when I hear GA speak. JMHO.
 
  • #125
They can't postpone forever!

And they can't postpone testifing before TV cameras forever either, as their daughter's trail will surely be broadcast live around the world! Too bad, so sad.
 
  • #126
Agreed. George has always been and will continue to be a very bad liar. I hope that he doesn't play poker. On second thought, if that is how he lost all that money, I can well understand it.

:laugh:
What do you want to bet the INTERNET SCAM GA lost money on was totally fabricated by KC and she scammed the monies? :doh:
"I thought I recognized that email address...."
 
  • #127
well, since you raise these points, someone might ask: If KC is the murderer, why would she drive around with the body decomposing in the trunk of her car for any time at all, why not dispose of it immediately? (And if she had a body in the trunk or the trunk reeked from what she knew, as the murderer, was decomp, why would she keep allowing the car to run out of gas requiring others to come assist her, etc, why would she put her dad's gas cans there in the stinky trunk, etc.) Why would she not remove the tape from Caylee's face before disposing of her body to make the death look more accidental/less cruel, why would she put the body there by her own house, why would she go so ridiculously far as to put a heart sticker on the tape to link back to herself and her use of hearts on photos? Why would she use bags from the family home and other items from the family home and then leave the matches of these items still in the family home? Also what about the fact that KC was living and "working" (helping at Fusian) around so many other people, any of whom could have potentially accessed Caylee, KC's Pontiac, and the items in the pontiac? What about the people other than KC with access to the family home? etc I definitely don't rule KC out either, but don't any of these points give a little pause? Sorry, back to topic. I'm not saying LE ever set out to frame KC, by the way.


To believe any of what you are stating here as far as another theory about someone else being involved with Caylee's death (and I know you are looking at another angle), sorry - I can't do it because:

1. You have to accept KC's attitude in the days following Caylee's disappearance (partying at clubs, all smiles, telling everyone the baby was fine and with the nanny)
2. You would have to show that Caylee was seen after June 16th in the afternoon - that night, KC is shown at Blockbuster with Tony - no baby.
3. Someone else's prints, or something showing someone else had access to the house, something would have had to be found somewhere - the car, the trunk, the house, etc. - also, this person with access to the house would have to know that they could enter because GA, CA, LA, neighbors, KC herself, etc. would NOT suddenly come home - they had to know the exact schedules of the residents of the house and know they would not get caught.
4. Someone would have had to know that KC left her car at the Amscot, and had keys to said car to get in the trunk and frame KC by placing a dead body in the trunk - wait - that wouldn't work either - now they have to go back and retrieve body and dispose of it somehow by KC's house to frame her.
5. EVERYONE she came in contact with thought that the child was with imaginary babysitter - Tony, his roommates, Amy, CA and GA, even the Fusian girls...
6. KC wasn't worried about the duplicate items - she never intended to be the subject of interest in the case. She believed that telling her story would forever cover her crime - she figured LE would be searching for ZG for a long time, since the one she described never existed.
7. It's a case of being too arrogant. She was only 22 at the time, don't forget. She knew noone would believe that she could have done such a horrible thing. She had her story pieced together somewhat. She covered her tracks by deleting everything on the laptop she had, myspace comments, photos, messages, etc. She figured that the garbage bags are common, duct tape is common and may even substantiate her claim that a nanny killed her child if the body was ever discovered. (didn't she also inquire somewhere about the weather before the timeline suggests she disposed of the body?) Perhaps thinking that the body would never be found.
8. Heart-shaped sticker - because in her bizarre way, it was a comfort thing - I still love you... blah blah - a gesture after the fact with a subtle, gentle goodbye.
9. She did not believe her father was home that day with the gas cans. Clearly she was agitated and kept him from going near the trunk - she even spurted the F word, probably to distract him from what was in the trunk. She hustled out of there very quickly, probably sweating to death for almost getting caught.
10. Running out of gas and leaving car at Amscot? Another snafu that she had to deal with - but was it intentional? She left her purse, keys, doors unlocked - a perfect way to explain away something that she needed to explain away - plus, the smell was so bad, she couldn't drive it anymore, that's for sure.
11. The dead animal on the car to Amy text - and that her father may have run over a squirrel. Noone else planted her texts did they?
12. The statements that she made that she just spoke to her daughter that day - 12PM. No record of that, nor a record of any contact with a ZFG on her cellphone. NOTHING. NOT ONE.
13. Her total lack of emotion when it came to her daughter - not one shred of worry, concern, sadness.
14. Her "Jesus! That's half my bond!" regarding the reward for Caylee.
15. Her phone call from jail - not "Did you hear anything about my daughter/" Come to think of it, none of the jail visits ever started that way either - wouldn' tyou think that this would be the first thing - "Anything about my baby girl???"
16. Let's not forget about all of the lies, lies, lies she told - most revealing to me is that she was "told" to shop at Target, fo to Fusian, party on. She was told where to be at certain times, yet she claims she had no contact with ZFG during the time that Caylee was "missing".
17. Blancahrd Park vs. woods by her house - no reaction when they thought they found Caylee's remains at the park. Why? Because she knew it wasn't Caylee. Big reaction when they found Caylee by her house. Out of sadness or despair? NO. Out of knowing that this was it - she was busted - bigtime.
I have tried tried tried to jump in a seat of KC is framed/innocent/victim.

I cannot do it. For the reasons above and so many others, I know in my heart that she is guilty. Guilty. GUILTY.
 
  • #128
I don't mean to be ugly but you know even if someone has multiple personalities or what have you, if the choice one of you makes when things don't go right or you don't like someone or whatever is to kill, then ALL of you just need to be kept away from people in case one of you decides to solve their problems in that way again. Regardless of how awful someone has it, if they decide to kill to solve their problems then they need to go away. The majority of people with those same problems do not choose to kill. When you choose to kill to fix your life then there is something very, very wrong with you and you simply can't be trusted to live in the world with the rest of us. I certainly hope some such defense doesn't ever allow her freedom again. Can there be anything worse than murdering your own child. Someone once said "okay you didn't know it was wrong, so when did you realize there was something about it that you had to hide it." KC knew she had done something terrible and had to hide it.
 
  • #129
i like a good mystery as much as anyone else, heck i will even take a good conspiracy but this case is all over. nothing left but stick the needle... eerrr uhhhmmm i mean stick a fork in her..:D

this will never get to trial, this is all just showtime from the lunatic in jail right now.. once the defense sees all the evidence... ohhh goodness sakes alive
holy moses smell the roses.. even the grandparents will come to conclusion that a jury will take about 3 minutes to find her guilty

nawwwwwwww. the train has left the tracks, the ship has sailed and the only people KC can throw under the bus are people she has not met yet.

the evidence we have not seen is things that will skeeeeeeeeer the dickens out of you...you think she is a monster with what you know now???

just wait
 
  • #130
  • #131
I wonder if there were any searches happening at the time Casey came up with her BP story? And if those searches were in areas she might not want searchers...ie. around her home. I recall searches in the retention pond by the A's??? Suburban...? I wonder if there might be a clue in the timing of this BP story.

I just wonder if it may have been an attempt by Casey to leak out false info, in hopes it might change the direction of the search...BUT...the A's told no one, but some local searchers did focus on BP after the news leaked by LP.

Just a thought...
 
  • #132
It really shouldn't be the family's job to sort out which information "is" and which information "is not" relevant.

Considering how desperate the situation would have been IF Caylee HAD been alive, unless George, Cindy and Lee didn't care what happened to Caylee, they would have run to LE would every snippet they could dig up...no matter how crazy.

Their response, to me, indicates they had no more hope for Caylee. There is no way the family wouldn't have been camped on LE's doorstep otherwise. (IMO) Physically, every member of the family (except Casey) has aged dramatically in a matter of months. They look horrible. Even their posture shows defeat. Their eyes are hollow, dark and pained.

IMO


Also, during the bond hearing, and in witness statements, all LE was concerned with is "who would KC open up to?" and "would she talk if she got out on bond?" Well- it looks like she did talk but the A's didn't relay the message.

Imagine if KC had said "well it was an accident, Caylee's dead" and the A's (in their quest to find a live Caylee) decided that they didn't believe her. Would their decision not to tell LE be any different than not telling LE the JBP story?
I think not.
 
  • #133
:clap::clap::clap:

...and getting that tattoo "it's a beautiful life" must have been in the instructions too!
ugh...sick

thats actually hilarious.

and i dint think anythiung was funny about this ________
 
  • #134
I don't think so ..

George is Cindy's puppet ..
She'll never let him "crack" ..

True enough, GA is CA's puppet BUT I also think that under this depo GA is going to sing like a bird. The reason I say this is because he went to the FBI without CA knowledge and seemed to be somewhat truthful in that interview. And he testified in front of the grand jury knowing that what he had to say (the truth) was going to effect his daughter greatly but not in a good way. GA knew this. I think GA is going to play a major major part in this depo. JMO
 
  • #135
I don't mean to be ugly but you know even if someone has multiple personalities or what have you, if the choice one of you makes when things don't go right or you don't like someone or whatever is to kill, then ALL of you just need to be kept away from people in case one of you decides to solve their problems in that way again. Regardless of how awful someone has it, if they decide to kill to solve their problems then they need to go away. The majority of people with those same problems do not choose to kill. When you choose to kill to fix your life then there is something very, very wrong with you and you simply can't be trusted to live in the world with the rest of us. I certainly hope some such defense doesn't ever allow her freedom again. Can there be anything worse than murdering your own child. Someone once said "okay you didn't know it was wrong, so when did you realize there was something about it that you had to hide it." KC knew she had done something terrible and had to hide it.

ALL of me agrees with you!! :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
 

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