Anthony's Seek Full Immunity#2

[elfie]

what seemed fishy to me, when my hubby is watching TV, he has no idea what anyone is wearing..........I asked him last night after our granddaughter went home with my son, 'what was she wearing'.......hubby says her usual pink stuff........but GA KNEW exactly what Caylee had on and the back packs and the time.............do the same experiment with men in your family.......bet they are like my hubby..........'no clue' IMO:behindbar

I didn't buy any new clothes for the longest time because every time I put something on mine asked, "Is that new?" :crazy:

 

[DotsEyes]

Perhaps they want to come clean and do not want their previous lies to be held against them. Little things like:

GA didn't see them the 16th.
There was a huge drama the night of the 15th.
Ultimatums were made.
They were thinking about gaining custody because KC was such a horrible mother.
They know it was decomp
They are missing a sheet from the baby's bed.
They tried to get rid of the decomp smell
There was no gas can incident
There was no car chase
They knew she wasn't working
She has a HUGE history of thieving and lying.
That she is capable of violence and rage.
They subsidized her because they knew she was incapable of taking care of Caylee and that Caylee would be in danger if she lived with her mother out of their house.
That KC never bonded with Caylee and all of her motherly attention was forced.
That KC has been trouble waiting to happen for a long time.

Then they could start talking about what else they did.

 

[OneLostGrl]

WOW! Well freakin said Gummishoe! I also feel no immunity should go down because the A's need to be made an example of. How long before other crimes are committed and the families start just stonewalling and fabricating when it suits them? Show the world that this isn't going to be tolerated in any way shape or form. The A's may not have directly ended this little child's life, but they created the murder weapon....KC

ITA! I think it's time they become decent parents and let Casey face what she has done.

 

[Leila]

Yesterday, when the poll was posted, I wavered between giving immunity and not giving immunity. I voted for giving them immunity, solely on the basis of giving the prosecution all it needs to get a conviction.

But, in the past 24 hours I've had a change of mind on the whole issue of giving George and Cindy immunity. I've thought about all the valuable time wasted because of the Anthony's lack of cooperation; of the man hours that have gone into this investigation; of the search teams that have searched for Caylee - the sweat, tears, and exhaustion of the volunteers; the generosity of people donating to the search effort; the money spent by LE - taxpayer's money; George and Cindy's attempts to malign the Orange County Sheriffs Dept; and the deliberate lies of George and Cindy - never more evident than during their interview on LKL just 24 hours before Caylee's remains were found.

Let's put grief aside for the moment. Just because someone is grief stricken over the loss of a family member, is not an excuse to disregard the things that are fundamental to the moral values that structure our society. We place great value on truth and honesty, and our laws are based on that concept.

So why should George and Cindy be excused for their lies and given immunity? For all that we've suspected they've done, and all they've done that we're unaware of, if they've broken the law they should pay the consequences. I don't believe they should receive immunity.

 

[OneLostGrl]

what seemed fishy to me, when my hubby is watching TV, he has no idea what anyone is wearing..........I asked him last night after our granddaughter went home with my son, 'what was she wearing'.......hubby says her usual pink stuff........but GA KNEW exactly what Caylee had on and the back packs and the time.............do the same experiment with men in your family.......bet they are like my hubby..........'no clue' IMO:behindbar

LOL. My husband could tell you what every member of our family was wearing today.

 

[OneLostGrl]

I would guess that George and Cindy are both beyond tired. Their lives have been a living hell for the past 6 months, without a break. It just keeps getting worse and worse, with no end in sight. I won't be surprised if one (or both) of them don't soon end up hospitalized.

I agree.. or dead at their own hands.

 

[Chilly Willy]

I agree.. or dead at their own hands.

I was avoiding saying that but I do agree.

 

[MiraclesHappen]

My husband would be hard pressed to tell you what HE is wearing right this moment without looking first.

Gosh, it seems we are related by marriage!!!:blowkiss:

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I agree SS!!!

I made the distinction between wanting immunity and actually needing immunity because I am a picky old lady!!!

:blowkiss: Why I like ya!

 

[chaingangal]

Say the A's get full immunity. What happens to our case if one or the other decide to say they had an accident (after receiving immunity) while babysitting and our poor Casey was just trying to save us and take the rap?

 

[MiraclesHappen]

:blowkiss: Why I like ya!

:biglaugh: picky picky picky...:blowkiss:

 

[Themis]

Quote faefrost
if George lied about seeing Caylee and KC on the 16th, by lying it moves the actual crime scene out of the A's house and to some unknown location. It blocks alot of direct investigation in his house. Which if it is the actual scene of the scrime, shields KC from possible evidence found there.

If it is a lie, it is a HUGE lie, one that directly and deliberately interfered with a homicide investigation. And one that could lead to accesory after the fact type charges.






I cannot wrap my mind around this. Can somebody explain further?

If Casey leaves with Caylee Sunday night, there is no body and the location of the killing is unknown.
If Casey leaves Monday with Casey, there is no body and the location of the crime is unknown.

How does this lie affect the probable cause necessary to get a search warrant???:blowkiss:

What if KC killed Caylee right in that house in her own bed -- chloroformed her there while the big blow-out argument was going on ... yell a while at her mom ... to toss Caylee into bed and chloroform her to keep her quiet (too much) ... go back and yell at her mom ... threats to get custody ... KC says something like I'd kill her first before I'd let you have her ... CA puts hands around KC's throat ... KC grabs sheets, blankets and Klee and storms out the door ... goes to motel and paces the parking lot ... . GA knows of the rage between the two and tries to say they were all hunky dory on the 16th and he saw her leave for work. What are they protecting? Premeditation? Child abuse resulting in death and a possible death penalty? I'm just letting my mind work on this. There could be legal motive, but it could be argued both ways. What if Klee died Sunday night on June 15th. What if KC tried to move Klee into the bag with the shovel on June 18th -- 2.6 days after death. Hummmmm.


Another issue, did GA know what KC had said in the LE interviews prior to his making that statement that he saw them on June 16th? If not, then bolstering KC's credibility (which is sadly beyond salvage in any respect) is not likely to be a reason. I think when GA tried to tell LE that CA knew more than she was telling is much more significant.

 

[Themis]

I agree SS!!!

I made the distinction between wanting immunity and actually needing immunity because I am a picky old lady!!!

Ah, picky is often what makes the difference between a good lawyer and a great lawyer! So glad you are picky and you are more like a sage on a mountaintop. :blowkiss:

 

[reeseeva]

If the Anthonys are seeking Immunity, don't they have to have something to give to the prosecutors, something big in exchange for immunity?

Maybe, if they do, we will hear more an entirely different story???

 

[manatee]

Say the A's get full immunity. What happens to our case if one or the other decide to say they had an accident (after receiving immunity) while babysitting and our poor Casey was just trying to save us and take the rap?

If they "confess" to the murder, I'm thinking they go to Jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200 dollars...immunity would only apply to other criminal offenses as specified in the immunity deal.
What do the lawyers say???

 

[CitizenKim]

Well, it is a wild thought Casey would leave to drop her daughter off at the nanny's so she could go to her job at Universal when about 2 weeks earlier Cindy went to Universal and found out Casey didn't work there.
Let me try to explain this one more time.
This is my opinion only. The question was 'why would George lie about seeing Casey on June 16th?' My response to this question is simple, IMO, George was trying to bolster her story. I don't think this is the only lie he told, and I don't think the other lies were any better than this one. IMO, as much as these people seem to lie, I would think they would do a better job of it, I mean, it rolls off the tongue real well, but it doesn't make a lot of sense.
IIRC, and I admit being shaky on this point, when they were going with June 9th as being the date Caylee was abducted, George was saying he saw Casey leave with her that morning as well. So, same lie, different week. Not saying it was a good lie, but not many of them have been.
JMO
Lanie

Wow- is that true in early June Cindy found out? I thought that happened in July?

 

[amethyst221]

If they "confess" to the murder, I'm thinking they go to Jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200 dollars...immunity would only apply to other criminal offenses as specified in the immunity deal.
What do the lawyers say???

If they made such a confession at this point (as opposed to admitting some mistruths along the way, or some accessory after the fact activity), I think it would get incredible scrutiny and would be met with total skepticism by LE, who most likely would think they were attempting to muddy the waters in the case against Casey, or just be dramatic. They'd have to make a confession, with verifiable facts and details, and persuade a judge to accept it. I know it sounds crazy, but a court tries to make sure of this stuff, not just punish someone because they're mad at them or don't approve of their behavior in other regards. I don't think they did it (the murder); I don't think they'd do it (confess). Honestly.

Hypothetically, they couldn't get away with "trickery" by trying to get immunity, like for perjury, obstruction, etc., only to then pop up and say "Oh, yeah, we're the real killers and now you can't prosecute us, we're immune." The immunity would be gone is a flash.

 

[reeseeva]

Framon what I undersgtand.................You have to GIVE something of value in exchange for immunity.

Could someone versed in this elaborate?

thanks

 

[Pink Panther]

They've lied so much and obfuscated so much that it would be difficult to accept/believe much from them at this point. The boy who cries wolf and all...

MOO

 

[MiraclesHappen]

Say the A's get full immunity. What happens to our case if one or the other decide to say they had an accident (after receiving immunity) while babysitting and our poor Casey was just trying to save us and take the rap?

Perhaps they will recieve transactional immunity from the prosecution .

That way it doesn't provide them the free ticket to exonerate Casey.:blowkiss: