Anyone going to watch the movie, Flight 93?

[Jules]

My hubby and I watched both shows last night on A&E. The one on flight 11 and then the movie on flight 93. I can tell you we both cried. The show on flight 11 was very good. While it showed the stress of the passengers, it didn't show panic like the movie did. I'd like to believe that the passengers on flight 11 truly thought that they were heading back to the airport and that they didn't know what was about to happen.

The movie made me cry from beginning to end. I could not imagine being on that plane knowing what happened with the other 3 hijacked planes. I thought the scenes between passengers and their loved ones were done very well. I would imagine they were very accurate.

The one thing hubby and I both commented on is why they didn't overpower the hijackers earlier? In watching the two shows, the hijackers on flight 11 seemed to have a better plan for how to carry things out. They (at least in the show) seemed older and more in control. The younger hijackers on flight 93 seemed really unsure of what they were doing and, as someone said above, were small and would have been easy to take out.

That said, none of us know what we would have done if we'd been there. It's easy to say we would have done this or we would have done that after the fact. My heart truly breaks for what they went through. I will keep their family members in my prayers.

 

[close_enough]

My hubby and I watched both shows last night on A&E. The one on flight 11 and then the movie on flight 93. I can tell you we both cried. The show on flight 11 was very good. While it showed the stress of the passengers, it didn't show panic like the movie did. I'd like to believe that the passengers on flight 11 truly thought that they were heading back to the airport and that they didn't know what was about to happen.

The movie made me cry from beginning to end. I could not imagine being on that plane knowing what happened with the other 3 hijacked planes. I thought the scenes between passengers and their loved ones were done very well. I would imagine they were very accurate.

The one thing hubby and I both commented on is why they didn't overpower the hijackers earlier? In watching the two shows, the hijackers on flight 11 seemed to have a better plan for how to carry things out. They (at least in the show) seemed older and more in control. The younger hijackers on flight 93 seemed really unsure of what they were doing and, as someone said above, were small and would have been easy to take out.

That said, none of us know what we would have done if we'd been there. It's easy to say we would have done this or we would have done that after the fact. My heart truly breaks for what they went through. I will keep their family members in my prayers.

well, i think with flight 93, the plane didn't take off on time...it was running late...from what i gathered, all the planes were on a time schedule & this might have been part of the reason things got screwy on 93....there was lots of time for phone calls....another thing i noticed was that all 5 of the terrorists locked themselves in the cockpit on flight 11...flight 93 was different..they kept 2 out of the cockpit, watching the passengers....

i watched the show about flight 11 last night also....since it was the first plane to hit, there was no news "out there" of anything out of the ordinary...they think that the few passengers that knew of something wrong, didn't say anything to the others, to prevent panic....i'd like to think the passengers on 11 didn't realize what was going on, but i do think that once the plane started flying lower & lower toward the bldgs, there had to be seconds where they knew they were going to die...

 

[Jules]

well, i think with flight 93, the plane didn't take off on time...it was running late...from what i gathered, all the planes were on a time schedule & this might have been part of the reason things got screwy on 93....there was lots of time for phone calls....another thing i noticed was that all 5 of the terrorists locked themselves in the cockpit on flight 11...flight 93 was different..they kept 2 out of the cockpit, watching the passengers....

Yep, that's probably true. I had forgotten it didn't take off on time. That definitely could have had something to do with it.

We wondered if the real hijackers were as nervous as they were portrayed in the movie? Surely they had trained for that for some time. We thought they seemed so unsure of what they were doing. We wondered if that wasn't for the movie's sake. Obviously there is no way of truly knowing.

 

[IdahoMom]

i'd like to think the passengers on 11 didn't realize what was going on, but i do think that once the plane started flying lower & lower toward the bldgs, there had to be seconds where they knew they were going to die...

There are so many sad, tragic stories to be told (I personally think they should be told over and over again), but one of the stories that really gets me is the young kids that had earned a reward trip through National Geographic for scholastic achievement. If my memory serves me right, they were flying for the first time and I don't think their parents were with them , just chaperones. They were the plane that hit the Pentagon.

 

[close_enough]

Yep, that's probably true. I had forgotten it didn't take off on time. That definitely could have had something to do with it.

We wondered if the real hijackers were as nervous as they were portrayed in the movie? Surely they had trained for that for some time. We thought they seemed so unsure of what they were doing. We wondered if that wasn't for the movie's sake. Obviously there is no way of truly knowing.

i don't know..my husband & i wondered the same thing....

 

[IdahoMom]

i don't know..my husband & i wondered the same thing....

I don't think they thought the passengers would revolt. They thought they could announce the hijacker's demands had been met, and that the passengers would sit there like wimpy little sheep.:snooty:

 

[close_enough]

There are so many sad, tragic stories to be told (I personally think they should be told over and over again), but one of the stories that really gets me is the young kids that had earned a reward trip through National Geographic for scholastic achievement. If my memory serves me right, they were flying for the first time and I don't think their parents were with them , just chaperones. They were on one of the planes that hit the towers.

yes, you're right...it was flight 77; the one at the Pentagon...

http://inmemoriamonline.net/List_AA77.html

 

[IdahoMom]

yes, you're right...it was flight 77; the one at the Pentagon...

http://inmemoriamonline.net/List_AA77.html

I fixed the boo-boo in my post, and made it the Pentagon. :blushing:

Thanks for the link. I thought there was more than one boy going on the National Geographic trip.

 

[IdahoMom]

More about those travelling on the National Geographic trip:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/09/0912_disasterngs.html

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They were all killed along with the other passengers of American Airlines Flight 77 after it was hijacked and crashed into the Pentagon at about 9:45 Tuesday morning.


Teacher James Debeuneure and student Rodney Dickens were representing Ketcham Elementary School; teacher Sarah Clark and student Asia Cottom were from Backus Middle School; and teacher Hilda Taylor and student Bernard Brown were from Leckie Elementary School. All the students were 11-year-old sixth graders.


They had been selected to participate in a program at the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a Society-funded marine research project known as Sustainable Seas Expeditions.

"Through our educational outreach program, Ann and Joe were going to make geography and the environment come alive for these committed, talented teachers and their star students by putting them into the field with scientists and researchers," said John Fahey Jr., the Society's president and CEO.

"The D.C. School District has lost six extraordinary people, and we at the Society have lost two treasured colleagues," he added.

 

[dark_shadows]

There are so many sad, tragic stories to be told (I personally think they should be told over and over again), but one of the stories that really gets me is the young kids that had earned a reward trip through National Geographic for scholastic achievement. If my memory serves me right, they were flying for the first time and I don't think their parents were with them , just chaperones. They were the plane that hit the Pentagon.

Hi IdahoMom,
I am glad that you know about the children with the National Geographic trip.
They are often overlooked.
My mother makes jewlery and asked me who I wanted on my rememberance bracelet.My sister works in Manhattan and was there that day.Thank God she was not hurt.Anyway I picked Rodney Dickens as the one on my bracelet.I first heard about Rodney from an article in Ebony magazine a few months after the attack.It had his school picture in it.I had my mother put Rodney's picture in the bracelet.
I read more and more about Rodney.I found out that it was the first time that the boys had been separated from thier family.Also the first time flying as you said.Also things that you did not hear about;
I also learned through reading about Rodney that his friend Bernard was afraid of flying and spoke to his father about it.His father told him not to be afraid of dying.I also learned that Bernards father worked at the Pentagon and was not there that day because he took the day off to golf.........

 

[IdahoMom]

Hi IdahoMom,
I am glad that you know about the children with the National Geographic trip.
They are often overlooked.
My mother makes jewlery and asked me who I wanted on my rememberance bracelet.My sister works in Manhattan and was there that day.Thank God she was not hurt.Anyway I picked Rodney Dickens as the one on my bracelet.I first heard about Rodney from an article in Ebony magazine a few months after the attack.It had his school picture in it.I had my mother put Rodney's picture in the bracelet.
I read more and more about Rodney.I found out that it was the first time that the boys had been separated from thier family.Also the first time flying as you said.Also things that you did not hear about;
I also learned through reading about Rodney that his friend Bernard was afraid of flying and spoke to his father about it.His father told him not to be afraid of dying.I also learned that Bernards father worked at the Pentagon and was not there that day because he took the day off to golf.........

Bless your heart! Your post gave me goosebumps. I cannot get the image of those sweet boys out of my mind...and the fear they felt, and the fact they were separated from their parents when they died. (I guess I should say MURDERED ) Thanks for the info about Rodney. I think I'll try to find more about the other innocent children killed on that flight. I'll post it later.

Is your Mom still making the remembrance bracelets?

Have a good day, Dark Shadows.

 

[dark_shadows]

Bless your heart! Your post gave me goosebumps. I cannot get the image of those sweet boys out of my mind...and the fear they felt, and the fact they were separated from their parents when they died. (I guess I should say MURDERED ) Thanks for the info about Rodney. I think I'll try to find more about the other innocent children killed on that flight. I'll post it later.

Is your Mom still making the remembrance bracelets?

Have a good day, Dark Shadows.

Hi IdahoMom,
Thank-you so much for your post.
I still get sick to my stomach thinking about the terror that they went through.
Yes my mother makes jewlery still.They are gold bracelets with a round locket in the center.Rodney's picture is inside.Rodney's first name is on one side of the locket and his last name is on the other side.She also made another bracelet for me with red white and blue beads with Rodney's photo also.
I have a folder in my favorites that I have on Rodney,I will post the story about Benard with it for you.

Here is the story about Benard's father talking about death and his mother speaks about his father not working at the pentagon that day.
It is from 2001;
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25771

 

[IdahoMom]

Hi IdahoMom,
Thank-you so much for your post.
I still get sick to my stomach thinking about the terror that they went through.
Yes my mother makes jewlery still.They are gold bracelets with a round locket in the center.Rodney's picture is inside.Rodney's first name is on one side of the locket and his last name is on the other side.She also made another bracelet for me with red white and blue beads with Rodney's photo also.
I have a folder in my favorites that I have on Rodney,I will post the story about Benard with it for you.

Here is the story about Benard's father talking about death and his mother speaks about his father not working at the pentagon that day.
It is from 2001;
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25771

Thank YOU! Can you post a pic of a bracelet for me? Pretty please?
Thanks for honoring that sweet boy's memory the way you have.
Maybe we should start 4 threads, each with a different 9-11 flight, and let people pick a victim and post a little bio and pic? I think that would be a nice tribute...Dark, what do you (and everyone else) think?

I am going to wait to read your link, because I am waiting on a business call and I have to be composed! Again, thanks for your thoughtfulness! :blowkiss: :blowkiss: :blowkiss:

 

[dark_shadows]

Thank YOU! Can you post a pic of a bracelet for me? Pretty please?
Thanks for honoring that sweet boy's memory the way you have.
Maybe we should start 4 threads, each with a different 9-11 flight, and let people pick a victim and post a little bio and pic? I think that would be a nice tribute...Dark, what do you (and everyone else) think?

I am going to wait to read your link, because I am waiting on a business call and I have to be composed! Again, thanks for your thoughtfulness! :blowkiss: :blowkiss: :blowkiss:

Here are pictures of the beaded one for you IdahoMom;

 

[IdahoMom]

Here are pictures of the beaded one for you IdahoMom;

That's so sweet of you to post those! Thanks!

Maybe you should set up a little online store! (hint-hint)

Those bracelets are very nice and should sell very easily! The picture of Rodney breaks my heart, though.

 

[dark_shadows]

That's so sweet of you to post those! Thanks!

Maybe you should set up a little online store! (hint-hint)

Those bracelets are very nice and should sell very easily! The picture of Rodney breaks my heart, though.

IdahoMom,
Thanks for looking at those pictures so quick.I positioned both different with the note in it for you.
It is a great idea that you have for each of us to post different people.Can we do that?It breaks my heart each time I look at Rodney,even years after.I think about his terror without his family.I know that he was with friends,but I just cannot fathom what he was thinking prior to the crash.I also think of Benard and what he discussed with his father.
My mother made several bracelets for my family.She has never sold any of the rememberance bracelets.Rodney's mother works for Ketchum school (Rodney's siblings still attend that school)and I attempted to contact her about the photo of Rodney on my bracelet.I never heard anything back when I left a message with the school.I wanted her to know that people do know about her son and that he will not be forgotten.Of course this was a few months after her son's death.I would not want to talk to anyone either if that was my son.
My mother only made the rememberance bracelets for our family.She has sold other items,but not those.
She does stained glass and has done that for years.She sold alot of stained glass in Princeton by where we used to live in Jersey.
She will not sell the rememberance bracelets,but if you would like one made IdahoMom,I will ask her to do one for you.Just let me know who you want.

 

[BillyGoatGruff]

My memory could be faulty on this one, but I remember them evacuating all the train stations, and stopping service.

ETA: Before the towers collasped.

People were killed in the train tunnels and on the platforms during the FIRST WTC bombing, which happens years before 9/11. That's what I was discussing.

 

[dark_shadows]

People were killed in the train tunnels and on the platforms during the FIRST WTC bombing, which happens years before 9/11. That's what I was discussing.

6 people were killed in the 1993 bombing here is the article;
February 26, 1993.
Four of the six people killed in the attack worked for the World Trade Center's owner, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. Most of the victims were having lunch in their basement office, adjacent to the parking garage where terrorists parked their explosives-laden van.

Bob Kirkpatrick, 61, Steven Knapp, 47, and Bill Macko, 57, were mechanical supervisors for the transportation agency. Monica Rodriguez Smith was Macko's secretary. All were killed in the bombing.

The fifth and sixth victims were Wilfred Mercado, 37, who worked for the Windows on the World restaurant atop the North Tower and was checking in food deliveries in the basement, and John DiGiovanni, 45, a dental salesman who was in the parking garage when the bomb exploded.

Another thousand people suffered injuries. It took 11 hours to evacuate some 50,000 people from the complex.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast/02/26/wtc.bombing/

 

[PrayersForMaura]

Here's a pretty comprehensive site of 9/11 transcripts, audio, etc.

http://911digitalarchive.org/

 

[indigomood]

LOS ANGELES - A television movie about one of the doomed Sept. 11 airplanes was A&E's most-watched program ever, a sign that audiences may be ready for a coming spate of movie and TV projects dramatizing the terrorism of five years ago.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060201/ap_en_tv/tv9_11_movie