GUILTY AR - Beverly Carter, 49, Little Rock, 25 Sep 2014 - #10

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  • #521
I did a quick Internet search. Most of the comments were from earlier posts on this site. Posters wrote that arial photos show that the area behind the plant (where she was reported to have been found) appeared to be the washout area.
 
  • #522
I did a quick Internet search. Most of the comments were from earlier posts on this site. Posters wrote that arial photos show that the area behind the plant (where she was reported to have been found) appeared to be the washout area.

So being buried in a washout area would be considered a shallow grave, right?
And I made the comment about him him covering her with gravel instead of dirt.
I used the word "dump" but I wasn't meaning a truckload. If you have use of
a dump truck and your at a concrete plant and gravel is on the yard.......i'm
just thinking out loud. ( but yes it could have very well been a washout area)

Maybe when CL picked him up at the hospital and they both knew that LE had lost
track of him, CL drove them to the concrete plant. I think you mentioned that
they were fighting on Friday night. If so, I don't think she went to the hospital
because she was concerned about him. I think she picked him up because she
knew they had unfinished business.

Furthermore, she could have very well passed away on the first day. In my original
reply, I was referring to when I thought he found her dead. But another scenerio
would be that he told CL on Friday night what had happened to Beverly and that is what caused their fight. AL has said all along it was an accident. CL probably
went into a rage at him for being so stupid. Then she packed her bag and went
to spend the night with her ex.

I am so sorry. As I am typing one idea my mind starts thinking of second
idea and both ideas start running together on my post. So I try to
read more that I post.
 
  • #523
Somewhere in the threads, VI #1 stated that Crystal spent the weekend with her boyfriend in Benton. Unsure at this time of exact link so jmho for now.

Det Jeffery Allison states in this ss of his statement in the civil case against PCSO, that he took Arron Lewis to Cabot and Benton during interrogation looking for Beverly det allison took al to cabot and benton.JPG

In this comment from Arkansas Dem Gaz, it shows as that LEO and Pros believe that Beverly died not of premeditated but in the course of her Kidnapping :

Johnson in court said that investigators developed Lowery and Lewis as suspects after finding records showing communication between Carter's phone and Lowery's. Lewis was followed and he had in his possession Carter's phone, Johnson said.

He said that "further investigation" of the cellphone records showed "it was apparent that Crystal Lowery participated in the plan and kidnapping of Ms. Beverly Carter, which resulted in her death" Lowery was then asked whether Johnson's description of the case was true. She acknowledged it was.
http://www.arkansasonline.com/.../woman-gets-30-years.../
 
  • #524
I like many here, go back and forth. Arron was use to "being on the run" so I feel sure he could spot LEO following him pretty quick, especially since he knew he had done something worthy of being under surveillance.

From one of our VI's, she stated that Crystal knew "Sunday" that Beverly was dead.

On the dump truck, JMHO, I am thinking that it possibly wasn't noticed missing until LEO contacted ARGO in ref to it being Arron last employer... I can't get over Arron and the dump truck being less than 5 miles from the same hospital he escaped from on Sunday. That is what keeps me going back and forth that he didn't leave that area from Sunday afternoon until caught Monday morning. I will have to look in my stuff to see what time they started surveillance but it wasn't real early, and he wrecked between 9 and 10 am Sunday. I wondering if Crystal went to check on her and that's how she knew Sunday she was dead. jmho
 
  • #525
He probably told CL it would be easy, and they could get enough money to make it worth it. She was probably really angry that they went through all of that, and got nothing. She probably did think he was so stupid for getting them involved in it to begin with. I wonder if Beverly recognized one or both of them, and they were arguing over what they were going to have to do at that point....

It baffles me that they were still in possession of the cell phone at the time of the accident. I wonder if it was because she was still alive, or if they planned to pretend she was, and to still try to collect a ransom. I realize Arron was a thief and a cell phone would be difficult for him to just throw away, since they have value. It just seems like even for him, it would seem like a hot potato if it belonged to the deceased person he and his wife kidnapped.

Platespinner, no worries. I am the worst about typing while thinking of various things. Feel free to ask for clarification anytime. I tend to jumble my thoughts. :)


Seems like I remember the cell phones pinging near a construction trailer CC Sr was affiliated with. If AL had interaction with his company while working for Argos, I wonder if that was to be the drop off location. Just another random thought.
 
  • #526
He could have used gravel. I haven't actually seen a washout area, but from the pictures, it appears there is enough slush in them to potentially not have to add gravel or anything. They were probably in a hurry to get out of there. If it were really an accident, they planned a place to hide her initially. Burying would have to be an afterthought, and at a time when they were panicking, instead of thinking more clearly (during the planning process).

CL truly does look rough in her mugshot. Then again, I am sure there was little primping time allowed, and they don't do vanity photo shopping for prisoners.

Maybe Argos reported the truck missing, a break in at the office, or a disturbed area at the site, and LEO linked it to Arron. Not sure if it was due to a report to them, since it seems they searched more than one Argos plant. He could have been to multiple sites, though. Argos could have reported it, or the phones could have pinged in those locations.

Wonder if we will ever know all the details.
 
  • #527
My sentiments exactly.

I have to add that her greed is probably equal to his. He was just her outlet to help provide the motivation to go as far as they did to get something they wanted.

Even though CL doesn't have the record AL does, it doesn't mean she doesn't have the history. It sounds like she did a lot of things to make money. Light is just being shed on some of those things. Imagine the things that haven't come out. She could either be smarter than him, or just lucky enough to not have been caught in the past. Amazing how quickly after they met, where they ended up. When two evil people put their heads together.....
 
  • #528
I think I recall reading he was close to his house when he got stuck.

I always go back to my initial thought that she passed away the first day. The thought crossed my mind that he knew he was under surveillance, and was scared to go back to wherever she was. Maybe he was trying to lose them, so he could get back to her. If she were still alive, I don't understand why Crystal left to stay with her ex-boyfriend prior to that, though. She and Arron had to have had a big fight. If she were just trying to have an alibi, Arron doesn't seem like the type to be ok with her spending the weekend with an ex.

Personally, I dont necessarily believe the ex-boyfriend thing. I think that was thrown at us to derail some good sleuthing momentum. I think it was thrown in as a way to make Crystal appear innocent. I think it was a fabricated part of the timeline. We questioned then that it was very odd for her to go to an ex-boyfriend while she is still married instead of going to a friend's house. Especially since she reportedly had so many close, wonderful and supportive female friends. That's just my opinion.
 
  • #529
It appears that Arron Lewis can proceed with his First Amendment Claim in regards to his Legal mail being opened, read and confiscated.
DefendantSteve Outlaw
Deputy Warden, Tucker MSU
order july 6 2015 AL can proceed with 1st amendment claim.JPG

7/10/2015 23 INITIAL SCHEDULING ORDER: Any failure-to-exhaust defense must be raised by motion for summary judgment no later than 8/24/2015; discovery deadline is 12/7/2015; summary judgment motions on the merits due no later than 12/21/2015. Signed by Magistrate Judge Beth Deere on 7/10/2015. (csf) (Entered: 07/10/2015)

ETA: His civil suit against PCSO is moving along also, Motion Summary Judgment filed and Arron Lewis reply... July 14 Arron filed Motion for Evidentiary Hearing
 
  • #530
It appears that Arron Lewis can proceed with his First Amendment Claim in regards to his Legal mail being opened, read and confiscated.
DefendantSteve Outlaw
Deputy Warden, Tucker MSU
View attachment 78359

7/10/2015 23 INITIAL SCHEDULING ORDER: Any failure-to-exhaust defense must be raised by motion for summary judgment no later than 8/24/2015; discovery deadline is 12/7/2015; summary judgment motions on the merits due no later than 12/21/2015. Signed by Magistrate Judge Beth Deere on 7/10/2015. (csf) (Entered: 07/10/2015)

ETA: His civil suit against PCSO is moving along also, Motion Summary Judgment filed and Arron Lewis reply... July 14 Arron filed Motion for Evidentiary Hearing

Thank you, arkansasmimi for updating us.
 
  • #531
Thank you, arkansasmimi for updating us.

Your very welcome! I like research and factual information from documents and from the source, which so far we have very limited. Its a better starting place for me.... It is too easy going down rabbit holes chasing guru gossip or hearsay retold over and over then believed as fact... That's why I like WS, stick to what is what, with back up, unless you have been verified by admin as a true insider. Even then as with some of the info in the documents, you have the choice to believe or not, but the documents have been entered into the official case. In the Statement of Facts docs for instance, lots of little nuggets of interesting info... jmho
 
  • #532
Do we know if AL prevails in these suits, other than prosecution being required to suppress the information at trial, can it effect the prosecution of his case, as a whole? I don't know the law regarding reading the mail of a prisoner. It seems like mail to an attorney would be privileged. The fact that it wasn't dismissed seems to support that his claim could have merit. Just wondering if the end result of this, if in his favor would be monetary, to suppress information, or to throw out the entire charge.
 
  • #533
It appears that Arron Lewis can proceed with his First Amendment Claim in regards to his Legal mail being opened, read and confiscated.
DefendantSteve Outlaw
Deputy Warden, Tucker MSU
View attachment 78359

7/10/201523 INITIAL SCHEDULING ORDER: Any failure-to-exhaust defense must be raised by motion for summary judgment no later than 8/24/2015; discovery deadline is 12/7/2015; summary judgment motions on the merits due no later than 12/21/2015. Signed by Magistrate Judge Beth Deere on 7/10/2015. (csf) (Entered: 07/10/2015)

ETA: His civil suit against PCSO is moving along also, Motion Summary Judgment filed and Arron Lewis reply... July 14 Arron filed Motion for Evidentiary Hearing

Thank you for keeping up with the documents filed in this case. I appreciate you!
 
  • #534
It's hard to tell "when" or "how" Crystal Lowery allegedly found out... so much confusion and conflicting info .. same day first in morning, second in afternoon...
NJ 11/2/2014 748am #883
The theft by receiving was charged on day they before they arrested him, while they were still looking for him on the manhunt. They hauled both she and her daughter down to Sheriff station. with her daughter screaming and terrified. Took their dogs to pound even though she begged them to allow her to call a friend to get them or to put them in back yard. The pound would not give her daughter's dog back. Said LE relinquished the dogs to them and they adopted them out. The daughter was crushed. CL cooperated but they kept telling her she knew something. They kept her there 8 hours. That is day they found the phone. She had no idea it was in her house. She had been gone all weekend. She has gone back to the Sheriff office freely since that time asking them for her phone (they took her personal phone and she gave them the password). They kept telling her they were still investigating.

What I think and I could be totally wrong is that AL carried BC phone with him everywhere he went that Thur night and then brought it home. Maybe they used cell phone tower info to find her body and the phone at AL house. He was a suspect before he wrecked his car that Sunday morning when he was being followed by LE. CL was not even home when that happened. She stayed the night away. She did go to the hospital when he called her. She was clueless what was happening at that time (meaning AL was being investigated for BC disappearance). She found out like the rest of us on the news. When she went to hospital he didn't tell her. But apparently AL knew to be paranoid because he was trying to lose LE tail when he wrecked his car. He was being followed by LE and tried to speed up to lose them. At that point CL was still in dark and going on with her life as usual. That is why I don't think she knew anything. That and my observations of her both during that time and since.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php...

NJ 11/2/2012 257pm #916
All I know about the hospital is that she was called there by AL. When she got there police started questioning her about where he was going and she told them probably home. They told her he was going in opposite direction of home. She had no idea where he was going since she had spent night elsewhere. While she was being interviewed by police AL slipped out back door or whatever happened and left. That is how she found out he was a suspect at that same time. I think police told her at the hospital. It was my understanding that the warrant came and then AL was gone. That is the first CL knew he was being watched or about him being a suspect.

Do you know which plant the dump truck was stolen from @savvyrose? I thought I read you said Saline Co. Would that be Benton?
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.
 
  • #535
Going back over Arron Lewis orig/amended complaint filed against PCSO...
Arron arrived at PCSO at 10 am Monday Sept 29 (from documents listed as exhibits, file uploaded prior)

Crystal was arrested at ATM Monday Sept 29 and released late that night around 9pm iirc, and called dtr from unknown number on the from the replaced cell of Crystal it is presumed.(from VI NJ and VI Butler321)

According to this excerpt page 8/12 orig & amended, and from Interrogatories from Det Jeffery Allison, Arron told him that Beverly was either in Benton or Cabot...

Also TM was brought to the PCSO (pg 16 of the 98 pg doc I prev uploaded) Det Allison stated TM arrived at 721pm Monday Sept 29. So the whole co conspirator talk had already happened by the time of Arron's perp walk... and per Doc Holladay at the press conf Sept 30 iirc he was there few hours...

Per Arron complaint, he was told his wife was being questioned... then Det Allison comes back and says going for a little ride. (3 counties would most likely be Saline where Benton is, Pulaski where he was incarcerated at Jail and Lonoke, right on the line of the location Beverly remains found. He is returned and shortly afterwards (we dont know when he left/got back) but Beverly was found around Midnight would be Tues Sept 30th now... Arron was booked in at 12:32am. (He had been there since 10am Monday, so roughly 14 hrs and 32 min). I wonder where Crystal went after she was released Monday night? I feel sure LEO was following her. Also what did she do and where did she go Sunday after (according to 2 VI) being questioned on Sunday.

So AL, CL and TM all potentially leave around the same time... and some time in the timeframe AL arrives back/Beverly is located, then Arron is booked.... Sheriff said they didn't think TM had anything to do with this. I have the feeling Arron is going to say otherwise, by the questions in his interrogatories. Awesome police work. KNOWING NOW, that Crystal plead GUILTY, I am more curious than ever where she was and what she did... and her whole timeline figuring out lol
 
  • #536
oops forgot to add ss of what I was talking about where Arron says Crystal was at the PCSO pg 8/12 Arrons orig complaint filed 11/2/2014 and amended 12/2/2014 AL orig complaint nov 30  amended 12 3 pages 8 of 12.JPG
 
  • #537
I must have missed the interrogatories. Will someone please let me know where I can find them?
 
  • #538
It makes one curious as to why he chose to mention TM. I wondered if he was trying to tip CL off that LEO had pics and text messages, and maybe that they were on to her. She would have known that TM wasn't the co-defendant he was truly referring to. He knew that she would be watching the news report, and maybe that was his only way to communicate to her what was going on.
 
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